Having trouble running XMP Profile.

[Jorikawa]

System : Ryzen 5 1600 1st Gen, B450M DS3H, Samsung Evo as my Bootdrive, Rx580 Xfx as my display and main gpu, Patriot Viper 4x4GB 3000mhz as my ram. 

 

So I'm having trouble with my Ram when overclocking it to it's rated frequency speed of 3000mhz. It may be a common problem, as when I change it to it's rated speeds it blue screens my system of startup. I check to see if it's overclocking my cpu by accident and it's not overclocking the cpu on accident. I tried looking on Youtube where they change the voltage manual. Though I came shorthanded when it crashed my system and had several restarts and changed my system to its default settings. 

[Stahlmann]

Ryzen 1st gen is very picky when it comes to RAM. manually lower the speed 1 or 2 steps and see if it gets more stable then.

[Jorikawa]

1 minute ago, Stahlmann said:

Ryzen 1st gen is very picky when it comes to RAM. manually lower the speed 1 or 2 steps and see if it gets more stable then.

So I'll just try to get it to run at stable 2666mhz or maybe lower or higher since it's running a stable 2133mhz at default? I'll try that and get back too you. 

[Tristerin]

Not only is it picky, thats way over Ryzen first gen spec.  Max supported speed by Gen 0 is 2666mhz.  Your motherboard may support more, but out of the box Ive never had a kit stick past spec with XMP, its all manual overclocking (and I have 2 firestrike links in sig to my two Gen 0 rigs with 3600 and 3200mhz respectively stable)

[LordWk]

Just now, Jorikawa said:

So I'll just try to get it to run at stable 2666mhz or maybe lower or higher since it's running a stable 2133mhz at default? I'll try that and get back too you. 

Try also to update your BIOS. 1st Gen Ryzen improved support for faster RAM via AGESA updates on Motherboard BIOS.

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, Jorikawa said:

So I'll just try to get it to run at stable 2666mhz or maybe lower or higher since it's running a stable 2133mhz at default? I'll try that and get back too you. 

You can shoot for 3000mhz no problem, but its manual overclocking.  I run 3600 and 3200mhz on Gen 0, however it took a long while to get it stable (see links in sig).

 

If you set xmp (to ensure tightest timings available at stock) and manually set 2666mhz you will be stable.

 

If you set XMP and start messing around with frequency, voltages, SOC Voltages (DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST) you can possibly get alot more out of that kit.

[Tristerin]

2 minutes ago, LordWk said:

Try also to update your BIOS. 1st Gen Ryzen improved support for faster RAM via AGESA updates on Motherboard BIOS.

Not exactly.

 

The CPU memory controller is the issue

 

Motherboard Im 99% positive isnt.  While BIOS updates brings more BOARD compatibility (the motherboards memory controller), the cpu memory controller threshold is, and always will be - 2666mhz for this CPU.

[Jorikawa]

10 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Ryzen 1st gen is very picky when it comes to RAM. manually lower the speed 1 or 2 steps and see if it gets more stable then.

I had put my Memory frequency to 2666mhz which is running stable, as my XMP profile to 26.66 multiplier. 

[Stahlmann]

Just now, Jorikawa said:

I had put my Memory frequency to 2666mhz which is running stable, as my XMP profile to 26.66 multiplier. 

You can maybe try setting it higher until it gets unstable again. Maybe 2800 or so will also work.

[Jorikawa]

6 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Not exactly.

 

The CPU memory controller is the issue

 

Motherboard Im 99% positive isnt.  While BIOS updates brings more BOARD compatibility (the motherboards memory controller), the cpu memory controller threshold is, and always will be - 2666mhz for this CPU.

I'm going to upgrade to a better motherboard and cpu for future upgradability, as in a ATX motherboard and a 2nd generation ryzen cpu like Ryzen 5 3600. 

[Tristerin]

5 minutes ago, Jorikawa said:

I'm going to upgrade to a better motherboard and cpu for future upgradability, as in a ATX motherboard and a 2nd generation ryzen cpu like Ryzen 5 3600. 

No worries, the 3000 series would handle that no problem.  The 2000 series however max threshold is 2933mhz (for example) and typically requires manual overclocking to achieve higher - though 3000 may be fine with XMP on that generation.

 

The Gigabyte board is pretty low on features, but the only features it lacks would be extra M.2's or PCIe slots (and would in no way affect typical users) - so technically as long as a BIOS update exists for the board that supports (there will be, its B450) the CPU you only would need to upgrade the CPU not also the board.

 

The board can support up to 3600mhz RAM and still be in spec of the board btw.  (and I just checked, also supports Ryzen 5000 series) - just info sharing

[Jorikawa]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

No worries, the 3000 series would handle that no problem.  The 2000 series however max threshold is 2933mhz (for example) and typically requires manual overclocking to achieve higher - though 3000 may be fine with XMP on that generation.

 

The Gigabyte board is pretty low on features, but the only features it lacks would be extra M.2's or PCIe slots (and would in no way affect typical users) - so technically as long as a BIOS update exists for the board that supports (there will be, its B450) the CPU you only would need to upgrade the CPU not also the board.

 

The board can support up to 3600mhz and still be in spec of the board btw.  (and I just checked, also supports Ryzen 5000 series) - just info sharing

Thanks for the extra information, I'll take this into consideration.