RX 5700 XT worth it?

[abraham5712]

Is the rx 5700 xt still worth it for 1440p gaming, since getting a 6800 seams impossible .

[Action_Johnson]

That’s what I did, for the same reasons.

It’s the best $400 card that’s in-stock. I don’t think the $800 AIB’s are asking for the 6800XT is good
 

2060 Super for the same price, is slower and not really fast enough to use RT

[Downkey]

1 minute ago, Action_Johnson said:

That’s what I did, for the same reasons.

It’s the best $400 card that’s in-stock. I don’t think the $800 AIB’s are asking for the 6800XT is good
 

2060 Super for the same price, is slower and not really fast enough to use RT

Well currently they aren't in stock, About a week ago it was in stock for 350, but not anymore

[Action_Johnson]

Goddamnit. 
 

if you’re looking for something to hold you over for 9mo till regular stock happens, the 5600XT is good for the price, and is probably in stock. It bests the 1660 Super and Ti’s.

 

my work computer has a 1660 Super in it, it used to be in my home rig, it was able to play pretty much everything maxed at 1080 no sweat. Only had beef with RDR2 and FS2020, but nothing runs those two games well. 

 

 

[Action_Johnson]

$390 5700XT, in stock.

Comparatively speaking, considering today's graphics card landscape, that's alot of video card for $390. I still can't believe how expensive GPU's have gotten. I thought the 9700 Pro was crazy expensive when it came out...

 

Amazon.com: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card, Model Number: AXRX 5700XT 8GBD6-3DH: Computers & Accessories

[Andrek]

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[Notbn]

My Nitro+ 5700XT has been problem free other than the regular random game crashes that most PCs experience at some point. If you can find one under MSRP its probably a good deal. Just make sure your RAM is stable, that's usually what causes the "black screen issue" most people experience with the 5700XT

[BTGbullseye]

1 hour ago, Andrek said:

Stay away from the 5700 xt is absolute garbage. I have the sapphire version and all i've done since i got is tweaking. Stutters in every title i played, low gpu usage, frame drops. There is no nvidia stock where i live otherwise i would've rmt'd it already.

You should've done the RMA back when it was first giving issues, as that's not normal. There's nothing garbage about the GPU, just your card specifically.

[-rascal-]

1 hour ago, Andrek said:

Stay away from the 5700 xt is absolute garbage. I have the sapphire version and all i've done since i got is tweaking. Stutters in every title i played, low gpu usage, frame drops. There is no nvidia stock where i live otherwise i would've rmt'd it already.

 

Create an account JUST to make that comment, and...probably never to be seen again?

 

I've been running a Sapphire NITO+ 5700 XT Special Edition since May 2020.

Undervoltad to 1150mV (from factory 1200mV), and overclocked to 2080 MHz .... no stuttering issues reported yet.

I did run into game crashing, but later figured out it was my unstable overclock, and was further fixed on AMD's end via a July 2020 driver.

[Action_Johnson]

3 hours ago, Andrek said:

Stay away from the 5700 xt is absolute garbage. I have the sapphire version and all i've done since i got is tweaking. Stutters in every title i played, low gpu usage, frame drops. There is no nvidia stock where i live otherwise i would've rmt'd it already.

Aside from learning what AMD drivers are like (Haven't had an ATi card since the HD5770), My 5700XT has been no problem, it actually surprised me as I've written off AMD for about the last decade. 

 

Not trying to do any OC's or anything like that though. Just flip the BIOS switch on the card itself and leave it alone. IMO unless you're going to go liquid for a videocard, the gains are only a few fps, nothing actually noticeable in real life. 

[Mister Woof]

Seems everything is out of stock right now.

 

It's a bad time to buy.

 

As far as people complaining about 5700XT - I have possibly the cheapest one (XFX RAW II) and it runs great without problems.

 

It will be hard to justify the $400 price tag once the 3070 comes in greater availability, though.

 

EDIT: I meant 499 for 3070 or 399 for 3060 ti, respectively. got mixed up.

[Action_Johnson]

47 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

It will be hard to justify the $400 price tag once the 3070 comes in greater availability, though.

Agreed. Even against the 6800 it will be. 

 

I bet the 6500XT or 6700XT will be of similar performance as the 5700XT, just with mediocre RT performance for the 4 games that exist with it. By the time any games come out with useful RT, we'll be on RTX40's and RX7000's anyway. It's literally the same story as what happened when pixel shaders came out and effectively replaced Hardware T&L

[Mister Woof]

7 hours ago, Action_Johnson said:

Agreed. Even against the 6800 it will be. 

 

I bet the 6500XT or 6700XT will be of similar performance as the 5700XT, just with mediocre RT performance for the 4 games that exist with it. By the time any games come out with useful RT, we'll be on RTX40's and RX7000's anyway. It's literally the same story as what happened when pixel shaders came out and effectively replaced Hardware T&L

Only problem is that the 6500XT and 6700XT will probably face similar shortages as the others and be way overpriced.

 

I wanted a 6800XT at $649, but forget it. All the AIB cards are $800-900 and even rarer than a unicorn.

 

Ended up ordering an RTX 3080, which was cheaper than the 6800XT (which was SUPPOSED to be the cheaper option at $649), overall performs as good or better, and has more competent RTX and DLSS.

[genghisquan]

Yeah, I definitely think the 5700XT is worth it for 1440p. I don't think it'll give you 120+ FPS at max settings, but nobody should expect that kind of FPS outside of e-sports titles.

If you're not afraid, then get a 5700 with good cooling and dual BIOS and then flash an XT bios onto it.

[Action_Johnson]

Aaaaaand this is how fast the tech world changes. 

