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10900K (652$) vs 5900X (843$) vs 5800X (734$) vs 3950X (815$) - Poland Market

I am upgrading my i7-3770K CPU and looking for the best price/value choice in my country. I do not know the prices in other countries so it is hard for me to decide which are overpriced and what to choose.

  • Intel i9-10900K (652$) - Available in stores
  • Ryzen 7 5900X (843$) - Available from resselers, not available in stores
  • Ryzen 9 5800X (734$) Available from resselers, not available in stores
  • Ryzen 9 3950X (815$) - Available in stores

 

My main reasone why I upgrade is to make the work as smooth as possible (no lags, long pdf/excel/photoshop loading etc.) and to play games. I can spend as much money as nessesary, but I do not want to throw money out of the windows if It only benefits me very little in comparison to a cheaper part (for example the slight fps boost of the RTX 3090 is not worth the money difference between the RTX 3080 for me). I work mostly from my PC using variouse websites with terrain/satelites, big Excel spreedsheets, Google Maps, Google Earth, Maps, big PDF files, Photoshop (big files). I also use virtual machines. I run a 3 monitor setup with two 2560x1440 and one 3440x1440 100hz monitor.

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I suggest waiting until there is stock, never buy from scalpers. But generally speaking, I'd suggest getting the 5800X, when at RRP.

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Just now, AndreiArgeanu said:

I suggest waiting until there is stock, never buy from scalpers. But generally speaking, I'd suggest getting the 5800X, when at RRP.

I forgot to mention I have to make the decision now :/ 

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I vote the 5800X as well.

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I'd recommend you doing a 2-step upgrade, get a B550 board and the ram and a cheaper CPU for now. I'd argue a Ryzen 3 3100 could be resold in 3-6 months for at least 50-60% of its value and then you can buy a higher end CPU once the resellers have more stock. You'd lose 50 or 60€ in the resell, but you save 200 or 300 from not buying from resellers.

Edit: Get a lower end CPU now and resell in the future when stock stablizies

Planning on trying StarCitizen (Highly recommended)? STAR-NR5P-CJFR is my referal link 

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5 minutes ago, Xaring said:

I'd recommend you doing a 2-step upgrade, get a B550 board and the ram and a cheaper CPU for now. I'd argue a Ryzen 3 3100 could be resold in 3-6 months for at least 50-60% of its value and then you can buy a higher end CPU once the resellers have more stock. You'd lose 50 or 60€ in the resell, but you save 200 or 300 from not buying from resellers.

The thing is I need the full power now (work related). Would youn still choose the 5800X for 734$ or is another option more value for the money?

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If your workload is thread dependent, i'd go for the 3950X over the 5800X... No, i wouldn't buy a 475€ CPU for 734€.

If you don't need the threads, i'd still got for an older and cheaper chip, the performance is just not worth the extra money.

My opinion: If you need the extra threads -> 3950X
If you don't need the extra threads -> 3100 with future upgrade to 5800X

It also depends on how much money these chips are able to make you. If you're really going to be exploiting every little piece of performance and make money from it, just get a 5950X.

As it currently stands, the performance is not worth the scalper pricing.

Planning on trying StarCitizen (Highly recommended)? STAR-NR5P-CJFR is my referal link 

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What do you guys think about the 10900K, it is the cheapest, available in stores and as far as benchmarks the same as others.

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1 hour ago, Xaring said:

I'd recommend you doing a 2-step upgrade, get a B550 board and the ram and a cheaper CPU for now. I'd argue a Ryzen 3 3100 could be resold in 3-6 months for at least 50-60% of its value and then you can buy a higher end CPU once the resellers have more stock. You'd lose 50 or 60€ in the resell, but you save 200 or 300 from not buying from resellers.

Edit: Get a lower end CPU now and resell in the future when stock stablizies

Lol ryzen 3 3100 in my area is almost $200.

 

Check this out on @Newegg: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 Quad-Core 3.6 GHz Socket AM4 65W 100-100000284BOX Desktop Processor https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-3-3100-ryzen-3-3rd-gen/p/N82E16819113649?Item=9SIAPMXD095976&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAPMXD095976-_-12032020

 

Supply is so limited everything is inflated prices like crazy, even the old low end stuff

My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.375v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // ASUS RTX 3080 TUF OC // Corsair 275R Airflow // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/1TB Samsung 860 EVO/512GB Silicon Power A55/1TB 2.5" HGST HDD/2TB Seagate Barracuda // Displays: AOC AGON AG241QX/Lenovo L24Q-30/Lenovo L24Q-30 // Razer Black Widow TE Chroma - Logitech G502 // Corsair H70 Gaming Headset

