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Tinder's new user agreement - mandatory!

3 minutes ago, StDragon said:

That can be addressed so that the software has the key, but the user doesn't.

The data is visible to the user. The key doesn't matter at all.

 

3 minutes ago, StDragon said:

A cell phone with a camera or built-in screen capture has always been the primary form of exfiltration of data. *shrug*. Be sure to trust your friends.

Yup, basically impossible to circumvent that. Also, it is pretty hard to trust when you can't be sure your friend is actually your friend or a random person pretending to be them. 

 

Things are way more complicated than people realize or bother to think.

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After being catfished and cheated on, I just hid my card and deleted Tinder. It's a cesspool of horny people that can't even initiate a conversation.

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32 minutes ago, gabrielcarvfer said:

The data is visible to the user. The key doesn't matter at all.

 

Yup, basically impossible to circumvent that. Also, it is pretty hard to trust when you can't be sure your friend is actually your friend or a random person pretending to be them. 

 

Things are way more complicated than people realize or bother to think.

Gotta have some key signing parties then!

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14 minutes ago, Blade of Grass said:

Gotta have some key signing parties then!

And this is how the humanity reinvented group dates. xD

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3 hours ago, Tristerin said:

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Proxies for dayssss 

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1 hour ago, StDragon said:

One idea for a P2P platform is that all of your own posts are stored on your on PC, and cached in their list on their end. The twist is that it's all encrypted. To "delete", you simply revoke the key that allows friends to view the content. Or, you set a TTL (Time to Live) expiration that requires your friend's PC to re-request a new key for an extended period of time. Essentially, a Deadman's switch; if your PC is offline for a certain length of time, all of your content is no longer available to be viewed.

 

The downside is that your cellphone or PC has to be online for as much as possible. Also, because it's distributed, performance in loading times would vary.

 

So yeah, pros and cons to a P2P approach. But, at least you can control the content in how it's distributed and viewed. It's easy to ghost offline if you want to scrub the history.

 

So Facebook can kiss off!

 

I do like that idea for any sort of online interaction. 

An example would be: if I buy things from Amazon ever X days/weeks I could set it up to auto-delete my account if Y days/weeks went by without logging in.

All the data would be kept in my computer and a random hash would be generated by my computer once logged in combining my password with my IP, the website address, my account name on that website and the time of login (or something to that effect). Same for social media and yeah everything online.

Wouldn't that keep third parties from having have access to my data?

 

As for geolocation I think Apple (or was it mandated by the EU?) did something preventing apps from having access without the user's consent…? 

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3 minutes ago, caincha said:

I do like that idea for any sort of online interaction. 

An example would be: if I buy things from Amazon ever X days/weeks I could set it up to auto-delete my account if Y days/weeks went by without logging in.

If you purchase something, they can match your delivery address, credit card and name. Deleting your account makes no difference.

 

Gmail/Outlook/e-mail? Match unusual contacts.

 

Social network? Match network graph formed by the connected people.

 

The problem with the internet is that nobody ever thought of privacy when building it. Except maybe for spoofing IP addresses, which is a gigantic flaw which allows stupidly easy DDoS attacks, but can also help hide your traffic (not from your ISP).

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Bumble is a better app imo. Less supermodels pretending to be real people. 

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OH YEAH BOI, this got to be the new data dating I heard so much about.

Does this mean they also take you out for a blind dates? so you don't really know who or what you are dating, spooky but also fun!

nvm, nuke it all.

2 hours ago, TempestCatto said:

After being catfished and cheated on, I just hid my card and deleted Tinder. It's a cesspool of horny people that can't even initiate a conversation.

A lot of people there are likely not looking for a stable relationship, and of course you got bots and bad actors that want to abuse this or social media in general. Likely some one could get with, but in the way you meet them is also not great when its through an app. Since different intent and views, so if one doesn't do well the meeting in IRL is likely not going to do well either and little attachment to each other? Also how either party could "fake" their first reactions or motive, that might not take long before it breaks, if nothing else is done to make it work.

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5 hours ago, caincha said:

That. But also, if it becomes a trend and every app starts to make this mandatory then what…?

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5 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Wait what

Instead of using the app,he used the sub-reddit 😄

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7 hours ago, caincha said:

Summary

In the shadow of what should be shortly implemented by WhatsApp, Tinder seems to be following in the same footsteps and making mandatory the sharing of personal data and location.

I couldn't find anything other than a Reddit post as of yet. I assume it was just released and news should pop the following day.

 

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And like WhatsApp I will not accept it being mandatory and will ditch the app. 

If this becomes the trend I see myself deleting pretty much anything that tries to track me with my consent.

I am aware most already do and are just trying to make it legal - Tinder and WhatsApp included - but at least without having my consent there can be consequences in the future but once we do officially agree to it any sort of online privacy will be lost in less than a decade so… Long live Tor…?

 

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Transfer of data to 3rd parties and transmission of data from your region of jurisdiction is the most jolly one. I don't even need to read the upper terms of service to know they'll be littered with data hoarding BS.

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8 hours ago, PlayStation 2 said:

My dating site was this fucking forum, thank god I never had to resort to Tinder.

My dating sites where gathering with friends, private parties, bars and clubs. 

 

Thank god I never had to resort to internet dating. 

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8 minutes ago, Spindel said:

My dating sites where gathering with friends, private parties, bars and clubs.

Thank god I never had to resort to internet dating. 

Depends, for some it could be safer, for others it does more harm. Then again drunk driving from those areas, using other substances or fights, to more scary stuff etc, is not that good either. To being location based, how social the community could be and so on. But like with microtransactions, online friendships/relationships can be just as taxing and emotionally draining. From how you can see big online creators having quite a lot to deal with when it comes to such relationships. Issues around isolation or isolate ideas just like on social media etc.

 

While I would say there is a lot of positive sides of both, either does target a more physical or mental sides as a person. Where it becomes a bit like a diet, if you balance both, it might help you mentally or physically, as everyone has their demands and issues that could be dealt with differently.

 

Although if in a country that is "not so great" then I guess you could say that internet dating in general could be toxic and quite harmful, either against LGBT due to that countries views and people that are after them, to religion etc. Like we have seen a lot from big companies with their apps, making these groups to become targeted either through their services or information gathering. From using grinder in a more religious area for example, that might be used to imprison or to be attacked.

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