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Aeonsyll927

Ok so my current power supply is a Thermaltake Toughpower XT 875W. I do not over clock anything on my pc. This PSU is so superb, it has never failed on me since I installed it I think around 2009-2010. Its now 2021. (11 years?!) I am not going to tempt fate however, by continuing to run my PC with this PSU as I must respect the laws and limitations set by physics and thermodynamics. Although I have never opened its insides, the box cover of that PSU claims that it uses Japanese capacitors (https://www.tweaktown.com/image.php?image=https://static.tweaktown.com/content/3/7/3736_05_full.jpg). I still have that same box with me, and I can probably tell that it probably does use them given that I've been running my PC without changing the PSU. Since I pretty much stuck with only this brand of PSU, I'm very much a green horn to other brands as with regards to their tiers of PSUs that they offer. (Would like to buy that exact same Thermaltake PSU model if I had the chance again, hehe)

 

Corsair's PSU Tiers: https://www.custompcguide.net/the-differences-between-all-corsair-power-supply-units/

Seasonic's PSU Tiers: https://seasonic.com/oneseasonic

 

I'm looking for a power supply that has Japanese capacitors (I know we can argue all about the capacitor shizz and how Japanese capacitors can also be made bad or can be made in China but I just highly prefer it to have Japanese capacitors and at least 800W. Here are the list of power supplies that are available and I can choose from:

 

1.) Seasonic Focus GX-850 Gold 850 Watts 80+ Full Modular PSU SSR-850 FX
Specs: https://seasonic.com/focus-gx#specification

 

2.) Corsair AX860 860 Watts 80 Plus Platinum Modular 
Specs: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/ax-series-config/p/CP-9020044-NA#tab-tech-specs

 

3.) Corsair RM850 Gold 850 Watts 80+ Full Modular
Specs: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/rm-series-config/p/CP-9020056-NA

 

4.)  Seasonic Focus+ 850 PX Platinum 850 Watts 80+ Full Modular SSR-850 PX
Specs: https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-Platinum-SSR-850PX-Modular-Warranty/dp/B074N9FNV2

 

5.) Seasonic Prime Gold 850 Watts 80+ Full Modular PSU SSR-850GD
Specs: https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-850GD-ATX12V-Modular-Warranty/dp/B075M3VT1L

 

6.) Seasonic Prime PX Platinum 850watts PSU, full modular, pn: SSR-850PD
Spec: https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-prime-ultra-platinum-ssr-850pd-850w/p/N82E16817151209

 

7.) Seasonic Focus+ Platinum 850 PX, 850 W PSU Full Modular SSR-850PX

Specs: https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-850-platinum-ssr-850px-850w/p/N82E16817151190

 

8.) Seasonic Focus GM Gold 850W PSU, semi modular SSR-850FM

Specs: https://www.bermorzone.com.ph/product/seasonic-focus-plus-850-gold-ssr-850fx-850w-80-gold-atx12v-eps12v-full-modular/?v=a25496ebf095

 

 

PS. I am unfamiliar with the letter variations at the end of Seasonic PSU models, if anyone can enlighten me (i.e.  SSR-850 PX, SSR-850GD, etc.). I'm also researching on their reviews, but if anyone has experience in using them or testimonies - any would be welcome.

 

Some related literature:

Beware of CapXon caps (Chinese capacitors) on PSUs...
https://www.s-config.com/bad-capacitors-thanks-capxon-caps-and-samsung/

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=39119

 

Capxon caps found on Corsair AX860i PSU: https://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=988200

 

I have read that Seasonic uses Japanese caps on all their PSUs...but we will see..

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/which-power-supply-do-you-need-seasonic-showcase-2017/
I'm kind of leaning towards Seasonic atm...Also can't find any EVGA PSUs on my area, but I heard they're also good too...

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Where are you buying from, and what are you going to power? As availability and pricing will depend on that. I would recommend staying away from any Seasonic PSUs, as they use crappy fans, lack multi rail OCP, and have/had issues with cold solder joints, which does matter, unlike jApAnEsE cApS.

