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G.SKILL TridentZ RGB vs G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Neo for Ryzen 5900x

I am looking to upgrade to a 5900x (when in stock......sigh) I want to get 32GB ram. I have been looking around at different kits and it seems like te G.SKILL TridentZ RGB are the best for 

Ryzen. My question is twofold

 

1. What is the difference between the Neo and non-Neo

2. The Neo only goes up to 3600 cl16 but I can get 4000 cl16 of the non-Neo memory its 2x but I plan on having this PC for a while and I wan to get the most out of my CPU. So is the optmized 3600 Ryzen memory better then the 4000 Cl16 

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I would get the 4000mhz one

Any Help is appricated! Please correct me if I´m wrong!

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4 minutes ago, NaGoldfarb said:

I am looking to upgrade to a 5900x (when in stock......sigh) I want to get 32GB ram. I have been looking around at different kits and it seems like te G.SKILL TridentZ RGB are the best for 

Ryzen. My question is twofold

 

1. What is the difference between the Neo and non-Neo

2. The Neo only goes up to 3600 cl16 but I can get 4000 cl16 of the non-Neo memory its 2x but I plan on having this PC for a while and I wan to get the most out of my CPU. So is the optmized 3600 Ryzen memory better then the 4000 Cl16 

get the 4000 one and downclock it to 3800 with better timings.

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5 minutes ago, NaGoldfarb said:

The Neo only goes up to 3600 cl16 but I can get 4000 cl16 of the non-Neo memory its 2x

The 4000 kit is twice as expensive as the 3600?

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2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

The 4000 kit is twice as expensive as the 3600?

about, currents a 32Gb 3600 kit is $165, and a 4000 kit is $300

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Any half way decent B-Die kit will OC to 4000mhz from 3600mhz. (just usually seen on Intel)

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6 minutes ago, NaGoldfarb said:

about, currents a 32Gb 3600 kit is $165, and a 4000 kit is $300

Well, that sounds like a rip-off.

 

Get a nice Samsung B-die 3200 CL14 kit and try getting it to 3800/3866/3933/4000MHz (depending on how high your CPU's FCLK will go), and messing around with the timings (as well as tightening the tertiaries), while keeping voltage at a safe level for 24/7 use (which is <= 1.5V I would say for Samsung B-die). That is, if you're specifically looking to do manual overclocking.

 

If you'd rather just enable XMP and forget about it, go for 3600 CL16, or if you don't mind spending a bit more, 3600/3800 CL14.

 

Also, keep in mind that after a certain point, differences in real-world performance from faster memory are minuscule. Don't stress a whole lot about it.

 

Edit: By the way, with a 2x16GB Samsung B-die kit you'll be looking at dual-rank memory, so that alone will give a performance benefit at least as large as going from say 3600MHz to 4000MHz, if that was on single-rank.

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4 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

XMP and forget about it, go for 3600 CL16,

Yea thats my plan, I dont have a lot of experience OC and dont have the time to play around with it right now. 

 

4 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

keep in mind that after a certain point, differences in real-world performance from faster memory are minuscule. Don't stress a whole lot about it.

I thought there might be some diminishing returns at some point, I was just unsure if where. There is lot of lot of Ryzen 5000 information out currently, so research is a little hard. 

 

So should i go with the Neo or non-Neo? From what I can tell they are the same memory just the Neo is out of the boxed optimized.  

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, NaGoldfarb said:

So should i go with the Neo or non-Neo? From what I can tell they are the same memory just the Neo is out of the boxed optimized.  

Go for whichever looks better to you.

Memory “being optimised for Ryzen” or whatever is just marketing. Ignore it.

Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13"  --  i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe | macOS Big Sur

Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro Plus | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

Displays: Alienware AW2521HF & BenQ BL2420PT

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