how is my gaming PC after 3 years.

[NaNNNoteK]

Here's a link with all my specs. : https://valid.x86.fr/dv473j

 

I recently bought a single stick of RAM, to complete the slots of my channles and yesterday i got a blue screen with:  PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA. I did something wrong with my RAM channels or what?

 

Any help would be nice :) . Thanks

[jaslion]

So first of all because you have multiple different types and sizes of memory installed you loose dual channel which is a pretty darn big performance hit on ryzen. That and first gen ryzen + ram compatibility is flaky. What do you even need so much ram for? It's a gaming machine 16 is plenty. So take out either the 2 8gb or 2 16gb sticks put the remaining ram in the correct slot and enjoy better performance and stability.

 

With ryzen 1000 the rule has always been try to stick to 2 stick of whatever size you want and 3000mhz or higher with a cap at 3600. Basically still goes till ryzen 5000 where the 2 stick rules becomes a dividable by 2 rule.

 

Small edit to the rule here but it's 2 identical sticks (preferably in a kit those are validated to work together).

[Adam P]

Honestly, IDK. But from experience, try removing some of the ram sticks, like the on you bought, and then try turning the pc on. Or something. Try doing things.

[NaNNNoteK]

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

So first of all because you have multiple different types and sizes of memory installed you loose dual channel which is a pretty darn big performance hit on ryzen. That and first gen ryzen + ram compatibility is flaky. What do you even need so much ram for? It's a gaming machine 16 is plenty. So take out either the 2 8gb or 2 16gb sticks put the remaining ram in the correct slot and enjoy better performance and stability.

 

With ryzen 1000 the rule has always been try to stick to 2 stick of whatever size you want and 3000mhz or higher with a cap at 3600. Basically still goes till ryzen 5000 where the 2 stick rules becomes a dividable by 2 rule.

I need that much of RAM memory for editing video and stuff. like premiere pro and photoshop. Well maybe i'll those 2 stick of 8 gb and i will remain with 32gb of all dual. 

[jaslion]

Just now, NaNNNoteK said:

I need that much of RAM memory for editing video and stuff. like premiere pro and photoshop. Well maybe i'll those 2 stick of 8 gb and i will remain with 32gb of all dual. 

Yeah just use the 2 16gb sticks and see if that helps. So much ram for video editing? If you need that much get another identical kit of the 16gb sticks and hope for the best as it's first gen ryzen. Either way if you do it correctly you should see a 10-20% performance increase because you would be running at 3000mhz and dual channel then

[mahyar]

well you installed you ram wrong in your case you should install a kit in one channel and the other kit in another one

[NaNNNoteK]

Just now, jaslion said:

Yeah just use the 2 16gb sticks and see if that helps. So much ram for video editing? If you need that much get another identical kit of the 16gb sticks and hope for the best as it's first gen ryzen. Either way if you do it correctly you should see a 10-20% performance increase because you would be running at 3000mhz and dual channel then

I'll wait now  to see if it's stable now or i get another blue screen. Thanks for help

[NaNNNoteK]

1 minute ago, mahyar said:

well you installed you ram wrong in your case you should install a kit in one channel and the other kit in another one

yea pretty sure ...

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

Just now, NaNNNoteK said:

I'll wait now  to see if it's stable now or i get another blue screen. Thanks for help

You can use memtest86 to test for memory instability.

 

https://www.memtest86.com/

[jaslion]

Just now, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

You can use memtest86 to test for memory instability.

 

https://www.memtest86.com/

This too if it crashes again. Probably not a broken module but it's a nice to have

[mahyar]

Just now, NaNNNoteK said:

yea pretty sure ...

you are doing 16 8 8 16

it should be 8 16 8 16 or 16 8 16 8

[NaNNNoteK]

1 minute ago, mahyar said:

you are doing 16 8 8 16

it should be 8 16 8 16 or 16 8 16 8

ok i'll try that soon. Thanks for remind me.

[NaNNNoteK]

2 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

You can use memtest86 to test for memory instability.

 

https://www.memtest86.com/

Trying now to see what happens.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

Just now, mahyar said:

you are doing 16 8 8 16

it should be 8 16 8 16 or 16 8 16 8

The first is obviously terrible. The second would get you full dual channel with mixed dimms per channel, and potentially poor compatibility.

 

16 16 8 8

- or -

8 8 16 16

 

The above would get you matched dimms per channel for better compatibility, but only 32GB of dual channel with another 16GB single channel.

[jaslion]

5 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

The first is obviously terrible. The second would get you full dual channel with mixed dimms per channel, and potentially poor compatibility.

 

16 16 8 8

- or -

8 8 16 16

 

The above would get you matched dimms per channel for better compatibility, but only 32GB of dual channel with another 16GB single channel.

Ryzen 1000 is iffy about mixed ram dual channel as in it tends to be like "oh a different stick even tho I worked dual channel with the others before? Time to be single" even tho it should technically work. You can try but success is limited to say the least

[Mooshi]

23 minutes ago, jaslion said:

So first of all because you have multiple different types and sizes of memory installed you loose dual channel which is a pretty darn big performance hit on ryzen. That and first gen ryzen + ram compatibility is flaky. What do you even need so much ram for? It's a gaming machine 16 is plenty. So take out either the 2 8gb or 2 16gb sticks put the remaining ram in the correct slot and enjoy better performance and stability.

 

With ryzen 1000 the rule has always been try to stick to 2 stick of whatever size you want and 3000mhz or higher with a cap at 3600. Basically still goes till ryzen 5000 where the 2 stick rules becomes a dividable by 2 rule.

 

Small edit to the rule here but it's 2 identical sticks (preferably in a kit those are validated to work together).

 

You don't know what all OP does with their PC or plans on doing. Not all gaming PCs are used solely for gaming. If you want to run VMs or servers, 16GB can feel limiting.

 

As for Ryzen first gen, I went back to Intel for this reason. Original 32GB upgrade (as in an actual 32GB 2x16 kit to replace a 2x8 one) didn't even work. Popped it into the 6700k build and now it has 32GB. Ryzen first gen is too picky for ram even with the latest BIOS updates.

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, Mooshi said:

 

You don't know what all OP does with their PC or plans on doing. Not all gaming PCs are usef soley for gaming. If you want to run VMs or servers, 16GB can feel limiting.

He explained what he wanted to do in another post and I have adjusted my recommendation accordingly.

[DoctorNick]

This is your issue: 

slot 1 pair with slot 3, slot 2 pair with slot 4 (8+8),(16+16)

[NaNNNoteK]

After some tests aprox: 10 min.

[NaNNNoteK]

file:///C:/Users/Dennis/Desktop/RAMMon%20-%20SPD%20Info.html

[LogicalDrm]

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