Workers riot at Wistron iPhone plant in India over shorted pay

[Shakymango]

Summary

 

Employees in an iPhone production facility in India became violent on Saturday, over claims workers are not being paid what they were allegedly promised by Apple assembly partner Wistron. 

 

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One staff member alleged an engineering graduate was promised Rs 21,000 ($285) per month, but instead had Rs 16,000 ($217) at first, which then reduced down to Rs 12,000 ($163) in the last three months.

Other employees allegedly had it worse, with one non-engineering graduate's salary cut down to Rs 8,000 ($108), and some claiming to have been paid as little as Rs 500 ($6.78).

 

 

My thoughts

Frankly there isn't much difference between Chinese and Indian factories. People with power and money will continue to treat others like trash. Due to overpopulation and corrupt system, human right mean basically nothing (source: i'm indian). Apple better tighten up those regulations about human rights on India factories or its going to be the same situation as china.

 

Sources

https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/12/12/worker-violence-at-wistron-iphone-plant-in-india-caused-by-low-pay-claims

[lostcattears]

Nah Chinese ones have improved drastically. There are now many more rules now in place. People with money and power treats everyone else like trash everywhere not just India.

[Sarra]

Just now, lostcattears said:

Nah Chinese ones have improved drastically. There are now many more rules now in place. People with money and power treats everyone else like trash everywhere not just India.

That's the damn truth. >_>

[TetraSky]

Imagine working a full month, for less than $7. I'd be PISSED.

[Commodus]

2 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Yep expensive Apple devices totally justified. Thanks for suppprting that company, the lord smiles upon you.

Was waiting for someone to imply this was somehow unique to Apple. You're probably using devices made in similar or worse conditions, just without the scrutiny that Apple often faces.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

35 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Yep expensive Apple devices totally justified. Thanks for suppprting that company, the lord smiles upon you.

Oh man it's like Nvidia, AMD, and Microsoft products all come from some free-range organic manufacturing plant where workers are paid just as much as their white collared counterparts... 

 

Apple is just the tip of the iceberg. Look at the textiles industry. Not only are workers treated like crap, the communities they live in are being destroyed. Toxic waste just dumped into local rivers where residents drink from. 

[williamcll]

Hey I remember this with foxconn years ago.

[dizmo]

Unfortunate, however I think it's very important to point out that this wasn't likely know to Apple, and it isn't caused by them directly. It's nice to think that in an instant Apple can just flick their fingers and everything will be the way it's supposed to be, but that simply isn't the case. Resolving issues like this take time. While I understand being upset, the fact that they destroyed the place they worked at isn't the smartest move. Now not only do they not get paid what they were entitled (which could have been sorted out), they no longer have employment at all.

 

27 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

 I ask Apple to pass down the benefit of cheap labor. Is that fair? It'd be nice if you could answer to the point. 

Apple invests a ton of it's revenue into R&D, and they have rather high overhead. They also want their products to be seen as a premium offering, so they price them as such.

[Jet_ski]

Do we know if the pay differences is due to income tax or not? Anyone know?

 

In some countries what people consider salary is their take home pay not pretax income. Just curious, I’m not saying that’s what happened here. It’s unacceptable for them to underpay people.

[Gaires]

And this is why companies are moving away from China to the places like India and Southeast Asia, labor is cheaper. It sucks for sure, but it's really hard to do something about it since the governments want the jobs, companies want the cheap labour and consumers want the cheap goods.

[Commodus]

8 hours ago, huilun02 said:

Yep. The pricing is. And it isn't implied

 

 I ask Apple to pass down the benefit of cheap labor. Is that fair? It'd be nice if you could answer to the point. 

I'd rather it use its resources to improve that labour, which it typically has been within its powers (see its recent penalty against Pegatron as an example).

 

The disconcerting implication here is that you're happy with poor pay so long as that's passed on through the price of the devices. And, for that matter, that you're alright knowing that your non-Apple brands are typically less transparent and accountable about their labour practices.

 

[sunderamalolan]

18 hours ago, Shakymango said:

Summary

 

Employees in an iPhone production facility in India became violent on Saturday, over claims workers are not being paid what they were allegedly promised by Apple assembly partner Wistron. 

 

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My thoughts

Frankly there isn't much difference between Chinese and Indian factories. People with power and money will continue to treat others like trash. Due to overpopulation and corrupt system, human right mean basically nothing (source: i'm indian). Apple better tighten up those regulations about human rights on India factories or its going to be the same situation as china.

 

Sources

https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/12/12/worker-violence-at-wistron-iphone-plant-in-india-caused-by-low-pay-claims

Lol, I'm from Bangalore and it is just a Communist Union thing. Lesser than 5% of the employees rioted. Don't worry, The production will start again from Monday. They are just having some plan in their mind. Today the union issue is sorted out and they showed the proofs that they were underpaid(due to taking holidays even though instructed to come) and as Wistron has some documents to prove that, the issue was sorted by the local police. 

[Salv8 (sam)]

i like how this has degraded into politics again and is no longer on topic

[SansVarnic]

-= Topic Moved to Off-Topic =-

 

Topic does not meet the definition of Tech News.

 

 

-= Topic locked =-

Topic has devolved off topic into political and cultural bickering.

From what I read in the OP this topic is a fine line for flame bait and forum disruption. 

I see no need to unlock this for further discourse.

Edited December 13, 2020 by SansVarnic

[bl4ckmesa]

Summary

12/12/2020 - Workers riot at the Wistron iPhone plant in India over poor and decreasing wages

 

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Sources told the report the unrest was caused through the workers not receiving the full pay they were told they would be receiving at the time of joining the company. One staff member alleged an engineering graduate was promised Rs 21,000 ($285) per month, but instead had Rs 16,000 ($217) at first, which then reduced down to Rs 12,000 ($163) in the last three months.

 

 

My thoughts

Louis Rossmann brought this to my attention with his YT video titled "Apple slaves REVOLT, destroy factory over $7/month pay".   The $7 a month is the most egregious example but the whole situation embodies one of the problems with current globalization strategies, and perhaps our own indifference to problems of people far away from us. 

 

It does look like Apple has responded in this instance, saying they're not going to do any new business with them; I'll include an article about that as well

 

I'd like to hear about this on the WAN show, personally.

 

Sources

Louis Rossmann's Video:

AppleInsider article:
https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/12/12/worker-violence-at-wistron-iphone-plant-in-india-caused-by-low-pay-claims

 

Apple's Response:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/apple-says-no-new-business-for-supplier-wistron-after-karnataka-plant-violence/articleshow/79812379.cms

[WkdPaul]

@bl4ckmesa this was already posted, your thread was merged.