 

Wife's System: i7-8700 // Arctic Freezer 33 // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon 5700 XT RAW II // NZXT S340 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB Samsung 860 EVO/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248Q // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602 // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: Ryzen 5 1600 3.9ghz All-core @1.39v // Wraith PRISM // Gigabyte B450 Aorus M // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // Sapphire Radeon RX Vega 64 // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Corsair Vengeance Silver 650W // 120GB Sandisk SSD/120GB PNY CS900/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

TV GAMER 2: Intel i3-10100 // ASRock H410M-HDV/M.2 // 16GB (2x8) DDR4 T-Force Vulcan 2666 ASUS RX 570 4GB // Rosewill FBM-X2 // Gigabyte P750GM // 120GB OCZ SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: LG 50" 4k TV // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i5-9400 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB (2x8) GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 // XFX RX 580 8GB XXX Edition // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/1TB WD SN550 // Display: ACER Nitro VG240Y/ PBiip / Dell P2417H // Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350k // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 8GB (2x4) Leven DDR4 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: Scepter 20" 1080p // Redragon TKL Mechanic Keyboard + Mouse

 

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At these prices and even not counting the scalpers I'd hunker down with what you already have it you can 

 

If you can't, a 10700k/10900k system will get you buy until stock improves or something much better comes along. You can always offload it later or use for another purpose once you upgrade to whatever later.

 

Because motherfuck scalpers

My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.375v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // ASUS RTX 3080 TUF OC // Corsair 275R Airflow // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/1TB Samsung 860 EVO/512GB Silicon Power A55/1TB 2.5" HGST HDD/2TB Seagate Barracuda // Displays: AOC AGON AG241QX/Lenovo L24Q-30/Lenovo L24Q-30 // Razer Black Widow TE Chroma - Logitech G502 // Corsair H70 Gaming Headset

 

Wife's System: i7-8700 // Arctic Freezer 33 // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon 5700 XT RAW II // NZXT S340 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB Samsung 860 EVO/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248Q // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602 // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: Ryzen 5 1600 3.9ghz All-core @1.39v // Wraith PRISM // Gigabyte B450 Aorus M // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // Sapphire Radeon RX Vega 64 // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Corsair Vengeance Silver 650W // 120GB Sandisk SSD/120GB PNY CS900/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

TV GAMER 2: Intel i3-10100 // ASRock H410M-HDV/M.2 // 16GB (2x8) DDR4 T-Force Vulcan 2666 ASUS RX 570 4GB // Rosewill FBM-X2 // Gigabyte P750GM // 120GB OCZ SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: LG 50" 4k TV // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i5-9400 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB (2x8) GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 // XFX RX 580 8GB XXX Edition // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/1TB WD SN550 // Display: ACER Nitro VG240Y/ PBiip / Dell P2417H // Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350k // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 8GB (2x4) Leven DDR4 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: Scepter 20" 1080p // Redragon TKL Mechanic Keyboard + Mouse

 

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34 minutes ago, trzasku said:

What do you guys think about the 10900K, it is the cheapest, available in stores and as far as benchmarks the same as others.

If there's no better alternative, sure go for it... Definitelly a better value than the 5800X for these prices.

Planning on trying StarCitizen (Highly recommended)? STAR-NR5P-CJFR is my referal link 

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30 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Lol ryzen 3 3100 in my area is almost $200.

 

Check this out on @Newegg: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 Quad-Core 3.6 GHz Socket AM4 65W 100-100000284BOX Desktop Processor https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-3-3100-ryzen-3-3rd-gen/p/N82E16819113649?Item=9SIAPMXD095976&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAPMXD095976-_-12032020

 

Supply is so limited everything is inflated prices like crazy, even the old low end stuff

I can get it for 109€ from my local e-store :P https://www.pccomponentes.com/amd-ryzen-3-3100-wraith-stealth-39ghz

Planning on trying StarCitizen (Highly recommended)? STAR-NR5P-CJFR is my referal link 

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AMD...

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For once in my life, I will recommend an Intel chip.

Get the 10900K.

And then go AMD next time.

