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is it worth it upgrade my i7 6700 to a i5 10400 for gaming?

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1 hour ago, mrigmo said:

Why buy Intel? Just get an AMD  Ryzen 5600X and you’ll be doing better then anything Intel has on the market.

Clearly he is looking for a value option, not the best. A Ryzen 5 5600X is hardly a "value" CPU at $300. A more likely comparison would be a Ryzen 5 3600, but even those are going for $30 more than the i5 10400F on Amazon ($200). Also keep in mind that the Intel CPU will play a lot nicer with his DDR4-2133 than a Ryzen would, so that is another cost consideration.

 

12 minutes ago, happyleonardo14 said:

Did a research from google and i found a  pcbuild website to calculate i7 6700 + rtx 2060 at 1080p bottleneck

Don't look at bottleneck calculators. They are completely useless and I have no idea why they exist whatsoever. For 1080p, you have a nice CPU/GPU combo. The 4c/8t might limit you in more open world games but only about as much as the 2060 would anyway.

 

Cheers.

Im getting 15% bottleneck from pc build with my RTX 2060 + i7 6700

 

I like to play 1080p - 144fps high settings 

 

it's time to upgrade to an i5 10400?

 

 

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You could go for a 9th gen i7, they are still very good CPUs for gaming and wouldn’t have any issues with bottlenecking a 2060

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i7 9700 is about $329

i5 10400 is about $170

 

acording to cpuserbenchmark 

 

i5 10400 is slighty better than an i7 9700 

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13 minutes ago, happyleonardo14 said:

Im getting 15% bottleneck from pc build with my RTX 2060 + i7 6700

 

I like to play 1080p - 144fps high settings 

 

it's time to upgrade to an i5 10400?

 

 

there shoudl be no bottleneck with 6700 and rtx 2060. to answer your question 10400 will be better if you play at 1080p. I would go for AMD at this point.

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Just now, happyleonardo14 said:

acording to cpuserbenchmark 

do not trust those!. 9700 is pretty much equal to 10400 in gaming but it has more cores.

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Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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14 minutes ago, happyleonardo14 said:

Im getting 15% bottleneck from pc build with my RTX 2060 + i7 6700

please for the love of god stop using 'bottleneck calculators'

 

here's how to decide if it's time to upgrade your cpu:

- are your games reaching the framerates you're hoping to get? => dont upgrade.

- is your cpu usage very high in games (>80% on all cores the game is utilizing), and gpu usage not at 100%? => upgrade.

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1 minute ago, SavageNeo said:

do not trust those!. 9700 is pretty much equal to 10400 in gaming but it has more cores.

ok the thing here even if those cpu's are equal i5 10400 is almost half the price compared to an i7 9th gen 

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nope, if all you did is gaming then your 6700 is still very good

Current PC Spec
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 4C8T 
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX
RAM: Adata XPG D50 DDR4 3200 CL16 (XMP)
GPU: Asus Dual RX 580 O4G
Storages: 1x500GB Kingston A2000 M.2 NVME(boot drive) 1X1TB Adata SU800 Ultiamte 2.5 inch Sata3 SSD(Game storage) 1X1TB WD Blue 7200 RPM 3.5 inch Hard drive(game and mass storage)
Case: Montech Air 900 Mesh Mid-Tower ATX case
PSU: Delta GPS-500EB 80+ Bronze Non-Modular power supply
Case Fans: 4X Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 RGB fan, 2x 140mm Cooler Master A14-025

Keyboard: Ducky Zero 3108 Cherry MX red
Mouse: Logitech G603 LightSpeed
Headphone: Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
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Just now, mrigmo said:

Why buy Intel? Just get an AMD  Ryzen 5600X and you’ll be doing better then anything Intel has on the market.

bro that cpu is out of stock from almost any official website thanks to scalpers, and I just want to spend no more than $350 cpu + motherboard that why I was planning to buy an i5 10400 

 

ryzen 5600x + motheboard it probably cost more than  $500 - $530 thanks to scalpers and I just interested in gaming performance but I think Im gonna stay with the i7 6700 until 12th generetion intel. 

