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Scalpers have sold over 50,000 RTX 30 Series GPUs online

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Using a computer script to keep track of scalping, engineer Michael Driscoll has been able to track close to 50,000 NVIDIA RTX 30 series cards sold by scalpers online.

 

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 Back in December, Chicago based engineer Michael Driscoll reported that scalpers had sold over 15,000 NVIDIA RTX 30 series GPUs on eBay. Typically at double the normal pricing.

 

Michael has now released updated figures, and added data from StockX as well, bringing the current total to 49,680 GPUs sold on both sites. With an estimated $15.2 million profit made by scalpers and another $6.8 million in profit going to eBay and StockX.

 

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I don't have anything great or inspiring to say on the situation as a whole. The reimposed US tariffs are only going to make this worse. I'm glad my 1080 still does fine, and I think I'm just going to start buying previous generation cards when a new generation comes until that burns me. So I expect to finally purchase a 3080 used sometime late 2023.

 

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 https://www.pcmag.com/news/scalpers-have-sold-50000-nvidia-rtx-3000-gpus-through-ebay-stockx

https://basictech.tips/2021/01/27/scalpers-have-sold-over-50000-rtx-30-series-gpus-online/

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🤷 Guess there's 50,000 people happy with their purchase. It's a luxury item. It's not a necessity of life. Some can afford to spend like that of they really want something, most can't. 

 

Just wait it out like a normal person. 

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Oh, that's interesting I guess... But I want to know how many of those "photo of RTX3080" listings have been sold.

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4 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Um, 50k isn't even slightly close enough to cause supply issues 🤷‍♂️

It is if there's only 50k of them made 👀

 

Nvidia is intentionally surpressing stocks to inflate prices!!! /s

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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3 hours ago, Moonzy said:

It is if there's only 50k of them made 👀

 

Nvidia is intentionally surpressing stocks to inflate prices!!! /s

Nintendo does it so...maybe not /s?

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4 hours ago, Moonzy said:

It is if there's only 50k of them made 👀

 

Nvidia is intentionally surpressing stocks to inflate prices!!! /s

How would that benefit Nvidia? they are still selling the FE at the same price? so they don't make any extra money by a scalper selling the card for more money?

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1 minute ago, shaz2sxy said:

How would that benefit Nvidia? they are still selling the FE at the same price? so they don't make any extra money by a scalper selling the card for more money?

conspiracy theory: nvidia "sell"s the FE at MSRP, but immediately buys em up themselves and "scalp" them on ebay 1f440.png

that's why you can hardly buy them, they know exactly when to buy those cards because they're the ones restocking!

 

in all seriousness, people are buying them at all sorts of prices, retailer in my country are scalping thselves, selling 3080 at $1250 + requiring you to buy a full gaming PC along with it

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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6 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

conspiracy theory: nvidia "sell"s the FE at MSRP, but immediately buys em up themselves and "scalp" them on ebay 1f440.png

that's why you can hardly buy them, they know exactly when to buy those cards because they're the ones restocking!

 

in all seriousness, people are buying them at all sorts of prices, retailer in my country are scalping thselves, selling 3080 at $1250 + requiring you to buy a full gaming PC along with it

The conspiracy theories make no sense lol

 

In the UK i managed to get a 3070 FE on launch day and a 3060 ti FE in December

 

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2 minutes ago, shaz2sxy said:

In the UK i managed to get a 3070 FE on launch day and a 3060 ti FE in December

UK might have laws against retailer raising prices of items beyond certain point

 

Msia doesn't, we don't get scalpers but our retailers charge an absurd markup for GPUs

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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7 hours ago, dizmo said:

🤷 Guess there's 50,000 people happy with their purchase. It's a luxury item. It's not a necessity of life. Some can afford to spend like that of they really want something, most can't. 

 

Just wait it out like a normal person. 

One thing is luxury item which these are not, they are just mas produced gadgets and another is playing double the MSRP price because you're so desperately stupid. Yeah, I did overpay mine in store, but not by this much. Not to mention we have VAT which adds basically 20% on anything and everything.

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3 hours ago, Nacht said:

I wont recognize it exist until they fix supply issues.

Same, I thought that the last gen of cards were overpriced so I'll be damned if I'm going to pay a scalper over retail for one.

I'm not even going to attempt to buy any of these cards until the supply and the pricing is right.

 

I still can't believe that people are crazy enough to buy from the scalpers. I just don't see how anyone can justify it.

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12 hours ago, leadeater said:

Um, 50k isn't even slightly close enough to cause supply issues 🤷‍♂️

I don't believe this claim because I don't believe they've made more than 300 cards globally. 50k shouldn't cause a supply issue, yet here we are if it's true.

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2 minutes ago, JZStudios said:

I don't believe this claim because I don't believe they've made more than 300 cards globally. 50k shouldn't cause a supply issue, yet here we are if it's true.

But that's making the assumption that the scalping is the major cause of lack of retail supply when it's more likely the amount of retail sales is so high that is the actual cause.

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15 hours ago, lazypc said:

Summary

Using a computer script to keep track of scalping, engineer Michael Driscoll has been able to track close to 50,000 NVIDIA RTX 30 series cards sold by scalpers online.

