[Updated] Gwent source code is released, Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk source has been sold

[Vishera]

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

After reading it through, just realized that this is only for Gwent.

Let them have it, it's only a card game, and definitely not worth $1M.

And without the engine you can't compile the game.

[Mling]

they can pay me 7 mill to take this crappy code off their hands

[Master Disaster]

15 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

After reading it through, just realized that this is only for Gwent.

Let them have it, it's only a card game, and definitely not worth $1M.

Nah, the Gwent code is out thee right now (I assume they released it to show they really have it), the auction is for TW3 & CP2077s sources.

 

14 minutes ago, Vishera said:

And without the engine you can't compile the game.

They might have the engine code as well, if they took everything then its not impossible.

[SupaKomputa]

16 minutes ago, Vishera said:

And without the engine you can't compile the game.

 

2 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

the auction is for TW3 & CP2077s sources.

 

They might have the engine code as well, if they took everything then its not impossible.

If they can acquire the source of TW & CP, they might have the engine too.

I'm assuming they hack the central storage for all the codes.

 

35 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

I feel bad for CDPR. Of all the large publishers, I think they're one of the least-deserving of having something like this happen to them.

Yeah, all these negative sentiments happened after the release of CP.

If this happened to EA, we probably rejoice.

[Vishera]

11 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

They might have the engine code as well, if they took everything then its not impossible.

Yep,it's possible.

If they have the engine it would be a disaster for CDPR.

They would be able to take the game,change it,call it a different name and release it in countries where copyright is not respected.

 

But there is a silver-lining: All of these games were made with different engine versions.

The difference is huge  between the engine version used in The Witcher 3 to the version used in Cyberpunk.

 

The game may not work at all if they use the wrong engine version,especially if using older version on newer game,

Or a version that is missing features that other versions have.

[SupaKomputa]

10 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Yep,it's possible.

If they have the engine it would be a disaster for CDPR.

They would be able to take the game,change it,call it a different name and release it in countries where copyright is not respected.

 

But there is a silver-lining: All of these games were made with different engine versions.

The difference is huge  between the engine version used in The Witcher 3 to the version used in Cyberpunk.

 

The game may not work at all if they use the wrong engine version,especially if using older version on newer game,

Or a version that is missing features that other versions have.

At least you can get a grasp of the logic inside the script and apply it to your game.

As i said chinese developer would love this, release it in china only where they already have a huge market.

[Taf the Ghost]

3 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

I don't know much about this kind of stuff, but why would someone want to buy the source code for these games?

It's really only valuable to the company it was stolen from. This is basically a Ransom "play". This isn't security software.

[Doobeedoo]

This sucks, but yeah no way they'd pay the ransom or why would would anyone pay for stolen source code even. Quite dumb.

[Velcade]

why is the source code valuable? 

[Heliian]

1 hour ago, Velcade said:

why is the source code valuable? 

 

It's worthless unless you can successfully use and monetize it.  

 

A foreign game company might want it but it's probably already behind the times. 

 

Criminals are stupid. 

[Eigenvektor]

2 hours ago, Velcade said:

why is the source code valuable? 

You may be able to find exploits in the code. For a game that supports mods, you might be able to use this knowledge to create mods that do nefarious stuff. For a game that has online functionality you may be able to find a way to remotely exploit it and/or create cheats.

[Thaldor]

3 hours ago, Velcade said:

why is the source code valuable? 

Because it includes everything, unaltered, nicely commented and easy to read. As in it could take years to develop netcode as good as it's in something like World of Tanks and it could cost millions to license it from Wargaming (if it  was even available), but if you have the source code of the entire WoT, there is also that netcode that makes things go global and even the comments of the coders to help you understand it... If you're bit smarter you will dig and research that code and use that to improve your own, maybe even take it as a basis and heavily modify it to be unrecognizable and now you have skipped probably year or two worth of development and you have quite great netcode and it probably didn't cost you too much.

 

Might seem pretty useless since every available game engine has the same stuff in them but they have their differences and different approaches to things and often one is better than the others in certain things. Especially in-house engines (like the REDengine that CDPR uses) are the edge cases where they might be bad in many things but they are extremely good in other things and if you want those things it can take you a lot of time and resources to make them by yourself and cost you a ton if you can license those from them (and it might not be a question of money to get them, as the term says, they are in-house engines that only they use and they might not for any price license even parts of them to outside).

 

And then there is the ripoff culture of game development. Steal all that you can but don't get caught and especially don't get sued. Most of the time in game development goes to create the mechanics and the code and just the massive amount of assets, but you can easily skip all of that by using some premade engine and backbone (usually some example project for the engine) and ripoff assets from everywhere, hell, you can buy asset packs from places like Unity Store with pocket change, slap all of it together, make some half-assed dialogs and vóla, you have another asset flip POS game that you can throw to Steam and forget. With something like CP2077 source+assets you could make quite good asset flip scam (people are extremely stupid, with weight being on "extremely"), just change some shit, make some crappy webpage, hide yourself, call it "CuperBunk 7702" and ask $29,99 or less for it and wait for idiots to fall for it.

[Master Disaster]

Confirmed from multiple sources, auction has been closed early, someone outside the forum made an offer and it was accepted.

 

The amount is unknown.

I've also confirmed, the hackers also got the source for RedEngine 4.

 

Security experts think it might be a known ransomware group called Hello Kitty behind it