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35 minutes ago, Aeonsyll927 said:

Ok so my current power supply is a Thermaltake Toughpower XT 875W. I do not over clock anything on my pc. This PSU is so superb, it has never failed on me since I installed it I think around 2009-2010. Its now 2021. (11 years?!) I am not going to tempt fate however, by continuing to run my PC with this PSU as I must respect the laws and limitations set by physics and thermodynamics. Although I have never opened its insides, the box cover of that PSU claims that it uses Japanese capacitors (https://www.tweaktown.com/image.php?image=https://static.tweaktown.com/content/3/7/3736_05_full.jpg). I still have that same box with me, and I can probably tell that it probably does use them given that I've been running my PC without changing the PSU. Since I pretty much stuck with only this brand of PSU, I'm very much a green horn to other brands as with regards to their tiers of PSUs that they offer. (Would like to buy that exact same Thermaltake PSU model if I had the chance again, hehe)

 

Corsair's PSU Tiers: https://www.custompcguide.net/the-differences-between-all-corsair-power-supply-units/

Seasonic's PSU Tiers: https://seasonic.com/oneseasonic

 

I'm looking for a power supply that has Japanese capacitors (I know we can argue all about the capacitor shizz and how Japanese capacitors can also be made bad or can be made in China but I just highly prefer it to have Japanese capacitors and at least 800W. Here are the list of power supplies that are available and I can choose from:

 

1.) Seasonic Focus GX-850 Gold 850 Watts 80+ Full Modular PSU SSR-850 FX
Specs: https://seasonic.com/focus-gx#specification

 

2.) Corsair AX860 860 Watts 80 Plus Platinum Modular 
Specs: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/ax-series-config/p/CP-9020044-NA#tab-tech-specs

 

3.) Corsair RM850 Gold 850 Watts 80+ Full Modular
Specs: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/rm-series-config/p/CP-9020056-NA

 

4.)  Seasonic Focus+ 850 PX Platinum 850 Watts 80+ Full Modular SSR-850 PX
Specs: https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-Platinum-SSR-850PX-Modular-Warranty/dp/B074N9FNV2

 

5.) Seasonic Prime Gold 850 Watts 80+ Full Modular PSU SSR-850GD
Specs: https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-850GD-ATX12V-Modular-Warranty/dp/B075M3VT1L

 

6.) Seasonic Prime PX Platinum 850watts PSU, full modular, pn: SSR-850PD
Spec: https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-prime-ultra-platinum-ssr-850pd-850w/p/N82E16817151209

 

7.) Seasonic Focus+ Platinum 850 PX, 850 W PSU Full Modular SSR-850PX

Specs: https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-850-platinum-ssr-850px-850w/p/N82E16817151190

 

8.) Seasonic Focus GM Gold 850W PSU, semi modular SSR-850FM

Specs: https://www.bermorzone.com.ph/product/seasonic-focus-plus-850-gold-ssr-850fx-850w-80-gold-atx12v-eps12v-full-modular/?v=a25496ebf095

 

 

PS. I am unfamiliar with the letter variations at the end of Seasonic PSU models, if anyone can enlighten me (i.e.  SSR-850 PX, SSR-850GD, etc.). I'm also researching on their reviews, but if anyone has experience in using them or testimonies - any would be welcome.

 

Some related literature:

Beware of CapXon caps (Chinese capacitors) on PSUs...
https://www.s-config.com/bad-capacitors-thanks-capxon-caps-and-samsung/

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=39119

 

Capxon caps found on Corsair AX860i PSU: https://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=988200

 

I have read that Seasonic uses Japanese caps on all their PSUs...but we will see..

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/which-power-supply-do-you-need-seasonic-showcase-2017/
I'm kind of leaning towards Seasonic atm...Also can't find any EVGA PSUs on my area, but I heard they're also good too...

All of those models are high end. What parts will you be using?

“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” - Sun Tzu, The Art of War #muricaparrotgang

Tier Lists and Specs List Below

Motherboard VRM tier list  -----  PSU tier list

React if you agree with me!