 

Quotes

 

988368033_ebay3080listings.thumb.jpg.563f2d2c2d018851232a458da8a460b4.jpg

 

My thoughts

I don't have anything great or inspiring to say on the situation as a whole. The reimposed US tariffs are only going to make this worse. I'm glad my 1080 still does fine, and I think I'm just going to start buying previous generation cards when a new generation comes until that burns me. So I expect to finally purchase a 3080 used sometime late 2023.

 

Sources

 https://www.pcmag.com/news/scalpers-have-sold-50000-nvidia-rtx-3000-gpus-through-ebay-stockx

https://basictech.tips/2021/01/27/scalpers-have-sold-over-50000-rtx-30-series-gpus-online/

Yeah I agree with you. I think Imma just go looking for a used 1080 or something. Honestly, getting a new card is just too much trouble today. 

 

P.S. I'm an idiot and couldn't figure out how to reply to just the one part of the sentence. 

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16 minutes ago, leadeater said:

But that's making the assumption that the scalping is the major cause of lack of retail supply when it's more likely the amount of retail sales is so high that is the actual cause.

But if you add miners buying tons of cards, and there being a semiconductor shortage causing supply to be lower then I'd have to speculate scalpers are at least causing somewhat of a supply issue.

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13 hours ago, leadeater said:

Um, 50k isn't even slightly close enough to cause supply issues 🤷‍♂️

Exactly this is fake news imo... there has to be way more scalped cards... and that doesn't necessarily mean they're the reason for the supply issues, that's more on the actual low supplies xD. 

 

kinda looks to me a lot of the manufacturers currently just don't make (m)any new cards anymore... nvidia just delisted the 30xx in their stores in Europe to give one example... if that's not unusual then idk... 

 

I really think the supplies for certain parts just isn't there at the moment - also why nvidia is pulling this "best of 20xx series" currently (which is unprecedented afaik) 🤷🏼

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

But if you add miners buying tons of cards, and there being a semiconductor shortage causing supply to be lower then I'd have to speculate scalpers are at least causing somewhat of a supply issue.

I doubt it. Scalpers aren't buying hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of cards like miners and OEMs are. Scalpers are just highschoolers running scripts they found on github to buy GPUs from Nvidia and AMD lol

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16 hours ago, Spotty said:

Oh, that's interesting I guess... But I want to know how many of those "photo of RTX3080" listings have been sold.

i listed one as a joke and someone made me an offer of 900 dollars. lucky for him i didnt accept it

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4 hours ago, leadeater said:

But that's making the assumption that the scalping is the major cause of lack of retail supply when it's more likely the amount of retail sales is so high that is the actual cause.

I'm still not convinced they've made more than 300. I highly doubt they made a million or two million cards and they're all sold out instantly from day 1. They 100% didn't make enough stock in the first place. The vendors have stated they've only gotten a relatively small number of cards.

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16 hours ago, leadeater said:

But that's making the assumption that the scalping is the major cause of lack of retail supply when it's more likely the amount of retail sales is so high that is the actual cause.

Not really. There are less than 10.000 interested people at a large retailer in romania (we can see numbers) for all of the 30 series GPUs combined. And the stocks are both empty and scalper priced.

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43 minutes ago, Rym said:

Not really. There are less than 10.000 interested people at a large retailer in romania (we can see numbers) for all of the 30 series GPUs combined. And the stocks are both empty and scalper priced.

But you cannot just look at your country to see if there is a global shortage. You're not getting enough products in to your country because global supply is too limited by demand. 

 

In a single MSI factory they produce 1 million graphics cards per month. This is just MSI, just one of their factories, there's every other AIB and Nvidia themselves selling graphics cards so the total number of graphics card that are being manufactured is WAY higher than 1 million.

 

https://youtu.be/BYzxDaxNer0?t=396

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In 2016 the average per quarter Nvidia GPU shipments were around 9.5 million units, Nvidia's latest revenue figures (for their gaming sector) are roughly 3 times that and while that doesn't actually mean 3 times as many units right now Nvidia is producing more GPUs than they ever had by a large margin and directly selling graphics cards and AIB are also selling more than they have ever before so it's not unreasonable to say they are around 20 million units per quarter this last year.

 

50,000 over a few months scalped and sold is literally nothing when a single factory is making 1 million every month.

 

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying every single graphics card is an RTX 30 series but it's also not an insignificant number either. Far higher than people are currently thinking.

 

We're currently talking about a company that makes billions in revenue per quarter yet saying a mere 15 million in the same time frame is contributing to global supply shortages, can you see how this just doesn't stack up?

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Screw Scalpers.

You can take a look at all of the Tech that I own and have owned over the years in my About Me section and on my Profile.

 

I'm Swiss and my Mother language is Swiss German of course, I speak the Aargauer dialect. If you want to watch a great video about Swiss German which explains the language and outlines the Basics, then click here.

 

If I could just play Videogames and consume Cool Content all day long for the rest of my life, then that would be sick.

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On 1/29/2021 at 1:19 PM, leadeater said:

But you cannot just look at your country to see if there is a global shortage. You're not getting enough products in to your country because global supply is too limited by demand. 

You have to remember that this forum operates on the logic that:

1) Nvidia is literally evil. And I mean evil in the Saturday cartoon kind of sense, where they are making decisions just to screw people over for no reason. 

2) scalpers and miners are the cause of all evil in the world. There is not a single thing in the world that you can't blame on scalpers or miners. 

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