I want to upgrade RAM but people give me 2 diffrent answers

[podkall]

I want to upgrade to 16GB RAM because higher is too expensive.

 

Currently I have 8GB (4+4)

 

And the plan was to buy 16GB RAM because some time later I can buy another one to make it 32.

 

Some say I should just buy the 16GB RAM and others say I should buy 16GB kit 8+8GB, because dual channel is faster..

 

One way is more expensive and removes the easy upgrade potential for more speed.

 

Other one sacrifices speed but costs less and you can upgrade easier and cheaper.

 

How much good is dual channel? What exactly does it speed up? (does it increase fps?)

 

Is it worth the money for someone who doesn't care if he has 120 fps or 140 fps because his monitor is only 64Hz?

 

What do you think? I have hard time choosing between 2 options if the details are not deep...

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

Please list your full specs.

[Flapjack30]

If you actually plan on upgrading in the future, I would just buy the single stick of 16Gb right now. If you don't see yourself upgrading for awhile, might be worth it to just get the two 8Gb sticks.

[Kid.Lazer]

Always, always, ALWAYS use a dual channel memory configuration. Either save your money and buy the 32GB kit now if you really think you need it, or get the 16GB kit and upgrade later at greater expense.

[podkall]

Just now, Flapjack30 said:

If you actually plan on upgrading in the future, I would just buy the single stick of 16Gb right now. If you don't see yourself upgrading for awhile, might be worth it to just get the two 8Gb sticks.

I believe it's better to buy the single 16GB because my Motherboard supports maximum 32GB of Memory.

Do you agree?

[podkall]

1 minute ago, Kid.Lazer said:

Always, always, ALWAYS use a dual channel memory configuration. Either save your money and buy the 32GB kit now if you really think you need it, or get the 16GB kit and upgrade later at greater expense.

Why why WHY do I need dual channel memory configuration? Does using single config make me go from 100 fps to 1? Is it gonna throttle my PSU? Is it going to prevent me from taking my dog for a walk?

[Flapjack30]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

Why why WHY do I need dual channel memory configuration? Does using single config make me go from 100 fps to 1? Is it gonna throttle my PSU? Is it going to prevent me from taking my dog for a walk?

yea I'm not sure I agree with Kid.Lazer for this case. Yes it is better performance wise, but he did state he doesn't NEED to be at the edge of performance for his case.

[Flapjack30]

2 minutes ago, podkall said:

Why why WHY do I need dual channel memory configuration? Does using single config make me go from 100 fps to 1? Is it gonna throttle my PSU? Is it going to prevent me from taking my dog for a walk?

Again, only if you ARE going to upgrade to 32 later. If not, get the 2 8Gb sticks.

[podkall]

3 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

Please list your full specs.

Fine, if I list full specs is the only way you can help?

 

Ryzen 3 1200

ASUS PRIME B450-M

HyperX Fury 4+4GB

GTX 1050

700W PSU

1TB HDD

128GB SSD

stock CPU cooler

1 Case fan

64Hz Monitor

Cheap gaming mouse and keyboard

Wood Table

 

If I missed anything tell me...

[podkall]

Just now, Flapjack30 said:

Again, only if you ARE going to upgrade to 32 later. If not, get the 2 8Gb sticks.

I'll eventually upgrade to 32 GB it might take 5 years but maybe some programs I might use need lot of RAM who knows

[Eighjan]

6 minutes ago, podkall said:

I'll eventually upgrade to 32 GB it might take 5 years but maybe some programs I might use need lot of RAM who knows

If you want optimum performance from your system, ALWAYS use RAM in a dual-channel configuration; 1x 16GB will NOT perform as well as 2x 8GB.

Unless you know you can get 100% guarantee to get exactly the same 2x 8GB kit as the one you buy 'now' - at a later date - you're always better off getting however much RAM you want to use as a 2-stick kit.

 

Also; bear in mind that DDR4 may have been supplanted by (at least) DDR5 as mainstrteam in 5 years time... so you may not be able to add another 16GB that economically.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

4 minutes ago, podkall said:

Fine, if I list full specs is the only way you can help?

 

Ryzen 3 1200

ASUS PRIME B450-M

HyperX Fury 4+4GB

GTX 1050

700W PSU

1TB HDD

128GB SSD

stock CPU cooler

1 Case fan

64Hz Monitor

Cheap gaming mouse and keyboard

Wood Table

 

If I missed anything tell me...

 

2 minutes ago, podkall said:

I'll eventually upgrade to 32 GB it might take 5 years but maybe some programs I might use need lot of RAM who knows

Just get a kit of 2x8GB if you don't have a specific need for 32GB. Your system will benefit much more from dual channel.

[Tristerin]

OP - the advice in this thread is good.  I agree with:

 

Dual Channel is a must unless you hate yourself and dont mind driving around in a Ryzen 1 800 (this is typed on purpose)

 

With 4 DIMMS there is no upgrade path you currently have.  The 4x4 isnt an upgrade path unless you start getting into 8 DIMM workstations, then you wouldnt likely be using 4gb modules anyways.

 

Sometimes you just end up with extra RAM - sell it!

