10900K (652$) vs 5900X (843$) vs 5800X (734$) vs 3950X (815$) - Poland Market

[trzasku]

I am upgrading my i7-3770K CPU and looking for the best price/value choice in my country. I do not know the prices in other countries so it is hard for me to decide which are overpriced and what to choose.

• Intel i9-10900K (652$) - Available in stores
• Ryzen 7 5900X (843$) - Available from resselers, not available in stores
• Ryzen 9 5800X (734$) Available from resselers, not available in stores
• Ryzen 9 3950X (815$) - Available in stores

 

My main reasone why I upgrade is to make the work as smooth as possible (no lags, long pdf/excel/photoshop loading etc.) and to play games. I can spend as much money as nessesary, but I do not want to throw money out of the windows if It only benefits me very little in comparison to a cheaper part (for example the slight fps boost of the RTX 3090 is not worth the money difference between the RTX 3080 for me). I work mostly from my PC using variouse websites with terrain/satelites, big Excel spreedsheets, Google Maps, Google Earth, Maps, big PDF files, Photoshop (big files). I also use virtual machines. I run a 3 monitor setup with two 2560x1440 and one 3440x1440 100hz monitor.

[AndreiArgeanu]

I suggest waiting until there is stock, never buy from scalpers. But generally speaking, I'd suggest getting the 5800X, when at RRP.

[trzasku]

Just now, AndreiArgeanu said:

I suggest waiting until there is stock, never buy from scalpers. But generally speaking, I'd suggest getting the 5800X, when at RRP.

I forgot to mention I have to make the decision now  

[WhitetailAni]

I vote the 5800X as well.

[Xaring]

I'd recommend you doing a 2-step upgrade, get a B550 board and the ram and a cheaper CPU for now. I'd argue a Ryzen 3 3100 could be resold in 3-6 months for at least 50-60% of its value and then you can buy a higher end CPU once the resellers have more stock. You'd lose 50 or 60€ in the resell, but you save 200 or 300 from not buying from resellers.

Edit: Get a lower end CPU now and resell in the future when stock stablizies

[trzasku]

5 minutes ago, Xaring said:

I'd recommend you doing a 2-step upgrade, get a B550 board and the ram and a cheaper CPU for now. I'd argue a Ryzen 3 3100 could be resold in 3-6 months for at least 50-60% of its value and then you can buy a higher end CPU once the resellers have more stock. You'd lose 50 or 60€ in the resell, but you save 200 or 300 from not buying from resellers.

The thing is I need the full power now (work related). Would youn still choose the 5800X for 734$ or is another option more value for the money?

[Xaring]

If your workload is thread dependent, i'd go for the 3950X over the 5800X... No, i wouldn't buy a 475€ CPU for 734€.

If you don't need the threads, i'd still got for an older and cheaper chip, the performance is just not worth the extra money.

My opinion: If you need the extra threads -> 3950X
If you don't need the extra threads -> 3100 with future upgrade to 5800X

It also depends on how much money these chips are able to make you. If you're really going to be exploiting every little piece of performance and make money from it, just get a 5950X.

As it currently stands, the performance is not worth the scalper pricing.

[trzasku]

What do you guys think about the 10900K, it is the cheapest, available in stores and as far as benchmarks the same as others.

[Mister Woof]

1 hour ago, Xaring said:

I'd recommend you doing a 2-step upgrade, get a B550 board and the ram and a cheaper CPU for now. I'd argue a Ryzen 3 3100 could be resold in 3-6 months for at least 50-60% of its value and then you can buy a higher end CPU once the resellers have more stock. You'd lose 50 or 60€ in the resell, but you save 200 or 300 from not buying from resellers.

Edit: Get a lower end CPU now and resell in the future when stock stablizies

Lol ryzen 3 3100 in my area is almost $200.

 

Check this out on @Newegg: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 Quad-Core 3.6 GHz Socket AM4 65W 100-100000284BOX Desktop Processor https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-3-3100-ryzen-3-3rd-gen/p/N82E16819113649?Item=9SIAPMXD095976&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAPMXD095976-_-12032020

 

Supply is so limited everything is inflated prices like crazy, even the old low end stuff

[Mister Woof]

At these prices and even not counting the scalpers I'd hunker down with what you already have it you can 

 

If you can't, a 10700k/10900k system will get you buy until stock improves or something much better comes along. You can always offload it later or use for another purpose once you upgrade to whatever later.

 

Because motherfuck scalpers

[Xaring]

34 minutes ago, trzasku said:

What do you guys think about the 10900K, it is the cheapest, available in stores and as far as benchmarks the same as others.

If there's no better alternative, sure go for it... Definitelly a better value than the 5800X for these prices.

[Xaring]

30 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Lol ryzen 3 3100 in my area is almost $200.

 

Check this out on @Newegg: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 Quad-Core 3.6 GHz Socket AM4 65W 100-100000284BOX Desktop Processor https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-3-3100-ryzen-3-3rd-gen/p/N82E16819113649?Item=9SIAPMXD095976&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAPMXD095976-_-12032020

 

Supply is so limited everything is inflated prices like crazy, even the old low end stuff

I can get it for 109€ from my local e-store  https://www.pccomponentes.com/amd-ryzen-3-3100-wraith-stealth-39ghz

[WhitetailAni]

AMD...

For once in my life, I will recommend an Intel chip.

Get the 10900K.

And then go AMD next time.

 

elephants

[Mister Woof]

7 minutes ago, Xaring said:

I can get it for 109€ from my local e-store  https://www.pccomponentes.com/amd-ryzen-3-3100-wraith-stealth-39ghz

Look at this bad boy

 

 

Check this out on @Newegg: AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W 100-100000031BOX Desktop Processor https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600/p/N82E16819113569?Item=9SIAPMXC468552&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAPMXC468552-_-12032020

 

Availability so bad it's $319

[xg32]

the 5900x actually has the best relative value here, that's what i'd go with if you HAVE to pick one.

[andarhan]

My 5900X does 4.55 all cores at base 1.2V which made my setup run very silent and fast, I can highly recommend it. 3950X got buried by the 5900X single core performance with similar multicore meanwhile 5800X got buried with 5900X multicore performance and there aren't much of a price difference between these. 10900K however 200$ cheaper but if that also means more psu and mobo cost then 5900X is the clear winner here.

[jones177]

10 hours ago, trzasku said:

The thing is I need the full power now (work related). Would youn still choose the 5800X for 734$ or is another option more value for the money?

If you need it now you have only one choice.

 

9 hours ago, trzasku said:

What do you guys think about the 10900K, it is the cheapest, available in stores and as far as benchmarks the same as others.

I have one.

For productivity it needs to run below 70c so it can use Thermal Velocity Boost. It also needs the intel power limit removed to use all the boost..  For that it needs a 360mm AIO or better. In games that beats my i7 8086k with a 5.1ghz all core overclock. 

If the i9 has an all core 5 or 5.1ghz overclock it is under performing. Only a 5.2 or 5.3ghz can beat my "stock" configuration.

 

With an all core 5.3ghz overclock my i9 10900k is very stable(has never crashed) but it is using about 330 watts under load and will thermal throttle in some benches(Not AVX workloads).  I have not played around with other types of overclocking since the "stock" setup is fine for now. 

 

They also need a lot of motherboard. I would not like to use less than my ASUS Hero XII board. This also has to be part of the cost of running it that will bring closer to the AMD prices.