PC Master Race - Beating the Series X

[ColinLTT]

The new lineup of consoles is a pretty sweet deal when you consider the price and performance, but can we build a gaming PC that can thwart these well-optimized gaming boxes? We’re sure going to try!

 

 

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[WhitetailAni]

I got the first comment again.

Is Linus building in the Xbox case again?

[Tree42]

smh linus cheated on the price, unsubscribed and unliked

[riba2233]

That resolution scale on Doom Eternal though, of course it is running at ~60 fps

[cm992]

No PC will match the XSX or PS5 at the same price for years

[Gaijin]

You guys are better than this mustard race bull, please stop.

 

All platforms are great. We are lucky to have so much choice, and so much stuff to enjoy.

 

Your build is also full of second hand parts, and half of them didn't even work, so you actually spent a lot more. Which you're comparing to the *new RRP of another product. Also your build has a quarter of the storage. Seriously this was a low quality video premise and should have been scrapped during planning.

 

I know you just got braces Linus, but that does not justify a regression into tween mentality.

 

You guys are better than this, which is why I watch you over some other PC Youtubers. Please remember you're adults.

[Gaijin]

double post

[Granular]

I'd say that the main point for getting a PC is that you're not subject to Microsoft's monopoly on software distribution and don't have to pay a monthly subscription for features that are free on the PC.

Microsoft is selling Xboxes at cost because they're in a position to squeeze more money out of you in the long run.

[Gaijin]

5 minutes ago, Granular said:

 

Microsoft is selling Xboxes at cost because they're in a position to squeeze more money out of you in the long run.

 

No, they're selling at cost because they have competition. This is viable because they sell you further things down the line, but it is not why they sell at cost.

[Hunter259]

Please stop doing single channel every single time you do low price builds..... Please......

[Gaijin]

2 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

Please stop doing single channel every single time you do low price builds..... Please......

Also this. 1x16 had to have been more expensive than 2x8 surely???

[Granular]

10 minutes ago, Gaijin said:

 

No, they're selling at cost because they have competition. This is viable because they sell you further things down the line, but it is not why they sell at cost.

I suppose you're right, though I don't particularly care to distinguish between prerequisites and motivations in this case.

[Gaijin]

8 minutes ago, Granular said:

I suppose you're right, though I don't particularly care to distinguish between prerequisites and motivations in this case.

Well, it's all relevant. Including the fact that consoles are sold for cost but every one of the components in our PC's were sold for profit, making them more expensive.

[JR1911]

This still wasn't an apples to apples comparison, if your price to match is the price of a new Xbox then you should only be allowed to use new parts. If your using used parts the you should also be comparing the price to a used Xbox.

[Gaijin]

2 minutes ago, JR1911 said:

This still wasn't an apples to apples comparison, if your price to match is the price of a new Xbox then you should only be allowed to use new parts. If your using used parts the you should also be comparing the price to a used Xbox.

Yup. And this has been the case with most mustard racer videos of this type over the years.

 

It's time we left 2014 in the last decade guys. 2 million people are dead this decade already that didn't need to be. Lets drop this mustard racer crap for good, and just appreciate what we still have. Consoles and PCs both made our lockdown time so much easier.

[rekinxxxl]

Isn't the Doom test not that correct? In the video is, what I assume using dynamic scaling ( the % next to resolution) which isnt really "true" 4K when it isnt 100% - that would explain 1070 working so well and having 60fps, even though at times it drops to 50% of 4K. 

[geok1ng]

The video idea was good, the execution not so much. 

 

A- Where did you find a Xeon E5 2667v3 for $69? The only ones i can find around that price point at "ES"  samples with broken QPI and memory channels that perform worst than a stock 2640v3. 

 

B-The idea of getting a 6900k was doomed to fail : there are very few chinese X99 motherboards capable of (barely) holding an unlocked CPU above 4GHz OC. Naming them : Huananzhi X99 F8/TF/T8 and Jingsha D8. Or one could get an used MSI X99 mpower for US$ 162. By picking up the 6900K you basically spent your budget and self-destruct your project into a motherboard designed to run 2620v3 and 2640v3. 

