Is the rtx 3070 good for 1440p ultrawide ?

[Gustavo Dutra]

I have watched some reviews and it looks interesting. However im not sure if this card will hold much.

 

I mean like, maybe 1 year later games will get even more heavy and the gains i got now playing these 2021 games wont have on 2022 games with the 3070.

What do you guys think ?

Im planning to get the rtx 3070 and 5800x

[NutronSe7en]

the 3070 will be able to handle 1440p at least for current titles

[J0N1B0T]

I don't think it will be a problem in the near future, of course there will be better hardware in the future, and higher quality games, but I think that the 3070 will hold up pretty well in comparison. You have to remember, its an 11% performance increase from the 2080ti wich was the best you could get a few months ago. I myself plan on buying a 3060ti in the future. I think you're pretty good if you've gotten a 3070, but if you plan on buying one i'd wait because of the current prices.

 

1440p should not be a problem at all.

[Gustavo Dutra]

Just now, J0N1B0T said:

I don't think it will be a problem in the near future, of course there will be better hardware in the future, and higher quality games, but I think that the 3070 will hold up pretty well in comparison. You have to remember, its an 11% performance increase from the 2080ti wich was the best you could get a few months ago. I myself plan on buying a 3060ti in the future. I think you're pretty good if you've gotten a 3070, but if you plan on buying one i'd wait because of the current prices.

Yeah, a lot of people are saying me to wait. But i just cant stand my low framerates on my favorite games i play before the day ending.

I get low fps due to my new 1440p monitor.. I had a 1080p.

[Mister Woof]

If you are aiming for 1440p and don't care about ray tracing or DLSS titles, I would try to get a 6800 or possibly a 6700XT when it eventually launches.

 

The 3000 series cards are good at 1440p, but the 6800 is a bit stronger than the 3070 at that resolution. 

 

AMD recently announced they will be making available reference cards soon, and if you can get one for $549, that would be ideal.

 

Otherwise, if you value RTX/DLSS/NVENC, an MSRP 3070 FE camp from Best Buy is probably your best bet.

[CreativeName642]

5 minutes ago, Gustavo Dutra said:

Yeah, a lot of people are saying me to wait. But i just cant stand my low framerates on my favorite games i play before the day ending.

I get low fps due to my new 1440p monitor.. I had a 1080p.

If worse comes to worse you can turn down the settings and/or resolution of your games until you can get one. That's a free fix.

I would recommend against trying to get a 30 series card right now unless you find a good deal.

[Mister Woof]

I just realized you cross posted in the CPU section. You should edit your title to reflect you mean 1440p ultrawide....this is significantly more difficult to drive than normal 1440p. 

 

Normal 1440p is 3.7 million pixels, and 1440p ultrawide is 5 million pixels, around a 35% increase. For that resolution and high framerate, you will want a 6800XT or 3080. Or even a 6900XT/3090 makes sense here.

[Gustavo Dutra]

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

I just realized you cross posted in the CPU section. You should edit your title to reflect you mean 1440p ultrawide....this is significantly more difficult to drive than normal 1440p. 

 

Normal 1440p is 3.7 million pixels, and 1440p ultrawide is 5 million pixels, around a 35% increase. For that resolution and high framerate, you will want a 6800XT or 3080.

Oh yeah, i didnt know if i should have added that.

[DailyProcrastinator]

Pull the trigger on something. This mindset will get you in the perpetual loop of never wanting to upgrade because something will always be better. Or one day the GPU will not be able to perform as well with new titles. This can be said about pretty well any piece of hardware...

 

In a nutshell you are asking about future proofing, we do not know what will happen in the future and how the hardware will hold up.

 

For NOW the RTX 3070 is a really solid option. But I agree with what @Mister Woof said.

[Gustavo Dutra]

3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

I just realized you cross posted in the CPU section. You should edit your title to reflect you mean 1440p ultrawide....this is significantly more difficult to drive than normal 1440p. 

 

Normal 1440p is 3.7 million pixels, and 1440p ultrawide is 5 million pixels, around a 35% increase. For that resolution and high framerate, you will want a 6800XT or 3080. Or even a 6900XT/3090 makes sense here.

Wow, thats bad for me...

[Mister Woof]

4 minutes ago, Gustavo Dutra said:

Wow, thats bad for me...

Look at GPU benchmark results for 1440p performance and 4k.

 

1440p ultrawide is somewhere in between, about 25-30% or so hit over 1440p. Unscientific guess would be take 1440p results and multiply by .75 to .7 for your 1440p ultrawide results.

[Gustavo Dutra]

4 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Look at GPU benchmark results for 1440p performance and 4k.

 

1440p ultrawide is somewhere in between.

Doesn't look so bad. Heavy stuff gets around 40 to 70 and more less intensive even 100.

Im not sure, will look more as you said.

