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Whats the better deal? 2 PCs

Budget (including currency): 1400

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Rust, Escape From Tarkov

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 


I have a budget of around $1200-$1300 for a pc and around $550 for dual monitors. 
I found a listing on Offerup for a prebuilt alienware r9 with 2080 super 32gb ram i7 9700 not sure what storage but its only $1200 + 2x 1440p 144hz 27 inch monitors would be $1750
I the other pc on craigslist. Its an ibuypower with asus rtx 2080 16gb ram and an i7 9700k w/ 1tb ssd. He said he would add a 34in alienware monitor all for $1700 

what do i go for? :( 

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i assume you don't see building your own pc as an option?

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I mean I wouldn't mind building one but with current prices I feel like I'm getting a better deal on these ones. 

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Not the best deals for sure. Do you mind building your own system?

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1 minute ago, ki8aras said:

i assume you don't see building your own pc as an option?

What would you recommend if I were to build one for around $1400

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Just now, jaslion said:

Not the best deals for sure. Do you mind building your own system?

What would be a good build for $1400

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1 minute ago, Jays__ said:

What would be a good build for $1400

Problem is that a 3070 is extremly hard to get now. The main issue with these systems is the cpu being pretty underwhelming since it's just a flat 8core.

 

That and the alienware is known to use a blower 2080 which thermal throttles pretty hard. The Ibuypower rig is well a bit of a wildcard without known the other specs.

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Just now, jaslion said:

Problem is that a 3070 is extremly hard to get now. The main issue with these systems is the cpu being pretty underwhelming since it's just a flat 8core.

 

That and the alienware is known to use a blower 2080 which thermal throttles pretty hard. The Ibuypower rig is well a bit of a wildcard without known the other specs.

[Gaming RDY ELIBG202] Intel i7 9700K, ASUS Z390 Prime-P Motherboard, ASUS RTX 2080 Video Card, XPG 16GB (8GBx2) RGB DDR4-3200 Memory, 1TB SSD, RGB Liquid Cooler

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6 minutes ago, Jays__ said:

What would be a good build for $1400

used 1080 ti with this:

The 9700K doesn't offer a good upgrade path

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

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5 minutes ago, Jays__ said:

What would be a good build for $1400

if you're in a hurry to get a system up and running then just buy one of the systems you found

if you're willing to wait a couple of months then something like this would perform better

(feel free to edit my suggested parts list guys im not a god at building pcs)

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1 minute ago, ki8aras said:

if you're in a hurry to get a system up and running then just buy one of the systems you found

if you're willing to wait a couple of months then something like this would perform better

(feel free to edit my suggested parts list guys im not a god at building pcs)

i found this build for $1500 but its a little more then I would like to pay.

 

*Graphics card - Zotac Geforce 3070 Twin edge OC white edition

*CPU - Intel Core i7-7700K

*CPU COOLER - Kraken Z63 W/ LED screen

*Motherboard - MSI Z270 SLI PLUS

*Ram - CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4

*PSU - EVGA 600 Gold Power Supply

*Case - NZXT H510

*memory - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB

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Just now, Jays__ said:

i found this build for $1500 but its a little more then I would like to pay.

 

*Graphics card - Zotac Geforce 3070 Twin edge OC white edition

*CPU - Intel Core i7-7700K

*CPU COOLER - Kraken Z63 W/ LED screen

*Motherboard - MSI Z270 SLI PLUS

*Ram - CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4

*PSU - EVGA 600 Gold Power Supply

*Case - NZXT H510

*memory - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB

nah man the 7700k only has 4 cores

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5 minutes ago, Jays__ said:

[Gaming RDY ELIBG202] Intel i7 9700K, ASUS Z390 Prime-P Motherboard, ASUS RTX 2080 Video Card, XPG 16GB (8GBx2) RGB DDR4-3200 Memory, 1TB SSD, RGB Liquid Cooler

Still kinda meh with the 9700k. What psu is it? Sometimes they cheap out on it which isn't good.

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5 minutes ago, ki8aras said:

if you're in a hurry to get a system up and running then just buy one of the systems you found

if you're willing to wait a couple of months then something like this would perform better

(feel free to edit my suggested parts list guys im not a god at building pcs)

I would exchange the cpu and cpu cooler for a 10400f, and get a 3080, since OP is using this to game.