[podkall]

Just now, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

 

Just get a kit of 2x8GB if you don't have a specific need for 32GB. Your system will benefit much more from dual channel.

"your sistem will benefit more from dual channel" in what context?

Why do I need that extra benefit? Am I a overclocking competetor that needs every bit of processing power every tick of hertz?

How does loading chrome 2 seconds faster worth paying more and not having room for final RAM upgrade?

 

 

4 minutes ago, Eighjan said:

If you want optimum performance from your system, ALWAYS use RAM in a dual-channel configuration; 1x 16GB will NOT perform as well as 2x 8GB.

Unless you know you can get 100% guarantee to get exactly the same 2x 8GB kit as the one you buy 'now' - at a later date - you're always better off getting however much RAM you want to use as a 2-stick kit.

What is "optimum performance" ?

Are you guys just telling me that just because everyone is doing dual channel I should too?

Is it because it actually gives 50 more fps?

What is the benefit of dual channel??

[podkall]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

OP - the advice in this thread is good.  I agree with:

 

Dual Channel is a must unless you hate yourself and dont mind driving around in a Ryzen 1 800 (this is typed on purpose)

 

With 4 DIMMS there is no upgrade path you currently have.  The 4x4 isnt an upgrade path unless you start getting into 8 DIMM workstations, then you wouldnt likely be using 4gb modules anyways.

 

Sometimes you just end up with extra RAM - sell it!

It's not 4 DIMMS it's 4GB per dimm it's 2 slots max on Motherboard

[Eighjan]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

"your sistem will benefit more from dual channel" in what context?

Why do I need that extra benefit? Am I a overclocking competetor that needs every bit of processing power every tick of hertz?

How does loading chrome 2 seconds faster worth paying more and not having room for final RAM upgrade?

 

 

What is "optimum performance" ?

Are you guys just telling me that just because everyone is doing dual channel I should too?

Is it because it actually gives 50 more fps?

What is the benefit of dual channel??

Do you fully understand what DDR means...?

[podkall]

1 minute ago, Eighjan said:

Do you fully understand what DDR means...?

Double data rate....

If I use single link does it cut my fps in half or what?

[Eighjan]

2 minutes ago, podkall said:

Double data rate....

If I use single link does it cut my fps in half or what?

You will be using whatever single stick of RAM you choose to use in the machine at less than full speed for ALL of the machine's tasks... not JUST gaming.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

3 minutes ago, Eighjan said:

Do you fully understand what DDR means...?

Lol do you? "Double Data Rate" and "Dual Channel" are separate and distinct concepts. 

 

1 minute ago, podkall said:

Double data rate....

If I use single link does it cut my fps in half or what?

OP, go waste your money if you want to FFS.

[podkall]

1 minute ago, Eighjan said:

You will be using whatever single stick of RAM you choose to use in the machine at less than full speed for ALL of the machine's tasks.

elaborate

[podkall]

1 minute ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

Lol do you? "Double Data Rate" and "Dual Channel" are separate and distinct concepts. 

 

OP, go waste your money if you want to FFS.

I don't have money to waste

[Eighjan]

2 minutes ago, podkall said:

elaborate

As @HairlessMonkeyBoy imferred - there's no point elaborating because you seem to have started this topic to get others to reinforce what you're going to do anyway.

Ask advice because you DON'T know what to do... not because you want someone else to confirm YOUR decision.

[Tristerin]

13 minutes ago, podkall said:

It's not 4 DIMMS it's 4GB per dimm it's 2 slots max on Motherboard

 

 

 

28 minutes ago, podkall said:

Fine, if I list full specs is the only way you can help?

 

HyperX Fury 4+4GB

 

 

One of these things is not like the other

 

Honestly you have a bad attitude in this thread.  There are plenty of VERY knowledgeable people here already helping - Im ducking out.

[Brooksie359]

14 minutes ago, podkall said:

"your sistem will benefit more from dual channel" in what context?

Why do I need that extra benefit? Am I a overclocking competetor that needs every bit of processing power every tick of hertz?

How does loading chrome 2 seconds faster worth paying more and not having room for final RAM upgrade?

 

 

What is "optimum performance" ?

Are you guys just telling me that just because everyone is doing dual channel I should too?

Is it because it actually gives 50 more fps?

What is the benefit of dual channel??

While I won't say that single channel is the end all be all I will say its worth getting the dual channel kit now. If you need to upgrade to 32 gb in 5 years because your system requires it by that time you might as well upgrade your whole system and ddr5 would be mainstream making the idea of upgrading to 32 gbs of ddr4 ram pointless. And if you truly need 32gb of ram fairly soon from now then just buy a 2x16 gb kit now as they are fairly cheap right now. 

[podkall]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

While I won't say that single channel is the end all be all I will say its worth getting the dual channel kit now. If you need to upgrade to 32 gb in 5 years because your system requires it by that time you might as well upgrade your whole system and ddr5 would be mainstream making the idea of upgrading to 32 gbs of ddr4 ram pointless. And if you truly need 32gb of ram fairly soon from now then just buy a 2x16 gb kit now as they are fairly cheap right now. 

You might be the first answer with context instead of empty facts that don't brighten my lightbulb like yours does...