 

Unless you need a video card today, and can wait until January/February, looks like the 3060Ti is now the $400 king (if you can find one at that price)

 

Merry Christmas, scalpers! - RTX 3060 Ti Review - YouTube

 

HWUnboxed did a great comparison between the 5700XT and the 3060Ti:

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Benchmark Review, Gaming, Thermals & Overclocking - YouTube

 

Again, if you can find one (good luck), or wait, no reason to get a 5700XT anymore

[JuliusLXIX]

I got a Gigabyte RX 5700 XT about two months ago and ive been really happy with it runs all the new games pretty flawlessly and older games almost effortlessly in 4k like MGSV, GTAV, F1 2019 newer and more intensive games like Witcher 3 or Shadow of the Tomb Raider in 4k are a bit too much to handle but in 1440p you are perfectly fine 

[Action_Johnson]

Yeah I'm definitely happy with my 5700XT too, been a long time since I had a Radeon card (ATi HD 5770), and there are some driver-level things I really like about the Radeon, some things I really don't like, either. 

 

I don't like there's no frame limiter, performance tweaks don't save on reboots, sometimes the AMD driver will use 10-15% of my CPU resources...'

 

But what I do like is the overlay on games means changes can be made in real-time, very few options in the driver need a game restart, VSR looks MUCH better than Nvidia's DSR, and I like how I can use different supersampled resolutions without having to apply it to my desktop or force other games to do it like on Nvidia (FS2020 is a great example of this). Also, the the Radeon Sharpening (when used in conjunction with VSR), looks better than what Nvidia does. Has less of a radius.

 

I like the idea of having driver level performance tweaking (even though it doesn't work alot of the time). I dunno, the first few minutes after I upgraded from the 1660 Super, I was thinking "oh god what have I done" but after a while, it's a nice change of pace, and I'm not completely against using AMD for GPU's like I was 2-3 years ago.

 

I'll say this, my experience has been pleasant enough where I'd rather have a 6800XT over an RTX 3080. I don't have any games that use Ray Tracing, and the performance penalty, even on the 3080 is so high, I wouldn't use it. What I would use however, is the extra VRAM for cranking anisotropic filtering and supersampling games up to 4K. 

[BTGbullseye]

2 hours ago, Action_Johnson said:

performance tweaks don't save on reboots

Something's wrong with your driver installation if it's not saving between boots.

[Mister Woof]

2 hours ago, Action_Johnson said:

Yeah I'm definitely happy with my 5700XT too, been a long time since I had a Radeon card (ATi HD 5770), and there are some driver-level things I really like about the Radeon, some things I really don't like, either. 

 

I don't like there's no frame limiter, performance tweaks don't save on reboots, sometimes the AMD driver will use 10-15% of my CPU resources...'

 

But what I do like is the overlay on games means changes can be made in real-time, very few options in the driver need a game restart, VSR looks MUCH better than Nvidia's DSR, and I like how I can use different supersampled resolutions without having to apply it to my desktop or force other games to do it like on Nvidia (FS2020 is a great example of this). Also, the the Radeon Sharpening (when used in conjunction with VSR), looks better than what Nvidia does. Has less of a radius.

 

I like the idea of having driver level performance tweaking (even though it doesn't work alot of the time). I dunno, the first few minutes after I upgraded from the 1660 Super, I was thinking "oh god what have I done" but after a while, it's a nice change of pace, and I'm not completely against using AMD for GPU's like I was 2-3 years ago.

 

I'll say this, my experience has been pleasant enough where I'd rather have a 6800XT over an RTX 3080. I don't have any games that use Ray Tracing, and the performance penalty, even on the 3080 is so high, I wouldn't use it. What I would use however, is the extra VRAM for cranking anisotropic filtering and supersampling games up to 4K. 

1. There is a frame limiter in the driver - it's called Radeon Chill. I use it on some games that don't have their own frame limiters.

2. Performance tweaks not saving on reboots...that's unusual. I have had my tuning profiles reset to default sometimes, but usually its after a driver update or in the rare case of a game crash. 

3. I have not seen this happen regarding my CPU resources. Right now with 2 chrome windows, hwinfo64, radeon tuner, and discord running, my 8700k is at 5%.

4. I have no opinion (yet) on this. I use RIS at 100%, and when my 3080 comes in, I'll be using the sharpening feature on the driver level as well. I suppose we'll see how it lookds.

5. I wanted the 6800XT, but with the even worse availability and even more outrageous AIB prices, I decided to just get a 3080. I got an ASUS TUF OC 3080 for $749, and I'm looking forward to it. Meanwhile the reference 6800XTs are nowhere to be found and AIB are around $900.

6. VRAM - I'm not really interested in. Digital Foundry did a pretty exhaustive review on the 6800XT/3080, and found there was no issue with VRAM even at 4k in today's titles at max texture resolutions. Given I am going to be playing 1440p high refresh, it's even less of an issue. 

 

That said, you get what you can find. Right now 6800/XT, regardless of form, are unicorns. At least 3080s can sometimes be found locally in stores, and sometimes online.

[Orphanage]

On 12/1/2020 at 2:50 AM, genghisquan said:

Yeah, I definitely think the 5700XT is worth it for 1440p. I don't think it'll give you 120+ FPS at max settings, but nobody should expect that kind of FPS outside of e-sports titles.

If you're not afraid, then get a 5700 with good cooling and dual BIOS and then flash an XT bios onto it.

What’s safest way to do this 

 

On 12/1/2020 at 2:50 AM, genghisquan said:

Yeah, I definitely think the 5700XT is worth it for 1440p. I don't think it'll give you 120+ FPS at max settings, but nobody should expect that kind of FPS outside of e-sports titles.

If you're not afraid, then get a 5700 with good cooling and dual BIOS and then flash an XT bios onto it.

What’s the best way to do this