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so i broke case glass side panel. is it okay to leave it like this with some cleaning

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well it accidents happen. is it safe if i will use it like this for several months with every week cleaning for dust? i really dont want to  buy a new case and too lazy to rebuild it

 

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just make sure the glass didn't end up somewhere it isn't supposed to be and I would imagine you would be fine

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Glass isn't electrically conductive so so long as it isn't in any of the fans you can run the computer without a side panel. It won't hurt anything.

 

I would clean up the glass as best you can though.

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With the panel off? I would check up on temps of things like VRM and PCH using hwinfo. No panel can disrupt the airflow and thus increase temps on some motherboard components. Hence why people with test benches use fans pointed at the board. 

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I recently heard the cubes tempered glass breaks into refereed to as “redneck diamonds”.  This is a major reason I don’t want a case with a glass side panel.  Tempered glass has a shelf life. It’s a long shelf life, but it’s limited.

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1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

I recently heard the cubes tempered glass breaks into refereed to as “redneck diamonds”.  This is a major reason I don’t want a case with a glass side panel.  Tempered glass has a shelf life. It’s a long shelf life, but it’s limited.

Think you're being a little too cautious.  Or you do things with your PC that aren't the norm :)

 

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17 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Think you're being a little too cautious.  Or you do things with your PC that aren't the norm :)

 

TG is just fine.

Gah.  I conflated threads.  There’s another one about overclocking I thought this was referring to.  You may be right about the overly cautious thing.  It’s a known failing of mine.  I’ve got more experience with safety and tempered glass than some, but a lot less than others.  It would be interesting to see what a guy who does glass repair thinks. They will have a lot more experience than me.   One person that might have a really useful opinion is a local fda safety inspector.  They have a ton of rules about what kind of glass has to be used where and why.

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Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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3 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

I recently heard the cubes tempered glass breaks into refereed to as “redneck diamonds”.  This is a major reason I don’t want a case with a glass side panel.  Tempered glass has a shelf life. It’s a long shelf life, but it’s limited.

A shelf life? Never heard that before. My parents have a tempered glass coffee table, I recall getting it in the late 1980's. Still fine all these years later. I'm sure a 20xx pc is fine. 

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16 minutes ago, Blue4130 said:

A shelf life? Never heard that before. My parents have a tempered glass coffee table, I recall getting it in the late 1980's. Still fine all these years later. I'm sure a 20xx pc is fine. 

A very long one.  My understanding is all tempered glass is fated to eventually shatter. Be it a month or a century.  This is not true of safety glass which is made differently and tends to be much more expensive.   The more vibration and shocks a piece takes the faster it happens. The less, the slower. They can take a lot.  My understanding may be flawed.  There are people that know a lot more about this than me. I know only what I was told.   Glass is weird stuff. It’s a liquid for one thing, even after it’s made into panes. It just flows very very slowly.  Really old glass is thicker on the bottom than on the top because it’s still flowing.  You can even see it in windows more than a couple centuries old. 

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Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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1 minute ago, Mooshi said:

I'd personally reach out to the manufacturer to see about replacing it.

^ this.  A functional piece of advice. 

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7 minutes ago, Mooshi said:

I'd personally reach out to the manufacturer to see about replacing it.

Well its deepcool and case was bought from local retailer so i dont think i will be able to buy it

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4 minutes ago, plsguyshelp said:

Well its deepcool and case was bought from local retailer so i dont think i will be able to buy it

Their customer support might be able to help you find a replacement side panel. I know we have some DeepCool reps who hang out around here, they might be able to help. @DeepCool zer0 @DeepCool Alan

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3 hours ago, plsguyshelp said:

Well its deepcool and case was bought from local retailer so i dont think i will be able to buy it

none of what you said means you can't replace it... 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

 It’s a liquid for one thing, even after it’s made into panes. It just flows very very slowly.  Really old glass is thicker on the bottom than on the top because it’s still flowing.  You can even see it in windows more than a couple centuries old. 

This is a myth that is not true. Reason why old glass is thicker at the bottom is only that they were shit at making glass panels back then, it's not that it's flowing.

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52 minutes ago, Mihle said:

This is a myth that is not true. Reason why old glass is thicker at the bottom is only that they were shit at making glass panels back then, it's not that it's flowing.

