6800XT priced too high?

[Blindsay]

Been shopping around for a GPU upgrade. Ignoring scalping prices, the MSRP of the 6800XT is only $50 cheaper than the 3080.

The cards roughly trade blows in most cases except for RT performance where they are not even remotely close. Nvidia will be getting SAM. Nvidia also has NVENC which is very good. AMD is supposedly working on a DLSS alternative (Super Resolution IIRC) but for now there is not one. RTX voice is pretty cool and some of the other features they include are neat.

Which brings me to the why would I get a 6800XT for only $50 less? Is there some neat feature AMD has that I am forgetting about that Nvidia does not have? Otherwise $50 on a $700 GPU isnt really much to save by going with the 6800XT

I recognize this is a huge step forward for AMD and I am quite happy to see them getting competitive again in the high end gpu space but it seems like the 3080 is just the better buy right now

Thoughts?

I am holding out to see the numbers for the 6900XT though. If it can match the rasterization performance of the 3090 but has close to the performance of the 3080 in RT, for $500 cheaper than the 3090, I might consider that. 

[Downkey]

2 minutes ago, Blindsay said:

Been shopping around for a GPU upgrade. Ignoring scalping prices, the MSRP of the 6800XT is only $50 cheaper than the 3080.

The cards roughly trade blows in most cases except for RT performance where they are not even remotely close. Nvidia will be getting SAM. Nvidia also has NVENC which is very good. AMD is supposedly working on a DLSS alternative (Super Resolution IIRC) but for now there is not one. RTX voice is pretty cool and some of the other features they include are neat.

Which brings me to the why would I get a 6800XT for only $50 less? Is there some neat feature AMD has that I am forgetting about that Nvidia does not have? Otherwise $50 on a $700 GPU isnt really much to save by going with the 6800XT

I recognize this is a huge step forward for AMD and I am quite happy to see them getting competitive again in the high end gpu space but it seems like the 3080 is just the better buy right now

Thoughts?

I am holding out to see the numbers for the 6900XT though. If it can match the rasterization performance of the 3090 but has close to the performance of the 3080 in RT, for $500 cheaper than the 3090, I might consider that. 

Well, alot of people don't care about NVIDIAS features. Also, for people with set budgets, that $50 can be pretty helpful.

 

[dizmo]

I'd still go Nvidia. Their drivers are usually better, and the $50 price increase as you said isn't that much at that price point.

Plus if you do, or plan to do any kind of streaming Nvidia's Broadcast suite is pretty amazing.

1 minute ago, Downkey said:

Well, alot of people don't care about NVIDIAS features. Also, for people with set budgets, that $50 can be pretty helpful.

I mean, when you're building a PC at that price point, if you can't squeeze another $50, you're really shopping beyond your means.

[Blindsay]

Just now, Downkey said:

Well, alot of people don't care about NVIDIAS features. Also, for people with set budgets, that $50 can be pretty helpful.

 

I suppose that's fair about the features, features aside though RT is being used more in games these days. Minecraft RTX is pretty much unplayable on an AMD card at the moment. Also I feel people spending $700 on a GPU are not very budget constrained 

[Kilrah]

13 minutes ago, Blindsay said:

I am holding out to see the numbers for the 6900XT though. If it can match the rasterization performance of the 3090 but has close to the performance of the 3080 in RT,

I really doubt the RT performance of the 6900XT will get any close to the 3080, the improvement vs 6800XT will be about the same 20ish % for RT as for rasterization just as a result of the addition of some more CUs, what's needed for RT performance to catch up the 2-3x gap is a complete architecture change like nvidia did between 20 and 30...