Tongfang's smoothest act - XMG and Eluktronics releases high refresh rate laptops

[williamcll]

 

Packing an impressive 2K 144hz or 165hz monitor, the XMG NEO and Eluktronics MAX series of laptops now carries almost the highest spec intel + Nvidia possible at the current moment.

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The new WQHD displays are not the first innovation that XMG has made available to its customers in the NEO model series at an early stage. Back when the initial version was released in 2018, the German based company introduced what was then a brand new, opto-mechanical keyboard, which set a trend that other manufacturers and brands subsequently followed. With its precise responsiveness, the input device is one of the key features of the XMG NEO 15 and NEO 17, albeit in a version improved over several generations. The keyboard utilises tactile silent switches with an actuation point of two millimetres, a travel distance of one millimetre and is characterised by an actuating force of 60 g (cN). It also features Anti-Ghosting, N-Key rollover and freely configurable RGB per-key illumination.

 

The top configurations of the XMG NEO series feature Intel’s Core i7-10875H with eight cores and 16 threads as well as graphics cards up to NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER. An optional configuration with a GeForce RTX 2070 Refresh is also available. Both graphics cards are performance optimised Max-P versions, with the maximum specified TGP of 115 watts.

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Apparently, laptop OEMs chose to ignore the 1440p standard as of late, since 4K is now becoming mainstream in the TV world. The problem is, jumping from 1080p directly to 4K does not really make sense for the small laptop screens, plus you can immediately feel the impact on battery life and price. Eluktronics is the first laptop OEM to introduce the new 1440p 165 Hz displays from BOE, which are only $50 more expensive to produce than the 1080p variants, and they also increase the screen real estate by 78% without too much of an impact on the battery.

 

The new 1440p screens are quite bright at 318 nits, but they obviously cannot offer HDR support for now. Another plus to go along with the high refresh rate is the 2.5 ms response time, which recommends these screens for fast-paced competitive games. Luckily enough, for only $50 over the 1080p panels, we are getting 100% sRGB and 87% Adobe RGB color gamuts, as well.

While the XMG has a better starting price, at the some specification the Eluktronics is a more affordable choice though the former may have a bit better CPU performance.

Source: https://videocardz.com/press-release/schenker-xmg-launches-neo-15-and-neo-17-gaming-laptops-with-1440p-165hz-displays

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Eluktronics-is-introducing-the-world-s-first-gaming-laptops-with-1440p-165-Hz-displays.505632.0.html

Thoughts: Considering Zen3 mobile CPUs as well as Ampere/BigNavi mobile GPUs are coming out in two months or three, I have little interest in getting these laptops. The monitor refresh rate is great but I doubt all games can hit that level.
 

[CephDigital]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those models NOT Clevo chassis but TongFang?

[williamcll]

2 hours ago, CephDigital said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those models NOT Clevo chassis but TongFang?

I'm not too sure, TongFang's own brand Mechrevo has a laptop that looks similar but has no matching specifications. Do you have a link to their OEM model? I will amend the article accordingly if you have it.

[AlTech]

1 hour ago, williamcll said:

I'm not too sure, TongFang's own brand Mechrevo has a laptop that looks similar but has no matching specifications. Do you have a link to their OEM model? I will amend the article accordingly if you have it.

I believe @genexis_x has said these brands are Tongfang resellers.

[Matu20]

11 hours ago, williamcll said:

2K 144hz or 165hz monitor

2K is 1080p, 1440p is 2.5K-ish. Let's stop the spread of misinformation! A man can hope.

[genexis_x]

Those are Tongfang (ID-W and ID-S). Not Clevo.

[rcmaehl]

Didn't know about XMG until their Laptops with AMD Desktop CPUs but I've been seeing them mentioned more and more. Hope they become more mainstream.

[CephDigital]

8 hours ago, rcmaehl said:

Didn't know about XMG until their Laptops with AMD Desktop CPUs but I've been seeing them mentioned more and more. Hope they become more mainstream.

I've got their PRO 15 (Early 2019) laptop and I ordered my Reverb G2 through them. There's really nice people over there (especially Tom) and their prices are good. Can't complain about them and I'm definately gonna pick up one of these 1440p laptops through them once a Ryzen + RTX 3000 laptop becomes available.

[Dream Machines Official]

On 11/29/2020 at 1:14 AM, Matu20 said:

2K is 1080p, 1440p is 2.5K-ish. Let's stop the spread of misinformation! A man can hope.

You mean Native 2K and 4K don't you?

 

Besides I think this is only a marketing catch that you get a 2k screen with 165 Hz refresh rate. You won't differ this on 15' or even 17' laptop.

 

Chassis design nevertheless is attractive. If somebody likes new stuff and new design why not buy it?

 

[Matu20]

7 hours ago, Dream Machines Official said:

You mean Native 2K and 4K don't you?

 

Besides I think this is only a marketing catch that you get a 2k screen with 165 Hz refresh rate. You won't differ this on 15' or even 17' laptop.

 

Chassis design nevertheless is attractive. If somebody likes new stuff and new design why not buy it?

 

Yeah, but so often nowadays 2K is used interchangably with 1440p, and 1080p is just called 1080p, even though it's actually the true 2K resolution. And if you say that 2K isn't actually 1920 x 1080, then you're correct, but then calling 3840 x 2160 resolution 4K is wrong for that same exact reason. So if 4K = 2160p, then 2K = 1080p. 

 

I just dislike how widespread this misinformation has reached.

[Boanerges]

The 'misinformation' here is coming from some of the announcement or review websites, not from XMG.  If you go directly to the XMG website, It's fairly clear.   https://bestware.com/en/xmg-neo-17.html#product.info.configuration,..  XMG & Eluktronics are offering a FHD (1080p) panel at 240Hz, and a WQHD (1440p) panel at 165Hz.

 

Notebook checker also identifies this as the 2020, Tongfang GM7MPHS chassis.  https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-Neo-17-2020-Tongfang-GM7MPHS-Review-Overboost-unleashes-the-Core-i7-processor.504341.0.html

 

Have e-mailed and spoken with Tom at XMG.  It is the Tongfang chassis.  the 165 Hz, 1440 p isn't supposed to be available on the 17 inch Neo until mid-January.  There is a review of the 15 inch version, with the 165Hz panel, by a German reviewer someplace on youtube.  Would love to see a LTT review on one of the 17 inch laptops,. as that would be a review I could trust.  

 

Hope that helps & very best,...