Have 32gb ram, however almost every game uses less than 3gb!!!

[Sararrr]

Why my computer uses low amount of ram in games when I have 32gb ? Plus most games use half vram also even tho gpu is at 100 % usage.
Drivers up to date.
Pc not overheating, gpu 60-74C 
Same with cpu. So as example like apex legends recomended ram 8gb ram, but it uses 1-2gb makes no sense. My pc i7-8700k and gpu 1080ti in my sense good balance. 

Windows 10

Virtual memory is off.

Any ideas?

Edited December 24, 2020 by Sararrr
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[Middcore]

There is not a game currently made that can use 32GB of RAM. 

 

Unless you are seeing some actual shortfall in game performance I'm not sure why you're worried about this. 

[SansVarnic]

3 minutes ago, Sararrr said:

Why my computer uses low amount of ram in games when I have 32gb ? Plus most games use half vram also even tho gpu is at 100 % usage.
Drivers up to date.
Pc not overheating, gpu 60-74C 
Same with cpu. So as example like apex legends recomended ram 8gb ram, but it uses 1-2gb makes no sense. My pc i7-8700k and gpu 1080ti in my sense good balance.

Any ideas?

Recommend doesnt always mean that it will be used, your pc uses a combination of virtual and physical memory.

The system you have goes into account on how the resources are utilized.

VRAM on the GPU is not used in the same manner as your Physical and Virtual RAM.

[Wh0_Am_1]

6 minutes ago, Sararrr said:

Why my computer uses low amount of ram in games when I have 32gb ? Plus most games use half vram also even tho gpu is at 100 % usage.
Drivers up to date.
Pc not overheating, gpu 60-74C 
Same with cpu. So as example like apex legends recomended ram 8gb ram, but it uses 1-2gb makes no sense. My pc i7-8700k and gpu 1080ti in my sense good balance. 

Windows 10

Virtual memory is off.

Any ideas?

So the reason why Apex wants 8 is your system wants 4GB of RAM to run by default your computer will want to share 2GB of RAM with your GPU, and your game will eat 1 to 2GB, leading to a lack of RAM, which is why it is good to have 16 to leave headroom. Unless you have multiple programs running at once, are running large video or render programs, have 10 billion tabs open like me, or are doing some other demanding task, you will likely not need more than 16GB of RAM for quite a while yet.

[Sararrr]

3 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

So the reason why Apex wants 8 is your system wants 4GB of RAM to run by default your computer will want to share 2GB of RAM with your GPU, and your game will eat 1 to 2GB, leading to a lack of RAM, which is why it is good to have 16 to leave headroom. Unless you have multiple programs running at once, are running large video or render programs, have 10 billion tabs open like me, or are doing some other demanding task, you will likely not need more than 16GB of RAM for quite a while yet.

but what it doesnt make sense for me that if gpu eats up most demanding side if pc can handle why it doesnt uses more if it can?

[Wh0_Am_1]

1 minute ago, Sararrr said:

but what it doesnt make sense for me that if gpu eats up most demanding side if pc can handle why it doesnt uses more if it can?

If you have the settings turned up, and the textures fully loaded and everything is fully loaded, then there is simply nothing more that it can put in the RAM. It doesn't toss anything more in, because there is no reason to.

[Sararrr]

2 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

If you have the settings turned up, and the textures fully loaded and everything is fully loaded, then there is simply nothing more that it can put in the RAM. It doesn't toss anything more in, because there is no reason to.

in nutshell, isnt more ram helps cpu make process faster?

[Wh0_Am_1]

1 minute ago, Sararrr said:

in nutshell, isnt more ram helps cpu make process faster?

Yes, in programs that can utilize it such as web browsers, items can be prefetched and cached in RAM, where the CPU would otherwise need to go to the storage drive or the internet. But not every program has the need/ability to do this. Generally speaking though, games often have no need and/or reason to store this in RAM, so they don't.

[Sararrr]

10 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Yes, in programs that can utilize it such as web browsers, items can be prefetched and cached in RAM, where the CPU would otherwise need to go to the storage drive or the internet. But not every program has the need/ability to do this. Generally speaking though, games often have no need and/or reason to store this in RAM, so they don't.

so in sense , if program is not optimized well to utilize most vram or ram will not use more than it needs and only way make program run better if your clock speeds are higher, ye?

[Wh0_Am_1]

6 hours ago, Sararrr said:

so in sense , if program is not optimized well to utilize most vram or ram will not use more than it needs and only way make program run better if your clock speeds are higher, ye?

Not necessarily, so first to understand RAM is a large semi-fast cache of data whose whole purpose is to help keep the CPU constantly fed, there are three faster and significantly smaller levels of cache on the CPU directly but it is significantly faster to load something from RAM for misses or loading to higher cache levels than a solid state drive, a hard disk drive, or the internet. As far as RAM goes beyond a small improvement in caching, and clock speeds, and arrangement, there is little that you can do to help with in RAM upgrades, as long as you have enough of it and it is fast enough to properly keep the CPU fed. (and GPU in the case of VRAM)

And clock speed is not everything, it's merely how fast a CPU or GPU can complete a cycle of predetermined size and computations, your RAM can respond and send a requested instruction and etc. do note (all for CPUs and GPUs), instructions per clock , architecture differences, *cores and even things such as cache arrangement in the case of Zen 4 can lead to major performance improvements. So, do your research.

 

*as far as cores go it is only going to help if the program is optimize to use enough of them, or to run things in the background such as your OS beyond that, generally more cores are not that helpful.

[Sararrr]

On 12/24/2020 at 11:11 AM, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Not necessarily, so first to understand RAM is a large semi-fast cache of data whose whole purpose is to help keep the CPU constantly fed, there are three faster and significantly smaller levels of cache on the CPU directly but it is significantly faster to load something from RAM for misses or loading to higher cache levels than a solid state drive, a hard disk drive, or the internet. As far as RAM goes beyond a small improvement in caching, and clock speeds, and arrangement, there is little that you can do to help with in RAM upgrades, as long as you have enough of it and it is fast enough to properly keep the CPU fed. (and GPU in the case of VRAM)

And clock speed is not everything, it's merely how fast a CPU or GPU can complete a cycle of predetermined size and computations, your RAM can respond and send a requested instruction and etc. do note (all for CPUs and GPUs), instructions per clock , architecture differences, *cores and even things such as cache arrangement in the case of Zen 4 can lead to major performance improvements. So, do your research.

 

*as far as cores go it is only going to help if the program is optimize to use enough of them, or to run things in the background such as your OS beyond that, generally more cores are not that helpful.

with clock speed I meant through all components gpu and cpu including, but you answered really detailed like I thought, thank  you. Just after long time I just seen that some games use much less ram than it use to, and my computer just had just few changes  and the amount of ram usage dropped is huge. Well in sense cpu and gpu changes probably had effect on it, maybe games aswell, drivers update also.. Thank you for your time.