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Could you use a ARCTIC Accelero Xtreme IV on a rtx 3070?

ScriptKiddo

Hey guys! I’m planing on buying a rtx 3070 but I’m worried about how loud these Cards get (especially if i plan on kind of pushing it to its limits with a 1440p ultrawide monitor) Due to how small my room is and because I’m *kind of* a audiophile with a bunch of open back headphones. Could I and how difficult would it be (I’m a beginner to pc building but very handy and into hobbyist electronics.) install the ARCTIC Accelero Xtreme IV vga cooler into one.

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3070 is not supported.

 

Even if one of those came out that would be supported in general they suck. Why?

 

Well they do a very good job of cooling the actual gpu die but everything else gets crazy hot as they either have no heatsink, tiny crappy heatsinks, poorly covered tiny heatsinks,... that basically have to be glue onto the chips. Hence why you often just end up getting worse performance and barely any noise reductions if not louder as the card ramps up the van to not have it's ram, vrms,... cook to death

 

So don't get it and just get a 3070 that is know to be fairly quiet. Couple that with a case with good airflow and good silent fans (like the arctic p series fans) and boom about as quiet as it gets with air cooling a gpu.

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4 minutes ago, ScriptKiddo said:

Hey guys! I’m planing on buying a rtx 3070 but I’m worried about how loud these Cards get (especially if i plan on kind of pushing it to its limits with a 1440p ultrawide monitor) Due to how small my room is and because I’m *kind of* a audiophile with a bunch of open back headphones. Could I and how difficult would it be (I’m a beginner to pc building but very handy and into hobbyist electronics.) install the ARCTIC Accelero Xtreme IV vga cooler into one.

 

No.

ARCTIC Accelero Xtreme IV spec page also tells you what GPUs it is compatible with...

 

That and from what I know, the mounting holes for the RTX 3000-series is different from the previous generations of nVidia GPUs.

 

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4 minutes ago, jaslion said:

3070 is not supported.

 

Even if one of those came out that would be supported in general they suck. Why?

 

Well they do a very good job of cooling the actual gpu die but everything else gets crazy hot as they either have no heatsink, tiny crappy heatsinks, poorly covered tiny heatsinks,... that basically have to be glue onto the chips. Hence why you often just end up getting worse performance and barely any noise reductions if not louder as the card ramps up the van to not have it's ram, vrms,... cook to death

Wat.  I used Arctic Twin Turbo 2 for 7 years on my HD7850 and I was able to push my vrams 300mhz above what I could without gluing the heatsinks it came with and +150mhz above stock cooler (I was vrm limited) on core despite being significantly limited with shitty sapphire vrm design.

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2 minutes ago, Levent said:

Wat.  I used Arctic Twin Turbo 2 for 7 years on my HD7850 and I was able to push my vrams 300mhz above what I could without gluing the heatsinks it came with and +150mhz above stock cooler (I was vrm limited) on core despite being significantly limited with shitty sapphire vrm design.

Yeah that was a 7850 look at new cards. Their memory gets beyond hot and clocks down. Stuff changes you know. That and the hd 7850 was a fairly easy to cool card as it was a upper mid tier card and really didn't need much cooling. The 3070 requires a solid cooler and it's ram and vrms to be cooled well. People have tested this and yeah mid range cards are ok with it but the higher you go the more you need need proper cooling on all parts.

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If you're considering what card to buy, it's always better to just buy one with a good cooler on it to begin with. Some VGA coolers have mounts that allows screw hole length adjustments, but never angle adjustments which means if it's designed with square hole design on say, Pascal and Turing cards in mind, it can't work with rectangular designs on the new Ampere cards.

 

15 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Well they do a very good job of cooling the actual gpu die but everything else gets crazy hot as they either have no heatsink, tiny crappy heatsinks, poorly covered tiny heatsinks,... that basically have to be glue onto the chips. Hence why you often just end up getting worse performance and barely any noise reductions if not louder as the card ramps up the van to not have it's ram, vrms,... cook to death

I dont see the problem of ditching the VRAM and VRM heatsinks that comes with the new cooler and buying your own better ones. You're ditching the stock GPU heatsink already, might as well go further.

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

I dont see the problem of ditching the VRAM and VRM heatsinks that comes with the new cooler and buying your own better ones. You're ditching the stock GPU heatsink already, might as well go further.

That I agree with but as you said just buy one that has a good cooler immediately. It's been proven multiple times that for some cards you just need better heatsinks like a rx5700 as that would instantly throttle with the ones it came with.

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6 minutes ago, jaslion said:

That I agree with but as you said just buy one that has a good cooler immediately. It's been proven multiple times that for some cards you just need better heatsinks like a rx5700 as that would instantly throttle with the ones it came with.

it's not always doable, cards can be in very short supply (or at massively inflated prices) and there are reasons why you can't wait. Also cards like quadros and titans only come with one cooler design and they are hardly good.

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

it's not always doable, cards can be in very short supply (or at massively inflated prices) and there are reasons why you can't wait. Also cards like quadros and titans only come with one cooler design and they are hardly good.

Titans have always been fine no? Not good but just fine. Quadro's also the same. Loud but fully functional. That and they do run at a lower power compared to the gaming counterparts. Most people that buy these use these in a dedicated render machine or a workstation and those basically come with the fact that they will be louder which is ok for a work environment or a server room.

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7 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Titans have always been fine no? Not good but just fine.

Not the blower ones from the past. Ofc if you're wealthy enough to buy a Titan you might convert to liquid cooling instead.

 

8 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Quadro's also the same. Loud but fully functional. That and they do run at a lower power compared to the gaming counterparts. Most people that buy these use these in a dedicated render machine or a workstation and those basically come with the fact that they will be louder which is ok for a work environment or a server room

CAD machines at home will be too loud, especially when work at home is much more popular now. Also because it can't afford to have any down times, liquid cooling conversion should be avoided.

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Not the blower ones from the past. Ofc if you're wealthy enough to buy a Titan you might convert to liquid cooling instead.

Weren't they fine due to temp limit and dynamic boost? Sure you missed out on some performance but I wouldn't call 80c bad. The noise fair enough. I used to run a hp z620 with a quadro k5000 or 6000 (been a bit forgot) and yeah it was audible but honestly fine. I do get why someone that goes for silence would go for it.

 

I don't agree with your downtimes tho as you will have to convert the card to the new cooler which still takes time. A generic liquid loop with nothing fancy can run for many years and but totally ok. If the card goes for 4+years anyway then there will be a time maintenance is needed either way for cooling paste. Yeah liquid cooling will be more expensive totally fair.

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Buy the best cooled card you can instead of spending less on a GPU and then more on a aftermarket cooler - invest in a standalone good cooling card

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