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Budget (including currency): 1400

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Rust, Escape From Tarkov

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 


I have a budget of around $1200-$1300 for a pc and around $550 for dual monitors. 
I found a listing on Offerup for a prebuilt alienware r9 with 2080 super 32gb ram i7 9700 not sure what storage but its only $1200 + 2x 1440p 144hz 27 inch monitors would be $1750
I the other pc on craigslist. Its an ibuypower with asus rtx 2080 16gb ram and an i7 9700k w/ 1tb ssd. He said he would add a 34in alienware monitor all for $1700 

what do i go for? :( 

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I mean I wouldn't mind building one but with current prices I feel like I'm getting a better deal on these ones. 

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1 minute ago, ki8aras said:

i assume you don't see building your own pc as an option?

What would you recommend if I were to build one for around $1400

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Just now, jaslion said:

Not the best deals for sure. Do you mind building your own system?

What would be a good build for $1400

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1 minute ago, Jays__ said:

What would be a good build for $1400

Problem is that a 3070 is extremly hard to get now. The main issue with these systems is the cpu being pretty underwhelming since it's just a flat 8core.

 

That and the alienware is known to use a blower 2080 which thermal throttles pretty hard. The Ibuypower rig is well a bit of a wildcard without known the other specs.

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Just now, jaslion said:

Problem is that a 3070 is extremly hard to get now. The main issue with these systems is the cpu being pretty underwhelming since it's just a flat 8core.

 

That and the alienware is known to use a blower 2080 which thermal throttles pretty hard. The Ibuypower rig is well a bit of a wildcard without known the other specs.

[Gaming RDY ELIBG202] Intel i7 9700K, ASUS Z390 Prime-P Motherboard, ASUS RTX 2080 Video Card, XPG 16GB (8GBx2) RGB DDR4-3200 Memory, 1TB SSD, RGB Liquid Cooler

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6 minutes ago, Jays__ said:

What would be a good build for $1400

used 1080 ti with this:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage Mushkin Enhanced Helix-L 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $92.99 @ Newegg
Case Cougar MX331 MESH ATX Mid Tower Case $50.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 700 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $94.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $753.93
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-15 14:20 EST-0500  

The 9700K doesn't offer a good upgrade path

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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5 minutes ago, Jays__ said:

What would be a good build for $1400

if you're in a hurry to get a system up and running then just buy one of the systems you found

if you're willing to wait a couple of months then something like this would perform better

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler $59.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $149.99 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $139.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate IronWolf Pro 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card  
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $140.93 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $674.84
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-15 14:20 EST-0500  

(feel free to edit my suggested parts list guys im not a god at building pcs)

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1 minute ago, ki8aras said:

if you're in a hurry to get a system up and running then just buy one of the systems you found

if you're willing to wait a couple of months then something like this would perform better

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler $59.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $149.99 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $139.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate IronWolf Pro 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card  
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $140.93 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $674.84
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-15 14:20 EST-0500  

(feel free to edit my suggested parts list guys im not a god at building pcs)

i found this build for $1500 but its a little more then I would like to pay.

 

*Graphics card - Zotac Geforce 3070 Twin edge OC white edition

*CPU - Intel Core i7-7700K

*CPU COOLER - Kraken Z63 W/ LED screen

*Motherboard - MSI Z270 SLI PLUS

*Ram - CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4

*PSU - EVGA 600 Gold Power Supply

*Case - NZXT H510

*memory - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB

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Just now, Jays__ said:

i found this build for $1500 but its a little more then I would like to pay.

 

*Graphics card - Zotac Geforce 3070 Twin edge OC white edition

*CPU - Intel Core i7-7700K

*CPU COOLER - Kraken Z63 W/ LED screen

*Motherboard - MSI Z270 SLI PLUS

*Ram - CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4

*PSU - EVGA 600 Gold Power Supply

*Case - NZXT H510

*memory - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB

nah man the 7700k only has 4 cores

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5 minutes ago, Jays__ said:

[Gaming RDY ELIBG202] Intel i7 9700K, ASUS Z390 Prime-P Motherboard, ASUS RTX 2080 Video Card, XPG 16GB (8GBx2) RGB DDR4-3200 Memory, 1TB SSD, RGB Liquid Cooler

Still kinda meh with the 9700k. What psu is it? Sometimes they cheap out on it which isn't good.

