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Help me Push my CPU to the limit (currently trying to overclock it) [Ryzen 3 1200]

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7 minutes ago, podkall said:

Welp, I guess the transistors can't increase their speed forever. Temps were low, no currents nothing went overboard, not even by single digits.

Cores weren't even drawing full 1.325V if the sensors show the actual values.

 

But I mean, if I could finnish bench at 4,1Gzhz than playing some games that need powerful CPU on 4Ghz shouldn't hurt the CPU right?

Like running stock speed, but OCing if I for example wanna play Warzone.

If it works it works - there's different degrees of stability and everyone has their own perspective on that.

 

For me an hour of ASUS Realbench and no crashes in the stuff I do is enough, for others its 24 hour P95 stress test.

So I'm amateur at overclocking and were able to achieve noticable performance increase.

Numbers: My Ryzen 3 1200 at stock boosts to 3,5Ghz in Ryzen Master it's base voltage is 1,1875V

OC:

I was able to ramp it up to 4Ghz with 1,875V - stable

Than I got it to 4,1Ghz which was also theoredicaly stable with same voltage.

 

After setting numbers to 4,2Ghz PC blackscreened after starting benchmark, increasing voltage to 1,3V my PC was able to survive few seconds in benchmark before blackscreening.

I believe voltages were okay on sensors. (I also reduced clock to 4,175Ghz)

 

Should I just increase it all the way to 1,325V?  @Mister Woof

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Just now, AlwaysFSX said:

Please tell me this is a typo

Oh in my world stable is being able to Cinebench R23 for 30minutes straight and than use the PC for the rest of the day playing games which some put some work on the CPU, I played little bit of Warzone, than about hour of Apex Legends and than some Leauge..

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5 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Please tell me this is a typo

from reading the rest of the post it seems 1.18?

 

Anyhow, I would set it 1.3v and try for 3.8ghz and leave it at that. I don't think 4ghz is really realistic for 1st gen lower gen parts.

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Just now, Mister Woof said:

from reading the rest of the post it seems 1.18?

 

Anyhow, I would set it 1.3v and try for 3.8ghz and leave it at that. I don't think 4ghz is really realistic for 1st gen lower gen parts.

Try for 3,8Ghz? Why, if my CPU can clock at 4Ghz? Or does increasing voltage mean difference in all clocks?

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Just now, podkall said:

Try for 3,8Ghz? Why, if my CPU can clock at 4Ghz? Or does increasing voltage mean difference in all clocks?

First gen tends to hit a wall around 4-4.1ghz in the best samples.

 

Lower end chips are usually chips that couldn't make it as higher end chips, so the lower you go in the stack the lower your chances are for higher overclocks.

 

So I would say that on a Ryzen 3 1200, 3.8ghz is pretty reasonable. 

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Just now, Mister Woof said:

First gen tends to hit a wall around 4-4.1ghz in the best samples.

 

Lower end chips are usually chips that couldn't make it as higher end chips, so the lower you go in the stack the lower your chances are for higher overclocks.

 

So I would say that on a Ryzen 3 1200, 3.8ghz is pretty reasonable. 

So you say I shoudln't try 1.325V on 4,2 one last time and call it quits if it blackscreens?

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Just now, podkall said:

So you say I shoudln't try 1.325V on 4,2 one last time and call it quits if it blackscreens?

i think 4.2ghz is not going to be that realistic, but you can try. Again, always chance of damage so be warned.

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Just now, Mister Woof said:

i think 4.2ghz is not going to be that realistic, but you can try. Again, always chance of damage so be warned.

My eyes not gonna exit the sensors, also I instantly click restart button after my pc blackscreens to reset CPU values but keep fans spinning

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15 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

i think 4.2ghz is not going to be that realistic, but you can try. Again, always chance of damage so be warned.

Welp, I guess the transistors can't increase their speed forever. Temps were low, no currents nothing went overboard, not even by single digits.

Cores weren't even drawing full 1.325V if the sensors show the actual values.

 

But I mean, if I could finnish bench at 4,1Gzhz than playing some games that need powerful CPU on 4Ghz shouldn't hurt the CPU right?

Like running stock speed, but OCing if I for example wanna play Warzone.

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7 minutes ago, podkall said:

Welp, I guess the transistors can't increase their speed forever. Temps were low, no currents nothing went overboard, not even by single digits.

Cores weren't even drawing full 1.325V if the sensors show the actual values.

 

But I mean, if I could finnish bench at 4,1Gzhz than playing some games that need powerful CPU on 4Ghz shouldn't hurt the CPU right?

Like running stock speed, but OCing if I for example wanna play Warzone.

If it works it works - there's different degrees of stability and everyone has their own perspective on that.

 

For me an hour of ASUS Realbench and no crashes in the stuff I do is enough, for others its 24 hour P95 stress test.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

If it works it works - there's different degrees of stability and everyone has their own perspective on that.

 

For me an hour of ASUS Realbench and no crashes in the stuff I do is enough, for others its 24 hour P95 stress test.

I have ASUS Realbench so I could next time I overclock my CPU test the stability of the 4Ghz for at least that hour...

 

Thanks for help, I'm glad I didn't go ham and went: "oh well if it isn't clocking it must need more food, here let me give you more voltage"

"well now it's weird it should be stable now just a little more"

"I don't think the red in my pc is the red LEDs from fans but an actual fire, oh no"

"I wonder if it puts itself out if I increase the clock speed"

 

😄

 

Thanks again.

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Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

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