You’re talking about rolled glass.  Then why is it smaller inside the leaded slots?  If it’s a myth it’s a pernicious one.  It was related to me at a museum house in Massachusetts.  They had cross sections.  It is a bit odd because there is Egyptian tomb glass.  I know there are several types of glass that are made out of totally different things.  The most common for a long time was soda lime glass which is not used much anymore.  Float glass is actually pretty new.  Rolled glass is all there was for a very long time.  Basically they made a wine bottle, cut the ends off, slit it down one side to get a small square pane.  This is why very old buildings have leadwork panes. There was no plate glass.  To fill a window you needed a bunch of panes. 

 

your claim was enough to make me do some googling though found this 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-glass-really-a-liquid/

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5 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

You’re talking about rolled glass.  Then why is it smaller inside the leaded slots?  If it’s a myth it’s a pernicious one.  It was related to me at a museum house in Massachusetts.  They had cross sections.  It is a bit odd because there is Egyptian tomb glass.  I know there are several types of glass that are made out of totally different things.  The most common for a long time was soda lime glass which is not used much anymore.  Float glass is actually pretty new.  Rolled glass is all there was for a very long time.  Basically they made a wine bottle, cut the ends off, slit it down one side to get a small square pane.  This is why very old buildings have leadwork panes. There was no plate glass.  To fill a window you needed a bunch of panes. 

 

your claim was enough to make me do some googling though found this 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-glass-really-a-liquid/

From another, (newer) one:

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Whatever flow glass manages, however, does not explain why some antique windows are thicker at the bottom. Other, even older glasses do not share the same melted look. In fact, ancient Egyptian vessels have none of this sagging, says Robert Brill, an antique glass researcher at the Corning Museum of Glass in Corning, N.Y. Furthermore, cathedral glass should not flow because it is hundreds of degrees below its glass-transition temperature, Ediger adds. A mathematical model shows it would take longer than the universe has existed for room temperature cathedral glass to rearrange itself to appear melted.

 

Why old European glass is thicker at one end probably depends on how the glass was made. At that time, glassblowers created glass cylinders that were then flattened to make panes of glass. The resulting pieces may never have been uniformly flat and workers installing the windows preferred, for one reason or another, to put the thicker sides of the pane at the bottom. This gives them a melted look, but does not mean glass is a true liquid.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-fiction-glass-liquid/

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Maybe you can get a plexi replacemant at a local shop. If you give them the sizes they will surly make it for you

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5 minutes ago, Enzo1001 said:

Maybe you can get a plexi replacemant at a local shop. If you give them the sizes they will surly make it for you

Or a glass one. Most cities have custom glass shops than can work with tempered glass. 

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1 minute ago, Blue4130 said:

Or a glass one. Most cities have custom glass shops than can work with tempered glass. 

Yes but those are more expensive

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5 hours ago, Enzo1001 said:

Yes but those are more expensive

Reach out to deepcool directly.  Tell them your exact case and that you are willing to purchase a new panel.  They will most likely let you purchase it.  

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1 hour ago, Zusafek said:

Reach out to deepcool directly.  Tell them your exact case and that you are willing to purchase a new panel.  They will most likely let you purchase it.  

I love this thread, because this type of answer is the only viable one.

 

Serisously, don't Tweet, don't Insta, don't Pornhub it.... just pick up the phone and CALL the manufacturer.

 

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On 11/28/2020 at 4:15 PM, Bombastinator said:

A very long one.  My understanding is all tempered glass is fated to eventually shatter. Be it a month or a century.  This is not true of safety glass which is made differently and tends to be much more expensive.   The more vibration and shocks a piece takes the faster it happens. The less, the slower. They can take a lot.  My understanding may be flawed.  There are people that know a lot more about this than me. I know only what I was told.   Glass is weird stuff. It’s a liquid for one thing, even after it’s made into panes. It just flows very very slowly.  Really old glass is thicker on the bottom than on the top because it’s still flowing.  You can even see it in windows more than a couple centuries old. 

Glass is not a liquid. That is a complete myth, old windows are just thicker at the bottom because of the flawed production process that was used in the olden days.

 

Just because glass is neither a liquid nor a solid does not mean that it is in a state of flow. Atoms in glass are held together by tight chemical bonds. 

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2 hours ago, jtmoseley said:

Glass is not a liquid. That is a complete myth, old windows are just thicker at the bottom because of the flawed production process that was used in the olden days.

 

Just because glass is neither a liquid nor a solid does not mean that it is in a state of flow. Atoms in glass are held together by tight chemical bonds. 

This was already responded to.  There is an earlier post discussing this.  I believe there was a link.

 

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