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Light gaming PC for my mum

dorfdoctor

Budget (including currency): ~ 600€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games: Cities Skylines, Planet Zoo Other programs: Clip studio paint (Drawing program) 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): My mum currently has a laptop but wants something what she can play cities skylines with at more than 20fps. She has peripherals and a monitor. The monitor is 4k (for drawing) but she is ok with playing at 1080p.
I put the following list together and just wanted to ask you if it is any good, or if you have ideas to improve it. 

 

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Looks pretty good. I just switched out the drive for NVME, much faster without much more cost, and the case for a Focus G with one extra fan which should have better air flow.

 

 

BabyBlu (Primary): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3GHz, 5.0GHz all-core, delidded
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000MHz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070MHz core, 8000MHz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ up to 5.0GHz, 4.8Ghz all-core, relidded w/ LM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, w/ Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BigBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28
  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 6700
  • Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133
  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
  • Case: Fractal Design Define 7
  • HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5
  • SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME
  • Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60
  • PSU: Corsair CX450
  • Display: None
  • Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S
  • Keyboard/Mouse: None
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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3 minutes ago, dorfdoctor said:

Budget (including currency): ~ 600€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games: Cities Skylines, Planet Zoo Other programs: Clip studio paint (Drawing program) 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): My mum currently has a laptop but wants something what she can play cities skylines with at more than 20fps. She has peripherals and a monitor. The monitor is 4k (for drawing) but she is ok with playing at 1080p.
I put the following list together and just wanted to ask you if it is any good, or if you have ideas to improve it. 

 

 

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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1 minute ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

Looks pretty good. I just switched out the drive for NVME, much faster without much more cost, and the case for a Focus G with one extra fan which should have better air flow.

 

 

Ok, thank you! The NVME's I found started like 20€ more expensive so I chose the 2.5" SSD. For the case Ill just go with something cheap with as many fans as possible. My mum doesnt care for the aestetics. She will put it in the corner anyways. But I'll keep the Focus G in mind ty!

 

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Just now, Asez23 said:

Ok, Thank you! The HDD isnt neccesary. My mum really doesnt need much storage. Her laptop has 128gb I think and she gets along with that. Two quesions tho:

1) will the 4GB Vram on the 1650 S be enough for the next years? It wont have to run the most graphically intensive games, but Planet Zoo can be quite demanding I feel

2) Does the i3 come with a cooler? or do I need to boy one extra?

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3 minutes ago, dorfdoctor said:

Ok, Thank you! The HDD isnt neccesary. My mum really doesnt need much storage. Her laptop has 128gb I think and she gets along with that. Two quesions tho:

1) will the 4GB Vram on the 1650 S be enough for the next years? It wont have to run the most graphically intensive games, but Planet Zoo can be quite demanding I feel

2) Does the i3 come with a cooler? or do I need to boy one extra?

The 1650 Super is a better option vs the RX 570, I don't think the VRAM will limit you at 1080p at the resolutions you will be playing.

 

I do not recommend you go for the i3. The Ryzen 3100 is much stronger. But it does come with a cooler.

BabyBlu (Primary): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3GHz, 5.0GHz all-core, delidded
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000MHz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070MHz core, 8000MHz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ up to 5.0GHz, 4.8Ghz all-core, relidded w/ LM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, w/ Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BigBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28
  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 6700
  • Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133
  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
  • Case: Fractal Design Define 7
  • HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5
  • SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME
  • Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60
  • PSU: Corsair CX450
  • Display: None
  • Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S
  • Keyboard/Mouse: None
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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Just now, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

The 1650 Super is a better option vs the RX 570, I don't think the VRAM will limit you at 1080p at the resolutions you will be playing.

 

I do not recommend you go for the i3. The 3100 is much stronger. But it does come with a cooler.

Ok thank you! Then I'll change the list to 1650S with Ryzen 3 3100

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6 minutes ago, dorfdoctor said:

Ok, Thank you! The HDD isnt neccesary. My mum really doesnt need much storage. Her laptop has 128gb I think and she gets along with that. Two quesions tho:

1) will the 4GB Vram on the 1650 S be enough for the next years? It wont have to run the most graphically intensive games, but Planet Zoo can be quite demanding I feel

2) Does the i3 come with a cooler? or do I need to boy one extra?

i3 has a stock cooler, and 4gb will be enough for light gaming for the next 5 years or so.

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18 minutes ago, dorfdoctor said:

Ok, Thank you! The HDD isnt neccesary. My mum really doesnt need much storage. Her laptop has 128gb I think and she gets along with that. Two quesions tho:

1) will the 4GB Vram on the 1650 S be enough for the next years? It wont have to run the most graphically intensive games, but Planet Zoo can be quite demanding I feel

2) Does the i3 come with a cooler? or do I need to boy one extra?

ok, if the hdd is not needed, here is a DEFINETELY better version:

 

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3 minutes ago, Asez23 said:

should be great for light-medium gaming for the next 5 years, plus the ram, cpu and gpu are easily upgradeable. if you ever decide to upgrade, i would go with another 8/16gb of the same RAM, an i5-10400f and an rtx 3060ti

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21 minutes ago, dorfdoctor said:

Ok thank you! Then I'll change the list to 1650S with Ryzen 3 3100

i3 is 30-40 euros cheaper than the ryzen and it is 10% better, plus the i3 has 8 threads over the r3's 4 threads. i think it also has HTT enabled.

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59 minutes ago, Asez23 said:

Ok Tyy! Ill see what Ill take. It is better to go a bit under budget than fill it completely for the last bit of power for her so Ill rather take the weaker graphics card but Ill see how prices will develop ofc! 

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1 hour ago, Asez23 said:

i3 is 30-40 euros cheaper than the ryzen and it is 10% better, plus the i3 has 8 threads over the r3's 4 threads. i think it also has HTT enabled.

Ryzen 3 3100 has SMT. It has 4 cores 8 threads.

The more I learn, the more I realise I don't actually know anything. 

 

Recommendations: Lian Li 205m (sleek, pretty decent airflow for a non-mesh front panel and cheap), i5-10400f (Ryzen 5 3600 performance, 20% cheaper), Arctic P14 PWM fans, Logitech g305.

 

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pc:

 

RAM: 16GB DDR4-3200 CL-16

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 @ 3.6GHz

SSD: 256GB SP

GPU: Radeon RX 570 8GB OC

OS: Windows 10

Status: Main PC

Cinebench R23 score: 9097 (multi) 1236 (single)

 

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