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5 minutes ago, ki8aras said:

if you're in a hurry to get a system up and running then just buy one of the systems you found

if you're willing to wait a couple of months then something like this would perform better

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler $59.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $149.99 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $139.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate IronWolf Pro 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card  
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $140.93 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $674.84
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-15 14:20 EST-0500  

(feel free to edit my suggested parts list guys im not a god at building pcs)

I would exchange the cpu and cpu cooler for a 10400f, and get a 3080, since OP is using this to game.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $150.91 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B460M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $75.00
Memory GeIL EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory $63.00
Storage Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $116.33 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $52.99 @ Newegg
Case Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $110.99 @ Amazon
Custom RTX 3080 $700.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1329.21
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-15 14:24 EST-0500  

 

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 

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4 minutes ago, Jays__ said:

i found this build for $1500 but its a little more then I would like to pay.

 

*Graphics card - Zotac Geforce 3070 Twin edge OC white edition

*CPU - Intel Core i7-7700K

*CPU COOLER - Kraken Z63 W/ LED screen

*Motherboard - MSI Z270 SLI PLUS

*Ram - CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4

*PSU - EVGA 600 Gold Power Supply

*Case - NZXT H510

*memory - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB

Not very great. At normal prices, that build would be worth under 1000 USD. Right now is a pretty bad time to buy a pc/components, especially graphics cards, because there's a huge shortages for basically all cards, and there's ginormous demand, for various reasons. 

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 

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1 minute ago, Jays__ said:

i found this build for $1500 but its a little more then I would like to pay.

 

*Graphics card - Zotac Geforce 3070 Twin edge OC white edition

*CPU - Intel Core i7-7700K

*CPU COOLER - Kraken Z63 W/ LED screen

*Motherboard - MSI Z270 SLI PLUS

*Ram - CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4

*PSU - EVGA 600 Gold Power Supply

*Case - NZXT H510

*memory - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB

That is terrible

Only good thing about it is the 3070 everything else is worse.

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That is terrible

Only good thing about it is the 3070 everything else is worse.

Not horrible per se, horrible for the price. 

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 

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Just now, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Not horrible per se, horrible for the price. 

Should have added that. Without the 3070 it's like a 450$ pc. With the 3070 it's + 650$ but very imbalanced.

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10 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

I would exchange the cpu and cpu cooler for a 10400f, and get a 3080, since OP is using this to game.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $150.91 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B460M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $75.00
Memory GeIL EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory $63.00
Storage Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $116.33 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $52.99 @ Newegg
Case Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $110.99 @ Amazon
Custom RTX 3080 $700.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1329.21
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-15 14:24 EST-0500  

 

would that cpu bottleneck the 3080?

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1 minute ago, Jays__ said:

would that cpu bottleneck the 3080?

No, It wouldn't. 

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 

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hi, those games you play are the same that i play. My specs are above $1400 but then you will know what i use for good performance. rtx 3070, 16x2gb 3200mhz, i7 7700K, b250m bazooka. those are my specs but i dont recommend you buying an i7 7th gen now cuz it will get old soon ( im preparing for an upgrade ) But if you could u can get an I7 9th gen (i7 9700k) this is a very good one but you can go many other ways. for the gpu i recommend you buying maybe an rtx 30xx but if you are on a budget then an 2070super will do perfectly fine (my previous gpu worked perfectly on rust,eft, r6) but i see that u want to play on 1440p so then i was thinking about an rtx 3070/80 maybe. about the ram 16gb or 32 will do both fine!

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($97.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($104.99 @ Lenovo) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card  ($399.00) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($124.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $1250.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-15 14:59 EST-0500

AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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Cooler is kinda crud and psu is a wildcard and varies from alrighty to bad it seems.

 

It's not a bad system but it also isn't the greatest. But with how the market is right now it's about as good as it gets really.

 

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1 hour ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

I would exchange the cpu and cpu cooler for a 10400f, and get a 3080, since OP is using this to game.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $150.91 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B460M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $75.00
Memory GeIL EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory $63.00
Storage Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $116.33 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $52.99 @ Newegg
Case Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $110.99 @ Amazon
Custom RTX 3080 $700.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1329.21
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-15 14:24 EST-0500  

 

That board is garbage.

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