 

A much better solution, inside budget, would be a Xeon E5 1650v1 for US$ 55 and a Huananzhi x79 2.49pc (Luxury 2.1) for US$ 82, plus some server DDR3 1866 on the cheap. That would not only save money but  build a PC whose VRMs are not a fire hazard. 

[Gaijin]

37 minutes ago, rekinxxxl said:

Isn't the Doom test not that correct? In the video is, what I assume using dynamic scaling ( the % next to resolution) which isnt really "true" 4K when it isnt 100% - that would explain 1070 working so well and having 60fps, even though at times it drops to 50% of 4K. 

Dunno if it even matters, never seen so much tearing in a PC building video. Real shame this one.

[Brawhammer]

Think this was perhaps one of the most useless videos I've ever seen on this channel.

 

- Single Channel Memory?

- Pointless talking about parts which didn't work together? Did you legit just read out what you attempted as an attempt to extend the video minutes? Why do we need to know what you did behind the scenes with weirdo chinese parts?

- All used parts, like you even said it yourself, the graphics card looked like it game from a mining rig. 

- Fire hazard motherboard???????

- "our initial plans didn't work, so we got lazy and just used a old process from the warehouse"????

 

Feels like genuinely out of ideas shit here. And I feel like I see this kind of video every now and then. Which might explain also why I'm exhausted with seeing the same old same old.

 

This does absolutely nothing for the notion of buying used in order to get parts in. Why don't you just accept the consoles are genuinely a good deal instead of steering customers towards hardware failure.

[SFFDesigns]

19 minutes ago, XenZibe said:

Did you legit just read out what you attempted as an attempt to extend the video minutes? Why do we need to know what you did behind the scenes with weirdo chinese parts?

I don't agree with this.

 

I think that if someone were to attempt this, knowing what LTT went through in terms of parts not working with each other and being sent the wrong thing is actually valid. 

[Nena Trinity]

What you need for console competitor:

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 or Core i5-10400F? (closest match would be Ryzen 7 4800H)

(preferable better, tough you may get away with 1st or 2nd gen Ryzen 7)

GPU: Radeon 6700/6700 XT or GeForce RTX 3060/3060 Ti?

Storage: Any SSD? (m.2 is best match)

Case PSU: Anything that can fit the specs above,

 

[Commodus]

Never mind the haters, I enjoyed the video — in part because Linus and crew were frank about the many compromises involved in reaching their goal.

 

The simple reality is that you can't cobble together an Xbox Series X-level PC or a PS5-level PC) for $500, even when resorting to old and used parts. Microsoft is taking advantage of economies of scale that you can't match with off-the-shelf parts. I'm sure this will change in a year or two, but for now the console has the better value.

[Commodus]

1 hour ago, Nena Trinity said:

What you need for console competitor:

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 or Core i5-10400F? (closest match would be Ryzen 7 4800H)

(preferable better, tough you may get away with 1st or 2nd gen Ryzen 7)

GPU: Radeon 6700/6700 XT or GeForce RTX 3060/3060 Ti?

Storage: Any SSD? (m.2 is best match)

Case PSU: Anything that can fit the specs above,

 

Gotta have an m.2 SSD. I've heard the GPU performance is comparable to an RTX 2060/2070, but that may be hard to fully gauge as it can vary widely depending on the game.

[SteveGrabowski0]

Y'all didn't think this video was pretty tongue in cheek about how PC Master Race always acts like you can build console killers cheap? Look at all this trouble we went to, look at these fire hazard parts, this mined on 4.5 year-old gpu, and this garbage case and controller and we're still above the price of the Series X. I thought the video was pretty funny.

 

The console killer PC was an idea stuck in last gen when Microsoft put out a crap HTPC for $500 and Sony also went conservative on the hardware after PS3 nearly bankrupted them.

[Radium_Angel]

There is one thing a PC will always beat a console at:

Upgradability.

 

While the various Xboxes through the years have been to some extent x86-based, none could be upgraded in any meaningful way, and so off the go to the landfill or Goodwill.

Yes the PC LTT built for that video was poorly thought out, but it's also an apples to ranges comparison simply because the Xbox is a closed ecosystem, whereas the PC is not.