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144Hz monitor even though eye can only see 60Hz

Hi, I'm looking to upgrade my monitor from 60hz to 144hz, but my dad says theres no point because the eye can only see 60hz. I've heard alot of people say that 144hz is so much better, but can anyone confirm my dad is on the right lines? Is it worth buying the 144hz?

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1 minute ago, Adrian12 said:

Hi, I'm looking to upgrade my monitor from 60hz to 144hz, but my dad says theres no point because the eye can only see 60hz. I've heard alot of people say that 144hz is so much better, but can anyone confirm my dad is on the right lines? Is it worth buying the 144hz?

Anything above 144 is possibly overkill but it’s a great upgrade! I don’t know much about the whole eye thing but I do know that it’s not just about that. The time between each frame you see is reduced in milliseconds. This may not sound like a lot but it’s noticeable.

 

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2 minutes ago, Adrian12 said:

Hi, I'm looking to upgrade my monitor from 60hz to 144hz, but my dad says theres no point because the eye can only see 60hz. I've heard alot of people say that 144hz is so much better, but can anyone confirm my dad is on the right lines? Is it worth buying the 144hz?

Honestly, I have a 144hz monitor, and I used to have a 60hz one, and the difference is insane. Just know that once you go to 144hz, you can't go back! 

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3 minutes ago, jsugarman2005 said:

Just know that once you go to 144hz, you can't go back! 

This is 100% true. It pains me to run COD at only ~75FPS but its all I can get out of my old hardware.

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Even going from 60Hz to 75Hz you can most certainly see a difference. Why would people buy high refresh rate displays if the eye truly can't see the benefits?

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10 minutes ago, Adrian12 said:

 Is it worth buying the 144hz?

Yes, it is. No doubt about it. But if your Dad still is not convinced, you could get a 120hz or 75hz to save a little money, but 144hz is the sweet spot.

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12 minutes ago, Adrian12 said:

my dad says theres no point because the eye can only see 60hz

Your dad is wrong, eyes refresh at 30Hz, not 60Hz.

 

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11 minutes ago, ZonalThrone said:

Anything above 144 is possibly overkill but it’s a great upgrade! I don’t know much about the whole eye thing but I do know that it’s not just about that. The time between each frame you see is reduced in milliseconds. This may not sound like a lot but it’s noticeable.

 

Is there any good monitors you can recommend for around £100 which do 144hz or close. Used is perfectly fine, i never buy new anyway

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34 minutes ago, Adrian12 said:

Hi, I'm looking to upgrade my monitor from 60hz to 144hz, but my dad says theres no point because the eye can only see 60hz. I've heard alot of people say that 144hz is so much better, but can anyone confirm my dad is on the right lines? Is it worth buying the 144hz?

He's ether trolling you .. :P dads do that lol.

or ill informed.

Eye dont 'refresh' so there isnt a limit. Perceived motion is helped with higher refresh rates of displays. The higher the better.

There is a noticeable improvement going from 60 to 144hz.. beyond that the frame time decreases get smaller and smaller. So you have diminishing returns.

 

Each person will 'perceive' motion differently

 

18 minutes ago, Adrian12 said:

Is there any good monitors you can recommend for around £100 which do 144hz or close. Used is perfectly fine, i never buy new anyway

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What your eyes see or doesn't see don't matter at all.

 

60hz monitor only refreshes every 16.6ms where as 144hz monitor refreshes every 6.95ms. Assuming you get at least 144fps your monitor will have a more recent frame to work with. This all means that movement will be smoother. Your eyes doesn't have anything to do with this.

 

You also get lower input latencies with high refresh rates. Again, since your monitor can refresh more often your inputs will be shown on the screen faster, thus reducing input latency.

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Try looking at a sceptre monitor. They have good ones on the cheaper side. I think the 144Hz one can actually be overclocked to 240.

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Eyes do not refresh vertically and horizontally like monitors.

 

... but I'm no expert

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Sure there is difference just by moving a mouse or a window. 

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I'm pretty sure that I can see the difference but the only real way to tell is a blind comparison. I personally would upgrade from 1080 to 1440 before going 60 to 144, but it's really up to what you see. 

There was one guy in the youtube comments who claimed that the difference between 60 and 144 was night and day. On a youtube video. 

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26 minutes ago, itswillum said:

There was one guy in the youtube comments who claimed that the difference between 60 and 144 was night and day. On a youtube video. 

You mean Linus?

 

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21 minutes ago, Gaires said:

You mean Linus?

 

No it was on a hardware unboxed video, the guy thought he could see high refresh rates through a normal video because of how the framerate factors into the refresh rate and that the difference was "night and day" lmao

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I would never suggest going over 144hz hell id even say that 120hz wouldnt be a bad upgrade but there is a big difference in just the overall smoothness of the transitions. Anyone who has at some point gone from console gaming to pc gaming will be able to tell you there is a difference between 60hz and 144hz.

 

Also I learned a bit from this video back when it came out

 

 

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From my personal experience I would say that higher Hz is a better upgrade over resolution. I'd rather have 120 or 144hz 1440p than a 60hz 4K. 

 

If nothing ese you need the hardware to drive those sort of frames. 

 

You won't be disappointed if you have never used a high refresh rate panel before. And these new consoles are struggling to hit 60 FPS in some cases I've heard.... Yeah that's why the are £500. 

 

Anyway good luck with it, not saying your dad is being misleading he just probably needs to see it to believe. (plus there was alot of this going round the internet at one time ((that human eye can only see 60hz etc etc.))

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On 12/2/2020 at 8:42 AM, itswillum said:

I'm pretty sure that I can see the difference but the only real way to tell is a blind comparison. I personally would upgrade from 1080 to 1440 before going 60 to 144, but it's really up to what you see. 

There was one guy in the youtube comments who claimed that the difference between 60 and 144 was night and day. On a youtube video. 

It is 100% night and day. I switched to 144hz at around the start of the quarantine and I can’t believe the difference. My brother has a 60hz and it’s really funny when I go to his setup and I remember he has 60hz. If your not used to 144hz then you won’t really notice as much but as soon as you try a 144hz the difference will be apparent. As for upgrading, it depends on what they do with the PC. If it’s more gaming, then they should upgrade refresh rate first. And if it’s more work or school work then I recommend resolution first.

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12 minutes ago, jsugarman2005 said:

It is 100% night and day. I switched to 144hz at around the start of the quarantine and I can’t believe the difference. My brother has a 60hz and it’s really funny when I go to his setup and I remember he has 60hz. If your not used to 144hz then you won’t really notice as much but as soon as you try a 144hz the difference will be apparent. As for upgrading, it depends on what they do with the PC. If it’s more gaming, then they should upgrade refresh rate first. And if it’s more work or school work then I recommend resolution first.

I believe you yeah, I don't game that much, but my point was that you would not see a "night and day" difference between 144 and 60 hz in a 30 fps (or similar) video.

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