 

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 
My build:
CPU: 10700k Oc'd to 5.0 ghz                            GPU: RTX 3070 ventus 2x
Motherboard: Asus z490-v                                Cooler: Deepcool castle ex 120mm
Ram: Team tforce delta 32gb 3200mhz cl16     Case: Phanteks p418r (p360a ripoff) 
PSU: Apevia Prestige 800w

Notes:
Spoiler

To me the 10700k seems pretty underrated. It's a very solid cpu. at 5.0ghz it draws 175-185w under full load. the Asus z490-v is a sh*t teir motherboard, I wouldn't recommend it for anything past a 10600k for light oc's only. Tforce ram is pretty but cpu cooler clearance can be an issue on them, so beware. the RTX 3070 is obviously a great card, but the ventus 2x is just horrible. Don't buy it, not now, not ever. It's flimsy af, you can't increase the stock power limit, the cooler is worse than the one on the 3070FE. If it's a choice between this and nothing, choose nothing. The deepcool castle ex 120mm isn't really on sale outside of prebuilts, but it's a nice pretty cooler, gets my 10700k up to 96c after a prime95 cpu test for 15 minutes. The p418r is basically what it looks like. P360a, slap a few cyberpowerpc logos on it, and you're golden. The Apevia Prestige 800w is bad, but not terrible. Runs respectably quiet and isn't a bomb. More than a lot of PSU's in prebuilts can claim.

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4 minutes ago, Jays__ said:

i found this build for $1500 but its a little more then I would like to pay.

 

*Graphics card - Zotac Geforce 3070 Twin edge OC white edition

*CPU - Intel Core i7-7700K

*CPU COOLER - Kraken Z63 W/ LED screen

*Motherboard - MSI Z270 SLI PLUS

*Ram - CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4

*PSU - EVGA 600 Gold Power Supply

*Case - NZXT H510

*memory - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB

Not very great. At normal prices, that build would be worth under 1000 USD. Right now is a pretty bad time to buy a pc/components, especially graphics cards, because there's a huge shortages for basically all cards, and there's ginormous demand, for various reasons. 

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 
My build:
CPU: 10700k Oc'd to 5.0 ghz                            GPU: RTX 3070 ventus 2x
Motherboard: Asus z490-v                                Cooler: Deepcool castle ex 120mm
Ram: Team tforce delta 32gb 3200mhz cl16     Case: Phanteks p418r (p360a ripoff) 
PSU: Apevia Prestige 800w

Notes:
Spoiler

To me the 10700k seems pretty underrated. It's a very solid cpu. at 5.0ghz it draws 175-185w under full load. the Asus z490-v is a sh*t teir motherboard, I wouldn't recommend it for anything past a 10600k for light oc's only. Tforce ram is pretty but cpu cooler clearance can be an issue on them, so beware. the RTX 3070 is obviously a great card, but the ventus 2x is just horrible. Don't buy it, not now, not ever. It's flimsy af, you can't increase the stock power limit, the cooler is worse than the one on the 3070FE. If it's a choice between this and nothing, choose nothing. The deepcool castle ex 120mm isn't really on sale outside of prebuilts, but it's a nice pretty cooler, gets my 10700k up to 96c after a prime95 cpu test for 15 minutes. The p418r is basically what it looks like. P360a, slap a few cyberpowerpc logos on it, and you're golden. The Apevia Prestige 800w is bad, but not terrible. Runs respectably quiet and isn't a bomb. More than a lot of PSU's in prebuilts can claim.

Motherboard Tier List                   How many watts do I need?
Best B550 Motherboards             Best Intel Z490 Motherboards

PC Troubleshooting                      You don't need a big PSU

PSU Tier List                                Common pc building mistakes 
PC BUILD Guide! (POV)              How to Overclock your CPU 

 

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1 minute ago, Jays__ said:

i found this build for $1500 but its a little more then I would like to pay.

 

*Graphics card - Zotac Geforce 3070 Twin edge OC white edition

*CPU - Intel Core i7-7700K

*CPU COOLER - Kraken Z63 W/ LED screen

*Motherboard - MSI Z270 SLI PLUS

*Ram - CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4

*PSU - EVGA 600 Gold Power Supply

*Case - NZXT H510

*memory - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB

That is terrible

Only good thing about it is the 3070 everything else is worse.

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Just now, jaslion said:

That is terrible

Only good thing about it is the 3070 everything else is worse.

Not horrible per se, horrible for the price. 