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, Gustavo Dutra said:

Doest look so bad. Heavy stuff gets around 40 to 70 and more less intensive even 100.

Im not sure, will look more as you said.

Just know when you look at most benchmarks online that say 1440p, they mean 2560x1440 which is significantly easier than 3440x1440. In that video, the only games that are getting over 100fps are the ones that are well known for high framerate on most cards.

 

Seems in most modern open world-type titles, ~70fps is going to be what you get at that resolution with that GPU based on the video.

[Sorenson]

It’s perfect for it. I’ve been using my 3070 with my 3440x1440 monitor for a couple months and have no complaints. This card is more than enough, getting me high frame rates in pretty much every game I play. Now of course, some games require you to turn down some settings a bit, but that is due to poor optimization and not the card being underpowered. Keep in mind, this card is pretty much as powerful as a 2080ti, no one in their right mind would have said that’s not enough for 3440x1440 last year. Also, the 8gb of VRAM hasn’t been an issue, although I do wish it had a bit more. 

[Gustavo Dutra]

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

Just know when you look at most benchmarks online that say 1440p, they mean 2560x1440 which is significantly easier than 3440x1440

Yeah, but this one says on the title 3440x1440

[Mister Woof]

4 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

It’s perfect for it. I’ve been using my 3070 with my 3440x1440 monitor for a couple months and have no complaints. This card is more than enough, getting me high frame rates in pretty much every game I play. Now of course, some games require you to turn down some settings a bit, but that is due to poor optimization and not the card being underpowered. Keep in mind, this card is pretty much as powerful as a 2080ti, no one in their right mind would have said that’s not enough for 3440x1440 last year. Also, the 8gb of VRAM hasn’t been an issue, although I do wish it had a bit more. 

It's not going to get really high framerates in a lot of games, but those are usually open world games that don't get good framerates on anything.

 

3 minutes ago, Gustavo Dutra said:

Yeah, but this one says on the title 3440x1440

The ones it gets good framerates in are the ones that are well known for high framerate on most cards.

 

3070 isn't bad, but I personally think for 1440p ultrawide, the 3080/6800XT makes more sense.

 

I'm personally hesitant to move to 1440p ultrawide myself, because even now the 3080 doesn't necessarily push very high framerate at normal 1440p (or 4k) in a lot of games, plus looking forward to more demanding games...I just don't want to set myself up for disappointment later.

[Sorenson]

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

It's not going to get really high framerates in a lot of games, but those are usually open world games that don't get good framerates on anything.

 

The ones it gets good framerates in are the ones that are well known for high framerate on most cards.

 

3070 isn't bad, but I personally think for 1440p ultrawide, the 3080/6800XT makes more sense.

I’m glad you can tell me, someone who has the card and uses it to game on a lot of different titles, that it won’t work the way i’m saying it will. First off, you’re complaining about the previous comment’ video that it isn’t get high frame rates in these open world games and then suggesting he go with a 6800/6800xt, completely disregarding the fact that most of those open world games have Ray Tracing turned on to max and are running on Ultra. If you want to talk about low frame rate, look at AMD’s stuff with ray tracing. Second, those games were all running with DLSS turned off, a decision that makes no sense for anyone with a 3xxx series card. 

[Mister Woof]

19 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

I’m glad you can tell me, someone who has the card and uses it to game on a lot of different titles, that it won’t work the way i’m saying it will. First off, you’re complaining about the previous comment’ video that it isn’t get high frame rates in these open world games and then suggesting he go with a 6800/6800xt, completely disregarding the fact that most of those open world games have Ray Tracing turned on to max and are running on Ultra. If you want to talk about low frame rate, look at AMD’s stuff with ray tracing. Second, those games were all running with DLSS turned off, a decision that makes no sense for anyone with a 3xxx series card. 

I am telling the OP that what he generally sees in benchmarks doesn't accurately reflect what he will see because most of the (accurate) benchmarks don't benchmark 1440p ultrawide.

 

A lot of games like AC Valhalla don't even have RTX/DLSS.

 

 

 

Now, you can argue that nobody plays on Ultra, and I'll agree with you. But clearly, even at 1440p, the 3070 struggles in this game (that lacks the features you mention which are more the exception than the rule). That puts it a tougher starting point before you start lowering settings.

 

This is one example where the stronger cards like the 3080/6800XT make more sense than the 3070 at 1440p.......and even more so at 1440p ultrawide. Factor in a 25% hit, you're in sub-60fps territory at ultra. And you'll have to drop settings to get that back to 60, let alone high refresh gaming (which he wants specifically based on this thread and his other thread in the CPU section.)

 

I'm not here to knock you or start anything, but I stand by my opinion that 1440p ultrawide makes more sense on the faster cards. If you are happy with the 3070 and 1440p ultrawide, then that is good and I am not telling you to stop enjoying it. But my opinion is my own.

 

 

[Gustavo Dutra]

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