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Just now, happyleonardo14 said:

until 12th generetion intel. 

I would not count on Intel really beating AMd at this point.

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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2 minutes ago, happyleonardo14 said:

bro that cpu is out of stock from almost any official website thanks to scalpers, and I just want to spend no more than $350 cpu + motherboard that why I was planning to buy an i5 10400 

 

ryzen 5600x + motheboard it probably cost more than  $500 - $530 thanks to scalpers and I just interested in gaming performance but I think Im gonna stay with the i7 6700 until 12th generetion intel. 

there's no need, your 6700 is still very capable, and for the most majority of games 4C8T is enough

Current PC Spec
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 4C8T 
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX
RAM: Adata XPG D50 DDR4 3200 CL16 (XMP)
GPU: Asus Dual RX 580 O4G
Storages: 1x500GB Kingston A2000 M.2 NVME(boot drive) 1X1TB Adata SU800 Ultiamte 2.5 inch Sata3 SSD(Game storage) 1X1TB WD Blue 7200 RPM 3.5 inch Hard drive(game and mass storage)
Case: Montech Air 900 Mesh Mid-Tower ATX case
PSU: Delta GPS-500EB 80+ Bronze Non-Modular power supply
Case Fans: 4X Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 RGB fan, 2x 140mm Cooler Master A14-025

Keyboard: Ducky Zero 3108 Cherry MX red
Mouse: Logitech G603 LightSpeed
Headphone: Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
Microphone: AVerMedia AM310

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2 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

I would not count on Intel really beating AMd at this point.

We'll see what happens I'm open to buying both amd and intel as long as there are units available on official sites and not from scalpers, thanks for the help bro

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Just now, Morris_lee_9116 said:

there's no need, your 6700 is still very capable, and for the most majority of games 4C8T is enough

thanks for the help

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Just now, happyleonardo14 said:

thanks for the help

i checked your spec list in your profile, I would upgrade that R9 Nano to something more modern like modern mid tier GPU at MSRP prices(yes I know scalpers and stuff but one day it will reach there; or maybe you can use that money to treat yourself with a high performance wireless mouse or maybe a low latency wireless gaming headset

Current PC Spec
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 4C8T 
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX
RAM: Adata XPG D50 DDR4 3200 CL16 (XMP)
GPU: Asus Dual RX 580 O4G
Storages: 1x500GB Kingston A2000 M.2 NVME(boot drive) 1X1TB Adata SU800 Ultiamte 2.5 inch Sata3 SSD(Game storage) 1X1TB WD Blue 7200 RPM 3.5 inch Hard drive(game and mass storage)
Case: Montech Air 900 Mesh Mid-Tower ATX case
PSU: Delta GPS-500EB 80+ Bronze Non-Modular power supply
Case Fans: 4X Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 RGB fan, 2x 140mm Cooler Master A14-025

Keyboard: Ducky Zero 3108 Cherry MX red
Mouse: Logitech G603 LightSpeed
Headphone: Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
Microphone: AVerMedia AM310

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16 minutes ago, happyleonardo14 said:

bro that cpu is out of stock from almost any official website thanks to scalpers, and I just want to spend no more than $350 cpu + motherboard that why I was planning to buy an i5 10400 

 

ryzen 5600x + motheboard it probably cost more than  $500 - $530 thanks to scalpers and I just interested in gaming performance but I think Im gonna stay with the i7 6700 until 12th generetion intel. 

I have a 3800x and you can still find the 3xxx cpus everywhere. If you upgrade your cpu you’ll have to get an Intel motherboard too which will be the same or more. 

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19 minutes ago, Morris_lee_9116 said:

i checked your spec list in your profile, I would upgrade that R9 Nano to something more modern like modern mid tier GPU at MSRP prices(yes I know scalpers and stuff but one day it will reach there; or maybe you can use that money to treat yourself with a high performance wireless mouse or maybe a low latency wireless gaming headset

His profile is out of date, read the first post its a i7 6700 with a RTX 2060 :P.

