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ASRock Launches Legacy M.2 Graphics Card

15 minutes ago, sub68 said:

so this is meant for severs to display video not everyday video encoding

pretty much. Though i mught get one when I get a ryzen system, to go with my oddball gpu collection.

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4 hours ago, Senzelian said:

Ohhh this is sick.
Troubleshooting Ryzen CPUs would be so easy with that. F*ck you AMD for not giving us iGPUs!

 

What's the price going to be of one of these?

Its called a APU!

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6 hours ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

so this may be usful for servers w/o a igpu.

This feels like like exactly the point.

 

Many BMC/IPMI implementations are proprietary and built into the motherboard. So this actually saves money for the MB manufacturer by removing the VGA connector from servers that are managed by IMPI or other enterprise management and don't need it. It's clearly not intended to be a GPU for 3D games and stuff, it's barely enough for a 1024x786 framebuffer.

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17 minutes ago, Kisai said:

This feels like like exactly the point.

 

Many BMC/IPMI implementations are proprietary and built into the motherboard. So this actually saves money for the MB manufacturer by removing the VGA connector from servers that are managed by IMPI or other enterprise management and don't need it. It's clearly not intended to be a GPU for 3D games and stuff, it's barely enough for a 1024x786 framebuffer.

Maybe it might give my Nintendo DS Lite a run for it’s money?

 

The website that markets the SM750 makes mention of integration with embedded CPUs such as Xscale, ARM7/9/11 (not Cortex), MIPS, and Renasas SH. Pretty old stuff here. 
 

http://www.siliconmotion.com/EW_Pages/EmbeddedGraphics.html

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2 hours ago, StDragon said:

I fail to see the market appeal of this

Most probably, yes. Asrock wouldn't launch a product that they see as not having (sufficient) market appeal.

 

AMD 5000 series showed that their Zen3 offerings is pretty d@ng good value for money, especially efficiency-wise, and the Threadripper and Epyc ranges are due for an upgrade in the not too distant future. As alluded to previously, this allows Asrock to forego with the VGA connector on their mainboards and for those that need it, this 'videocard' can be used as the alternative and thus save money for Asrock and hopefully their customers. (who now must pay for VGA whether they use it or not)

 

But for right now, it's a gimmick and probably a fair few of these devices will end up with enthusiasts "for their videocard collection". I suspect Linus will buy a couple too, just for making content about it ;) (and probably with another "I've never seen anything like this" title 🙄 )

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7 hours ago, Kilrah said:

It'll probably cost more than an old or low end GPU that can provide more than just a low res VGA port...

That old GPU would also use way, way more than 1.5 watts, though. And space. A lot of space.

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11 hours ago, Kilrah said:

It will not do any better than an iGPU, actually much worse, it has no 3D acceleration whatsoever.

 

It just provides an absolutely basic display output for 2D stuff if you have none, that's all.

doesn't modern windows and some linux desktop environments use hardware acceleration for a quicker response of their gui's?

i know windows past vista do if it's using areo or if it's 8/.1 (not sure about 10, it might use it for some ui shit in the UWP apps or something), linux is more of a toss up thanks to it's many deskop enviroment and window managers.

 

thats not gonna go well, it's good enough for trouble shooting shit but doing anything that needs any hardware acceleration (many apps have it on by default and some don't allow you to turn it off) is gonna be fucked!

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This is great for, say, a DIY ryzen based server.

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7 hours ago, Salv8 (sam) said:

doesn't modern windows and some linux desktop environments use hardware acceleration for a quicker response of their gui's?

i know windows past vista do if it's using areo or if it's 8/.1 (not sure about 10, it might use it for some ui shit in the UWP apps or something), linux is more of a toss up thanks to it's many deskop enviroment and window managers.

 

thats not gonna go well, it's good enough for trouble shooting shit but doing anything that needs any hardware acceleration (many apps have it on by default and some don't allow you to turn it off) is gonna be fucked!

Windows seems to be able to push tasks that are ordinarily hardware accelerated to the CPU if necessary. You can even enable the transparency effects without a GPU driver. It’s slow, but it works. 
 

When DX11 first became a thing, Microsoft also developed a software rasterizer called WARP, which ran DX11 code on the CPU. It was intended to allow the use of DX11 features when the hardware was still scarce, though it was slow going. 

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I might get one for quick video troubleshooting.

Considering that I prefer Ryzen, and most Ryzen chips don't have iGPUs, it would be perfect.

 

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Ooh, This would come in handy for an dashboard wall.

 

At a previous place of employment we had multiple computers driving 9 wall TV's displaying data. 1 computer per 3 displays.

 

With PCI M.2 Expansion slot you could have one PC drive as many displays as it has slots available.

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I see no point in this product. This will only do 2D maybe good enough for one extra console. Maybe for stats display on an lcd? Don't really see the usefulness in this.

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Troubleshooting, especially for CPUs that don't have iGPUs (like most Ryzen chips).

I don't know of any 3D BIOSes, so good for that.

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3 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Troubleshooting, especially for CPUs that don't have iGPUs (like most Ryzen chips).

I don't know of any 3D BIOSes, so good for that.

Server grade no need for that, also legacy/m.2 ain't making much sense together. Ryzen is not server grade.

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Who said anything about servers?
If you think you're dealing with a dead GPU, but your CPU doesn't have an iGPU, you can get one of these to test.

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2 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Who said anything about servers?
If you think you're dealing with a dead GPU, but your CPU doesn't have an iGPU, you can get one of these to test.

Yeah I don't think they're gonna be as cheap as you think, this doesn't look like a high volume production product for debug I bet it will be cheaper to just get an gpu. Maybe laptops?
Who said servers? ASRock.

https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=M2_VGA#Specifications

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I will still get one simply because it's cool.

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1 minute ago, ragnarok0273 said:

I will still get one simply because it's cool.

I think they have something else in mind other than a fashion accessory. Just can't figure out what.

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2 minutes ago, zhnu said:

I think they have something else in mind other than a fashion accessory. Just can't figure out what.

I refuse to comment.

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I think it'd be cool to try and run Half-Life or Unreal on it...

 

Probably wouldn't work, still be stuck to Software rendering..

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How is this "Graphic Card" supposed to work if there are no video connectors on said Board?

 

Matrox does offer PCIe x1 Cards with multiple display connectors. Why not use that instead?

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1 minute ago, whm1974 said:

How is this "Graphic Card" supposed to work if there are no video connectors on said Board?

There is a connector, the header at the end. Obviously it comes with a matching pigtail with the VGA connector. 

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