Backup / clone program with offline installer that runs on Vista

[Mark Kaine]

I'm going to try resurrecting an old amd64 / Vista PC, and if it works I want to backup / clone the hard drive so I can swap it for a newer one. But the PC is obviously offline so I can't use one of those installers that first download everything, I need an offline installer therfore. 

 

TIA

[SupaKomputa]

you don't need that pc to clone it, you can just plug the hdd on your new pc and clone there.

[Mark Kaine]

3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

you don't need that pc to clone it, you can just plug the hdd on your new pc and clone there.

oh yeah I could maybe do this, but you haven't seen the cables for in my *super cute* inwin 301 case... it would take hours... much better option would be cloning the drive over usb (or else) with the pc it's currently in (Athlon 64)

 

@Slayerking92 what's so funny!?  OwO 

[Mark Kaine]

19 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

you don't need that pc to clone it, you can just plug the hdd on your new pc and clone there.

Ok, so that is really not an option I don't think a 20yo old rusty hard-drive is going to touch my my PC... 

 

But would clonezilla work? I think it should... gonna burn a CD on my laptop then boot this on the Athlon PC... how very archaic, but maybe appropriate for such an old computer... ~

 

 

[SupaKomputa]

2 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Ok, so that is really not an option I don't think a 20yo old rusty hard-drive is going to touch my my PC... 

Why? 20 year old? Probably it is still using a PATA port.

I still have some PATA drives which refuse to die, good for some backup.

If it work, it work. Won't have any effect on your current PC.

 

You can try clonezilla usb, boot it and do the cloning there.

Oh yeah, probably you have to check if it has a SATA port.

[Mark Kaine]

12 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Why? 20 year old? Probably it is still using a PATA port.

I still have some PATA drives which refuse to die, good for some backup.

If it work, it work. Won't have any effect on your current PC.

 

You can try clonezilla usb, boot it and do the cloning there.

Oh yeah, probably you have to check if it has a SATA port.

oh... I'm pretty sure it has sata... I just want to clone the drive to a ssd and then swap it out - I can test the old drive later, if it's ok I can indeed use it as a second drive I'm really just concerned about the cloning software, I usually use macrium but I'm pretty sure that needs internet connection to install - although I can just try that out, I am just looking for an alternative, clonezilla seems to be ok but not too user friendly... 

 

 

Looks like sata to me? 

Spoiler

 

[SupaKomputa]

afaik macrium doesn't need internet for installation, i can be wrong, never done it without internet.

just download it on the ryzen machine and bring it with usb.

if it doesnt work well you have to learn clonezilla.

[Archer42]

3 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

But would clonezilla work? I think it should... gonna burn a CD on my laptop then boot this on the Athlon PC... how very archaic, but maybe appropriate for such an old computer... ~

I've used clonezilla to clone win98 on p3 with 384MB of ram, 1.2GB laptop ide hard drive and usb1. Your hardware is really new compared to that. So yes, it'll work. And you can use any storage from something usb to network, since you are booting modern os there will be no issues with that.

And yes, i had to use cd-rw, but yours should boot from usb flash drive just fine.

The only thing - when using on really old hardware might be a good idea to disable compression, as it can be very slow.

 

2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

clonezilla seems to be ok but not too user friendly

More user friendly than many graphical tools i'd say. You answer few simple questions and it works. No need to navigate a bunch of menus or something.

When you are trying to do something which does not fit default settings it might get complicated though...