 

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7 minutes ago, Xaring said:

I can get it for 109€ from my local e-store :P https://www.pccomponentes.com/amd-ryzen-3-3100-wraith-stealth-39ghz

Look at this bad boy

 

 

Check this out on @Newegg: AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W 100-100000031BOX Desktop Processor https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600/p/N82E16819113569?Item=9SIAPMXC468552&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAPMXC468552-_-12032020

 

Availability so bad it's $319

My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.375v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // ASUS RTX 3080 TUF OC // Corsair 275R Airflow // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/1TB Samsung 860 EVO/512GB Silicon Power A55/1TB 2.5" HGST HDD/2TB Seagate Barracuda // Displays: AOC AGON AG241QX/Lenovo L24Q-30/Lenovo L24Q-30 // Razer Black Widow TE Chroma - Logitech G502 // Corsair H70 Gaming Headset

 

Wife's System: i7-8700 // Arctic Freezer 33 // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon 5700 XT RAW II // NZXT S340 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB Samsung 860 EVO/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248Q // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602 // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: Ryzen 5 1600 3.9ghz All-core @1.39v // Wraith PRISM // Gigabyte B450 Aorus M // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // Sapphire Radeon RX Vega 64 // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Corsair Vengeance Silver 650W // 120GB Sandisk SSD/120GB PNY CS900/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

TV GAMER 2: Intel i3-10100 // ASRock H410M-HDV/M.2 // 16GB (2x8) DDR4 T-Force Vulcan 2666 ASUS RX 570 4GB // Rosewill FBM-X2 // Gigabyte P750GM // 120GB OCZ SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: LG 50" 4k TV // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i5-9400 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB (2x8) GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 // XFX RX 580 8GB XXX Edition // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/1TB WD SN550 // Display: ACER Nitro VG240Y/ PBiip / Dell P2417H // Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350k // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 8GB (2x4) Leven DDR4 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: Scepter 20" 1080p // Redragon TKL Mechanic Keyboard + Mouse

 

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the 5900x actually has the best relative value here, that's what i'd go with if you HAVE to pick one.

9900k 1.39v 5.2avx 5.0 ring 96C 205w 1.01v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5575 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 15-15-15-33-320-24 ddr4100  bdie 1.5v 45C 1.25sa/1.21io  ll EVGA 2080 ti XC 1995//7600 325w 69C stock voltage (bad ocer) ll  8x nf12/14 fans 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA G2 1300w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA272w (movie, work mon) 1080p 60hzll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (using at 4:4:4 98 fan is dying)

 

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My 5900X does 4.55 all cores at base 1.2V which made my setup run very silent and fast, I can highly recommend it. 3950X got buried by the 5900X single core performance with similar multicore meanwhile 5800X got buried with 5900X multicore performance and there aren't much of a price difference between these. 10900K however 200$ cheaper but if that also means more psu and mobo cost then 5900X is the clear winner here.

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10 hours ago, trzasku said:

The thing is I need the full power now (work related). Would youn still choose the 5800X for 734$ or is another option more value for the money?

If you need it now you have only one choice.

 

9 hours ago, trzasku said:

What do you guys think about the 10900K, it is the cheapest, available in stores and as far as benchmarks the same as others.

I have one.

For productivity it needs to run below 70c so it can use Thermal Velocity Boost. It also needs the intel power limit removed to use all the boost..  For that it needs a 360mm AIO or better. In games that beats my i7 8086k with a 5.1ghz all core overclock. 

If the i9 has an all core 5 or 5.1ghz overclock it is under performing. Only a 5.2 or 5.3ghz can beat my "stock" configuration.

 

With an all core 5.3ghz overclock my i9 10900k is very stable(has never crashed) but it is using about 330 watts under load and will thermal throttle in some benches(Not AVX workloads).  I have not played around with other types of overclocking since the "stock" setup is fine for now. 

 

They also need a lot of motherboard. I would not like to use less than my ASUS Hero XII board. This also has to be part of the cost of running it that will bring closer to the AMD prices. 

 

RIG#1 CPU: Intel i9 10900k | Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus XII Hero | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 4000 | GPU: EVGA  RTX 2080 ti FTW3 ULTRA | PSU: EVGA 1300 G2 | Case: Cooler Master H500M | Cooler: SilverStone PF360 | SSD#1: Crucial P1 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 2TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k B9 OLED TV


RIG#2 CPU: Intel i7 8086k, 5ghz all cores| Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero | RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB DDR4 3200 | GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 ti FTW3 ULTRA | PSU: Corsair RMx1000W | Case: Cooler Master HAF X | Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 | SSD#1: Crucial MX300 2.5" 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 1TB | Monitor: LG 55" 4k B9 OLED TV

 

RIG#3 CPU: Intel i9 9900k, 5ghz all cores| Motherboard: AORUS Z390 Ultra | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 3200 | GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 ti SC | PSU: EVGA 1000 GQ | Case: Streacom BC1.1S | Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 | SSD: Samsung 870 EVO 2TB | Monitor: LG 49" NanoCell 85

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