Motherboard suggestions

[IAmAndre]

Hey,

 

I have an MSI B450 Tomahawk paired with Ryzen 2600X. I've been using this set-up for a couple of years but the motherboard has never worked properly. Some USB ports are not working, then the audio stopped working, the pc wakes up for no reason when in sleep mode, and I am now experiencing some random crashes when gaming, although I'm not sure if the motherboard is to blame for the last one.

 

So I'd like to get a new one without changing the processor for now. Ideally I would want a micro ATX model with 4 RAM slots and a PCI-E m.2 slot.

 

I'm not sure about the current socket compatibility so what's the most recent chipset compatible with my processor and also compatible with 5000 series? Because when I upgrade my CPU it will be for a high end one, so either a Ryzen 7 or a Ryzen 9.

 

Let me know what are my options.

 

Thanks

[Skiiwee29]

Asrock B450m Pro 4 is a great choice for what you're looking for. 

[SupaKomputa]

Change your PSU.

[podkall]

Are you sure it's not a PSU problem?

[IAmAndre]

1 minute ago, Skiiwee29 said:

Asrock B450m Pro 4 is a great choice for what you're looking for. 

Are B450 motherboards (and this model in particular) compatible with the 5000 series?

[IAmAndre]

Just now, podkall said:

Are you sure it's not a PSU problem?

No I have a good 850W Thermaltake PSU.  I mentioned it on my profile.

[TazerXI]

I hvae an asus tuf b450 m plus gaming. It is ~£70, and has a good mix of I/O and what you need. My main isssues are only 2 chassis fan headers if you have lots of those, only 1 non adressable rgb header (4 pin one), and the pcie 1x slot is covered by a 2 slot GPU in the top slot (like every gpu in the past decade). B450 boards do work with 5000 CPUs, but likely need a bios update, which you can do with the 2600x you have.

[Skiiwee29]

1 minute ago, IAmAndre said:

Are B450 motherboards (and this model in particular) compatible with the 5000 series?

According to there CPU support list, yes, as long as you have the correct BIOS version.

 

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450m Pro4/#CPU

[shaz2sxy]

I have a Asus TUF Gaming B450M-Pro and a Ryzen 5 - 3600 in my sons PC

 

 

It has 2 m.2 slots and 4 dimm slots

 

[Haro]

27 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

Let me know what are my options.

What is your budget? And your location and currency? 

[narrdarr]

is wifi and or bluetooth important too?

[IAmAndre]

36 minutes ago, Haro said:

What is your budget? And your location and currency? 

I buy from US stores, so B&H mostly and Amazon sometimes. I'm looking for the best price to performance ratio.

22 minutes ago, narrdarr said:

is wifi and or bluetooth important too?

No, I use an ethernet cable and a bluetooth dongle 

[Haro]

38 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

I buy from US stores, so B&H mostly and Amazon sometimes. I'm looking for the best price to performance ratio.

Since I don't know your budget, I'll just name some boards: 

The B450M Pro VDH Max, the B450M mortar Max, The B450M TUF Pro S (If you manage to find one) and the B450M Pro4 are all decent budget boards. 

The B450M TUF Pro (Non-S) and the B450 TUF Plus are subpart boards, and there are boards that are similar in price but are simply better. While the TUF Pro S is basically the B550M TUF Plus but with the older B450 Chipset, and is a decent board. 

[IAmAndre]

14 hours ago, Haro said:

Since I don't know your budget, I'll just name some boards: 

The B450M Pro VDH Max, the B450M mortar Max, The B450M TUF Pro S (If you manage to find one) and the B450M Pro4 are all decent budget boards. 

The B450M TUF Pro (Non-S) and the B450 TUF Plus are subpart boards, and there are boards that are similar in price but are simply better. While the TUF Pro S is basically the B550M TUF Plus but with the older B450 Chipset, and is a decent board. 

So I've been looking into these and have a question: are B550 motherboards compatible with the 2000 series? As I said, I don't have a clear budget in mind but since I'm not getting a new cpu until next year probably, I might as well get a "great" motherboard that would support a Ryzen 7/9 without any problem. 

[narrdarr]

17 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

So I've been looking into these and have a question: are B550 motherboards compatible with the 2000 series? As I said, I don't have a clear budget in mind but since I'm not getting a new cpu until next year probably, I might as well get a "great" motherboard that would support a Ryzen 7/9 without any problem. 

officially no. unofficial some motherboards do work even when it's not listed. which ones are are good choice for doing so, I'm not sure.

 

many b450 mb will support  5000 series  ccpus but lack many features that a 5000 with b550 x570 motherboards have when paired together .

 

 

[IAmAndre]

32 minutes ago, narrdarr said:

officially no. unofficial some motherboards do work even when it's not listed. which ones are are good choice for doing so, I'm not sure.

 

many b450 mb will support  5000 series  ccpus but lack many features that a 5000 with b550 x570 motherboards have when paired together .

 

 

That's a shame. Ok then it's not a good investment to get a B450 right now. I guess it's best to just wait until I'm ready to invest in a new cpu. With that said, is the 5900X for instance bottleneck with 3200MHz RAM sticks?

[narrdarr]

4 hours ago, IAmAndre said:

That's a shame. Ok then it's not a good investment to get a B450 right now. I guess it's best to just wait until I'm ready to invest in a new cpu. With that said, is the 5900X for instance bottleneck with 3200MHz RAM sticks?

it's not as bad as it seems. you only lose out on pcie gen 4 and SAM. you'd still get a huge bump in ipc performance. so it's a solid upgrade path later down the line without and is also why both my system and my girlfriend's system has a b450 mobo in them. her with a r5 1600 mine with a 3700x

 

 

I also think that the matx mobos are all kinda not that great. itx has some solid choice but only 2 dim slots(not like it matters ryzen builds seems to have less stability issues using 2 sticks over 4 sticks of ram) and

might have a couple less USB ports.  atx mobos also has some really good options. 

 

if you plan on waiting to do a CPU upgrade to justify you motherboard upgrade you might as well for zen3+ or zen 4

 

 

as far as 5900x being bottlenecked by 3200mhz. 3600 would better but only if your using the the same timings or tighter.

 

 

[IAmAndre]

3 hours ago, narrdarr said:

if you plan on waiting to do a CPU upgrade to justify you motherboard upgrade you might as well for zen3+ or zen 4

 

 

as far as 5900x being bottlenecked by 3200mhz. 3600 would better but only if your using the the same timings or tighter.

I think I'll go that route, especially considering the fact that the price of such a motherboard is only a fraction of the one of a high end CPU I want to pair it with. With that said, I'm going to buy new RAM sticks first. Would it make sense to buy some 3600MHz sticks? Here are the ones I have right now: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0143UM4TC

 

So should I get the exact same kit?

[narrdarr]

17 hours ago, IAmAndre said:

I think I'll go that route, especially considering the fact that the price of such a motherboard is only a fraction of the one of a high end CPU I want to pair it with. With that said, I'm going to buy new RAM sticks first. Would it make sense to buy some 3600MHz sticks? Here are the ones I have right now: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0143UM4TC

 

So should I get the exact same kit?

I don't think so, the cost isnt worth the small gain in performance. but if you insist. I would get 3600mhz  cl14. if you can find a fast kit with cl16 that's would be good too.

[IAmAndre]

5 hours ago, narrdarr said:

I don't think it the cost is worth the small gain in performance. but if you insist. I would get 3600mhz  cl14. if you can find a fast kit with cl16 that's would be good too.

Yeah I think I'll stick with the same model because even a faster kit would run at the same speeds as the slower one.