Posted January 17, 2021 Hi all, I'm a bit confused about the best ram configuration for my 5950X build. I'm interested in getting 32GB at 3600MHz. I was ready to get 2 sticks as I always do, but I've also read there might be an advantage to 4 sticks with Ryzen. I'm considering these two from G.Skill: F4-3600C16D-32GTZN 2X16 F4-3600C16Q-32GTZN 4X8 Which is the best way to go? I'm not planning on upgrading ram in the future. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 17, 2021 If you aren't planning on upgrading in the future, go for 4x8, but if you're buying a 5950x, I'd just go all out and get 4x16, but that's just me. My Desktop: CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming (for gamers) RAM: 4x16 GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200 MHz GPU: ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2060 Super OC SSDs: Samsung 980 Pro (1TB), 870 Evo (1 TB), 860 Evo (1 TB), 860 Evo (500 GB) HDD: Seagate Barracuda Compute (8 TB) PSU: Corsair RMx 1000W w/ CableMod cables OS: Windows 10 Pro Case: Corsair SPEC-06 RGB Monitors: LG 34GL750-B, Samsung CF591 Pegasus (Server): CPU: AMD EPYC Rome 7282 CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S TR4-SP3 Motherboard: SuperMicro H12SSL-CT RAM: 4x16 GB Samsung 3200 MHz DDR4 ECC (M393A2K40DB3-CWE) GPU: PNY NVIDIA Quadro P2200 SSDs: Samsung 970 Evo (1 TB), WD Red SA500 (1 TB), SanDisk Ultra 3D (500 GB) HDDs: 5x Seagate IronWolf NAS 8TB HBA: Avago LSI 9211-8i PSU: Athena Power AP-RRPS2K20 OS: unRAID Chassis: Rosewill RSV-L4500 Chassis Fans: 6x Noctua F12 PWM, 2x Noctua A8 PWM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Des.nb said: . depending on how much ram you'll actually need 4x8 or 4x16 5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc) 1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW 9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll 6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Des.nb said: Which is the best way to go? 7 minutes ago, xg32 said: depending on how much ram you'll actually need 4x8 or 4x16 These are not the only factors to consider. Ryzen 5000 works best with 2x dual rank (2x16GB), though performance is verrryyy similar on 4x single rank dimms, at least from what I've seen - someone please correct me if I'm wrong because I might have mixed things up (apologies if I did). So: go for 2x16 for better performance and an option to upgrade in the future. To be honest with you @Des.nb: if you're buying a 5950X you might just as well go for 64GB, since I bet you're going to be doing some serious work on that thing and capacity > performance in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 17, 2021 Aha! I believe I was correct: Watch this vid, I think it's going to explain thing nicely from the couple of minutes I've seen so far @Des.nb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, gal-m said: . he'd have to physically see the 16gb sticks to be 100% sure they are dual rank. The only surefire way is getting 4 sticks, and 8gb sticks can tune alot better to maximize the cpu if he doesn't need 64gb ram. 5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc) 1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW 9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll 6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, xg32 said: he'd have to physically see the 16gb sticks to be 100% sure they are dual rank Not really.. some online stores actually have this information displayed. Even better: ASUS motherboards have a nice handy dandy QVL pdf spreadsheet for official RAM compatibility, which includes rank specs. He just has to CTRL+C the exact RAM, CTRL+F and CTRL+V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 17, 2021 I saw noticeable gains going from two single rank to four single ranks. Get the tightest sets you can afford and enjoy AMD R7 5800X3D | Thermalright Aqua Elite 360, 3x TL- C12 Pro, 2x TL-K12, SYY-157 Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | 4 x 8GB G.Skill Trident Z Mix @ 3733 14-14-14-34 1.5v Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC @ 3045/1495 | WD SN850, SN850X, 2x SN770, Asus Hyper M.2 EVGA SuperNova 750w | Fractal Torrent Compact | 1x Phanteks T30, 1x TL-B12, 1x TY-143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 17, 2021 Just now, freeagent said: saw noticeable gains going from two single rank to four single ranks. Definitely. Basically, it's optimal to have FOUR ranks in total, so: 4xsingle or 2xdual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2021 Author 15 hours ago, gal-m said: These are not the only factors to consider. Ryzen 5000 works best with 2x dual rank (2x16GB), though performance is verrryyy similar on 4x single rank dimms, at least from what I've seen - someone please correct me if I'm wrong because I might have mixed things up (apologies if I did). So: go for 2x16 for better performance and an option to upgrade in the future. To be honest with you @Des.nb: if you're buying a 5950X you might just as well go for 64GB, since I bet you're going to be doing some serious work on that thing and capacity > performance in that case. Thanks, didn't know it works best with 2x dual rank. I started this thread because I saw reports on possible advantage to 4 sticks. Specifically Gamers Nexus video on the subject. Didn't know about Hardware Canucks video. 15 hours ago, ALLSTAR1JAC2899 said: If you aren't planning on upgrading in the future, go for 4x8, but if you're buying a 5950x, I'd just go all out and get 4x16, but that's just me. I might go eventually with 64GB but the issue is the same - 4 sticks vs 2 sticks. You think that 4 single rank preforms better than 2 dual rank? 14 hours ago, freeagent said: I saw noticeable gains going from two single rank to four single ranks. Get the tightest sets you can afford and enjoy One more vote for 4. I've checked the QVL for the motherboard I'm going with - Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero and the QVL on G.Skill. The QVL for the motherboard only includes the 4 sticks version F4-3600C16Q-32GTZN 4X8. However, the QVL of both versions from G.Skill, include the motherboard. So no issue with compatibility for either version. I edited the first post to add a poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Des.nb said: You think that 4 single rank preforms better than 2 dual rank? @Des.nb you can actually remove the poll, because it doesn't matter. Hardware Canucks reported 2x dual rank is a bit better, but I mean.. we're talking about a 1% performance difference. The point is: to maximize performance (on Ryzen 5000) you need to make sure you have 4 ranks of memory installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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