You Can't Buy This CPU... Yet - AMD Threadripper Pro

[jakkuh_t]

 

[WhitetailAni]

Linus Drop Tips: When showing your fans the inside of your case, make sure to superglue it to the table so it doesn't fall!

 

EDIT:
Why does the YouTube title not have "AMD Threadripper Pro" in it?

Edited January 16, 2021 by ragnarok0273
title discrepancy

[GDRRiley]

when you make a video too late so half the info is wrong in it.

 

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

EDIT:
Why does the YouTube title not have "AMD Threadripper Pro" in it?

because You can't buy THIS CPU... Yet

[WhitetailAni]

Just now, itswillum said:

because You can't buy THIS CPU... Yet

The YouTube title doesn't tell you what CPU.

[RadiatingLight]

30 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Why does the YouTube title not have "AMD Threadripper Pro" in it?

Part of the clickbait title/thumbnail -- As a company it's a no-brainer since it gets like 25% more views, and the actual video content itself is still roughly the same.

[hui]

@jakkuh_tThe drop link (https://dro.ps/ltt-pan-jan21) seems to be incorrect. It's currently linking to "DROP + THX PANDA WIRELESS HEADPHONE

[Clever AI]

That's a nice coincidence. Does somebody can test with an AMD Threadripper my universe simulation?

Here is the post I recently did about this topic.

[Woodgnome]

I feel like Linus and the team missed what these CPUs are for. They aren't to be compared to Threadripper, but EPYC - this is literally a rebranded EPYC CPU. Compared to Threadripper it has twice the memory bandwidth, higher maximum memory capacity and more PCI Express lanes.

 

So why not just buy an EPYC powered workstation? Because they most often come in rack servers. Threadripper Pro is for the people who want the full power of EPYC in a workstation without the hazzle of building it and quirks of server motherboards.

 

Why limit Threadripper Pro to OEMs only? Threadripper Pro is clocked higher than corresponding EPYC models or significantly cheaper, so they could potentially take away some EPYC sales. Making Threadripper Pro OEM only effectively combats that.

 

Then why make Threadripper Pro available for retail now then? Probably because Zen 3 EPYC is right around the corner and that will create a new segment of CPUs that does not overlap with Threadripper Pro. Zen 3 based EPYCs will be for the server market and Threadripper Pro will remain for the top-of-the-line workstation market for people who don't want to build a Zen 3 EPYC workstation themselves.

[unijab]

4 hours ago, Woodgnome said:

They aren't to be compared to Threadripper, but EPYC - this is literally a rebranded EPYC CPU. Compared to Threadripper it has twice the memory bandwidth, higher maximum memory capacity and more PCI Express lanes.

If it was compared to epyc...

 

They would have the same memory bandwidth, lower maximum ram capacity, and the same pcie lanes...

 

That's why it's compared to tr4... 

[unijab]

4 hours ago, Woodgnome said:

Threadripper Pro to OEMs only

It won't be limited to oem only much longer

[power666]

This would be an interesting platform if we weren't so close to general availability of Zen 3 based Epyc chips (Milan) and the first DDR5/PCIe 5.0 platforms looking like they are 12 to 18 months away.  Buyer's remorse seems to be built into the product.

 

The biggest benefit of Threadripper Pro over Eypc right now is the higher clocks.  Compared to vanilla Threadripper, the main benefit are of course the extra PCIe lanes and memory channels but lose overclocking support.  It just seems like such an odd positioning when AMD already offers single socket only Epyc chips that are already a good fit for the workstation market.    If AMD enabled overclocking, it'd be advantageous for workloads like a CPU based rendering farm where the trade off in stability can be balanced.  Ditto for memory overclocking as Threadripper Pro is limited to DDR4-3200 speeds where as the sweet spot for the more consumer system has shifted to DDR4-3600 or DDR-3733 (and the new AGESA update seems to bring DDR4-3800 stability to Zen3).