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 
My build:
CPU: 10700k Oc'd to 5.0 ghz                            GPU: RTX 3070 ventus 2x
Motherboard: Asus z490-v                                Cooler: Deepcool castle ex 120mm
Ram: Team tforce delta 32gb 3200mhz cl16     Case: Phanteks p418r (p360a ripoff) 
PSU: Apevia Prestige 800w

Notes:
Spoiler

To me the 10700k seems pretty underrated. It's a very solid cpu. at 5.0ghz it draws 175-185w under full load. the Asus z490-v is a sh*t teir motherboard, I wouldn't recommend it for anything past a 10600k for light oc's only. Tforce ram is pretty but cpu cooler clearance can be an issue on them, so beware. the RTX 3070 is obviously a great card, but the ventus 2x is just horrible. Don't buy it, not now, not ever. It's flimsy af, you can't increase the stock power limit, the cooler is worse than the one on the 3070FE. If it's a choice between this and nothing, choose nothing. The deepcool castle ex 120mm isn't really on sale outside of prebuilts, but it's a nice pretty cooler, gets my 10700k up to 96c after a prime95 cpu test for 15 minutes. The p418r is basically what it looks like. P360a, slap a few cyberpowerpc logos on it, and you're golden. The Apevia Prestige 800w is bad, but not terrible. Runs respectably quiet and isn't a bomb. More than a lot of PSU's in prebuilts can claim.

Motherboard Tier List                   How many watts do I need?
Best B550 Motherboards             Best Intel Z490 Motherboards

PC Troubleshooting                      You don't need a big PSU

PSU Tier List                                Common pc building mistakes 
PC BUILD Guide! (POV)              How to Overclock your CPU 

 

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Just now, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Not horrible per se, horrible for the price. 

Should have added that. Without the 3070 it's like a 450$ pc. With the 3070 it's + 650$ but very imbalanced.

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10 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

I would exchange the cpu and cpu cooler for a 10400f, and get a 3080, since OP is using this to game.

 

would that cpu bottleneck the 3080?

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1 minute ago, Jays__ said:

would that cpu bottleneck the 3080?

No, It wouldn't. 

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 
My build:
CPU: 10700k Oc'd to 5.0 ghz                            GPU: RTX 3070 ventus 2x
Motherboard: Asus z490-v                                Cooler: Deepcool castle ex 120mm
Ram: Team tforce delta 32gb 3200mhz cl16     Case: Phanteks p418r (p360a ripoff) 
PSU: Apevia Prestige 800w

Notes:
Spoiler

To me the 10700k seems pretty underrated. It's a very solid cpu. at 5.0ghz it draws 175-185w under full load. the Asus z490-v is a sh*t teir motherboard, I wouldn't recommend it for anything past a 10600k for light oc's only. Tforce ram is pretty but cpu cooler clearance can be an issue on them, so beware. the RTX 3070 is obviously a great card, but the ventus 2x is just horrible. Don't buy it, not now, not ever. It's flimsy af, you can't increase the stock power limit, the cooler is worse than the one on the 3070FE. If it's a choice between this and nothing, choose nothing. The deepcool castle ex 120mm isn't really on sale outside of prebuilts, but it's a nice pretty cooler, gets my 10700k up to 96c after a prime95 cpu test for 15 minutes. The p418r is basically what it looks like. P360a, slap a few cyberpowerpc logos on it, and you're golden. The Apevia Prestige 800w is bad, but not terrible. Runs respectably quiet and isn't a bomb. More than a lot of PSU's in prebuilts can claim.

Motherboard Tier List                   How many watts do I need?
Best B550 Motherboards             Best Intel Z490 Motherboards

PC Troubleshooting                      You don't need a big PSU

PSU Tier List                                Common pc building mistakes 
PC BUILD Guide! (POV)              How to Overclock your CPU 

 

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hi, those games you play are the same that i play. My specs are above $1400 but then you will know what i use for good performance. rtx 3070, 16x2gb 3200mhz, i7 7700K, b250m bazooka. those are my specs but i dont recommend you buying an i7 7th gen now cuz it will get old soon ( im preparing for an upgrade ) But if you could u can get an I7 9th gen (i7 9700k) this is a very good one but you can go many other ways. for the gpu i recommend you buying maybe an rtx 30xx but if you are on a budget then an 2070super will do perfectly fine (my previous gpu worked perfectly on rust,eft, r6) but i see that u want to play on 1440p so then i was thinking about an rtx 3070/80 maybe. about the ram 16gb or 32 will do both fine!

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($97.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($104.99 @ Lenovo) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card  ($399.00) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($124.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $1250.95
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AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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Cooler is kinda crud and psu is a wildcard and varies from alrighty to bad it seems.

 

It's not a bad system but it also isn't the greatest. But with how the market is right now it's about as good as it gets really.

 

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Depends on the price.

 

What's the make and model of the psu?

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1 hour ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

I would exchange the cpu and cpu cooler for a 10400f, and get a 3080, since OP is using this to game.

 

That board is garbage.

Winter is Coming.

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