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600  |  CPU Cooler: Asus ROG STRIX LC240 White |  RAM: Crucial Ballistix RGB 16GB 3600 | Mobo: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A  |  SSD: Inland m.2 NVMe SSD 256GB  |  HDD: Seagate 2TB 7200RPM |  GPU: RTX 3060 Ti FE  |  PSU: Seasonic SGX 650 |  Case: Lian Li o11 mini-W  |  Mouse: Razer Basilisk mercury |  Keyboard: Drop CTRL (Used. I did not spend $200 on a keyboard) |  Mouse Pad: Aura Mech Purple Storm  |  MonitorAsus TUF 24" IPS 144Hz 1080p

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The Corsair AX860 and Orange Label RM850 are out of production (and the old RM isn't so good), so I wouldn't get either of those. The Seasonic "PX" (Platinum, Full Modular) models are the best, especially the fan-less one. But really you should just get whichever is the best price since any of the rest are great too.

BabyBlu (Primary): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3GHz, 5.0GHz all-core, delidded
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000MHz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070MHz core, 8000MHz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ up to 5.0GHz, 4.8Ghz all-core, relidded w/ LM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, w/ Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BigBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28
  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 6700
  • Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133
  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
  • Case: Fractal Design Define 7
  • HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5
  • SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME
  • Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60
  • PSU: Corsair CX450
  • Display: None
  • Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S
  • Keyboard/Mouse: None
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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Just now, seon123 said:

Where are you buying from, and what are you going to power? As availability and pricing will depend on that. I would recommend staying away from any Seasonic PSUs, as they use crappy fans, lack multi rail OCP, and have/had issues with cold solder joints, which does matter, unlike jApAnEsE cApS.

From my experience, all high-er end Seasonic PSU's are great. I have used 3 personally and I have build 3 others with them. All of the ones listed a GREAT PSU's, but some of them are not the best powering high power VEGA or 3000 series cards.The ones I have used, are the SGX650, GX650, and the prime gold

“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” - Sun Tzu, The Art of War #muricaparrotgang

Tier Lists and Specs List Below

Motherboard VRM tier list  -----  PSU tier list

React if you agree with me!

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600  |  CPU Cooler: Asus ROG STRIX LC240 White |  RAM: Crucial Ballistix RGB 16GB 3600 | Mobo: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A  |  SSD: Inland m.2 NVMe SSD 256GB  |  HDD: Seagate 2TB 7200RPM |  GPU: RTX 3060 Ti FE  |  PSU: Seasonic SGX 650 |  Case: Lian Li o11 mini-W  |  Mouse: Razer Basilisk mercury |  Keyboard: Drop CTRL (Used. I did not spend $200 on a keyboard) |  Mouse Pad: Aura Mech Purple Storm  |  MonitorAsus TUF 24" IPS 144Hz 1080p

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All of those PSUs that I have listed are available locally in my area 

I was looking to get a Nvidia RX3060 around december, however scalping issues happened + covid makes it worse. Price still kinda high, maybe I might just wait for the next series after that. I've also yet to try these fan-less PSUs, but I can imagine the dust build-up due to it might be worse as there's many holes in which dust bunnies can accumulate: https://seasonic.com/prime-titanium-fanless

 

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20 minutes ago, Aeonsyll927 said:

but I can imagine the dust build-up due to it might be worse as there's many holes in which dust bunnies can accumulate

It's the opposite. Without a fan, dust is a non-issue, because there is no fan pumping the dust into the chassis.

 

What Country are you in?

 

PS. please reply as I did above or mention me like this @HairlessMonkeyBoyso that I get a notification when you respond.

BabyBlu (Primary): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3GHz, 5.0GHz all-core, delidded
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000MHz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070MHz core, 8000MHz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ up to 5.0GHz, 4.8Ghz all-core, relidded w/ LM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, w/ Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BigBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28
  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 6700
  • Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133
  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
  • Case: Fractal Design Define 7
  • HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5
  • SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME
  • Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60
  • PSU: Corsair CX450
  • Display: None
  • Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S
  • Keyboard/Mouse: None
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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Uhm...my Casing itself still utilizes case fans. I'm not liquid cooled, but I use several Noctua NF-P12s fans that have SSO-Bearings (https://noctua.at/en/nf-p12) which is said to last for a lifetime, so I'm not bothered replacing case fans. @HairlessMonkeyBoy

I'm from Asia, but i'd rather not say 🙂 

 

Edit: Just found out about this issue on Seasonic Powersupplies. It seems that Focus + series has GPU compatibility issues, but they didn't specify which GPUs...

 

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/seasonic-issues-warning-focus-plus-psu-has-gpu-compatibility-issues,3.html

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