 

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6 minutes ago, Morris_lee_9116 said:

i checked your spec list in your profile, I would upgrade that R9 Nano to something more modern like modern mid tier GPU at MSRP prices(yes I know scalpers and stuff but one day it will reach there; or maybe you can use that money to treat yourself with a high performance wireless mouse or maybe a low latency wireless gaming headset

I upgrade my r9 nano to a RTX 2060 I forgot to upgrade my profile, thanks for the help again.

 

  I don't support scalpers I only pay retail prices  ryzen 5 5600x is a great cpu Unfortunately, this great benefit is lost with the price increase of the scalpers, I will wait more with this cpu (i7 6700)  that still works quite well.

 

thank you 

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2 minutes ago, happyleonardo14 said:

I upgrade my r9 nano to a RTX 2060 I forgot to upgrade my profile, thanks for the help again.

 

  I don't support scalpers I only pay retail prices  ryzen 5 5600x is a great cpu Unfortunately, this great benefit is lost with the price increase of the scalpers, I will wait more with this cpu (i7 6700)  that still works quite well.

 

thank you 

i see, wireless mouse and headset it is then

Current PC Spec
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 4C8T 
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX
RAM: Adata XPG D50 DDR4 3200 CL16 (XMP)
GPU: Asus Dual RX 580 O4G
Storages: 1x500GB Kingston A2000 M.2 NVME(boot drive) 1X1TB Adata SU800 Ultiamte 2.5 inch Sata3 SSD(Game storage) 1X1TB WD Blue 7200 RPM 3.5 inch Hard drive(game and mass storage)
Case: Montech Air 900 Mesh Mid-Tower ATX case
PSU: Delta GPS-500EB 80+ Bronze Non-Modular power supply
Case Fans: 4X Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 RGB fan, 2x 140mm Cooler Master A14-025

Keyboard: Ducky Zero 3108 Cherry MX red
Mouse: Logitech G603 LightSpeed
Headphone: Audio-Technica ATH-M20x
Microphone: AVerMedia AM310

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3 minutes ago, mrigmo said:

I have a 3800x and you can still find the 3xxx cpus everywhere. If you upgrade your cpu you’ll have to get an Intel motherboard too which will be the same or more. 

I did't know that, in your case that you already have the compatible motherboard things change completely

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Maybe it would be better to post this separately, as an i7 6700+RTX2060 user myself i can say that this combo is very well balanced, if you want more FPS then i suggest not to waste money now but, rather raise it for a new system (well more like CPU+MOBO+RAM+GPU Combo, the rest of your hardware is fine).

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1 hour ago, happyleonardo14 said:

Im getting 15% bottleneck from pc build with my RTX 2060 + i7 6700

 

I like to play 1080p - 144fps high settings 

 

it's time to upgrade to an i5 10400?

 

 

no way you are getting bottleneck with 6700,how did you figure out you have bottleneck?

I have 6700K and that CPU is  good enough for games still.and I play even at 1440p...

So please explain me how did you manage to find you have bottleneck.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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Probably looked at the useless userbenchtrash

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26 minutes ago, frozensun said:

no way you are getting bottleneck with 6700,how did you figure out you have bottleneck?

I have 6700K and that CPU is  good enough for games still.and I play even at 1440p...

So please explain me how did you manage to find you have bottleneck.

Did a research from google and i found a  pcbuild website to calculate i7 6700 + rtx 2060 at 1080p bottleneck

 

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Core_i7-6700/GeForce_RTX_2060/0FU137lu/#:~:text=Intel Core i7-6700 (Clock,10% is considered as bottleneck.

 

also I did a research on youtube I saw that i5 10400f (slightly less performance against a regular i5 10400) got better performance in almost any game against i7 6700k around 20-30fps more so i tought It would be more difference with my cpu in performance  i7 6700 not "k"

 

the reason I was planing to upgrade is because I found a great price i5 10400 + b460m motherboard for only $270.

 

 

 

 

 

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