Not quite gone yet - RTX 3080 20GB found

williamcll · November 28, 2020

Amongst all the 3060 Ti news, MSI made an unusual act to submit their trademarks for a 20GB memory model of the RTX 3080 to the Eurasian Economic Commission alongside their 3060 Ti model names, no information of when this card will come out is unknown.

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We are not sure why MSI has submitted the 20GB models to Eurasian Economic Commission today. It might be an automated submission. There could also be a recent change in the roadmap that we are not aware of. Either way, the RTX 3080 20GB SKU appears at the same time as RTX 3060 Ti, which launches next month. The original launch date for RTX 3080 20GB was also scheduled for the first week of December.

Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-submits-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-and-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-to-eec

https://portal.eaeunion.org/sites/odata/_layouts/15/Portal.EEC.Registry.UI/DisplayForm.aspx?ItemId=71930&ListId=d84d16d7-2cc9-4cff-a13b-530f96889dbc

Thoughts: Memory issues was a problem for a lot of people who wanted to use the 3080 as a work card, which meant 10GB GDDR6X weren't enough in many rendering situations. 20GB should be just enough to run software like DaVinci resolve at 4K or even higher with multiple video adjustments. Not sure how much higher they will hike the pricing however, though I imagine it wouldn't be too high since the competitor Radeon 6900XT would be out already by then.

Fasauceome · November 28, 2020

nobody needs a 3070 or 3080 with 10GB. Those are gaming cards only, those are for the people who want them.

some people will need these 20GB cards, these are the work cards.

porina · November 28, 2020

Various scenarios are possible:

1, previous rumour the 3080 20GB was cancelled was wrong

2, previous rumour the 3080 20GB was cancelled was right, but nvidia changed their mind since then (but then, why no new rumours of that?)

3, submission was originally made before it was cancelled, and was only just recently published

4, anything else we don't know

7 minutes ago, williamcll said:

Not sure how much higher they will hike the pricing however, though I imagine it wouldn't be too high since the competitor Radeon 6900XT would be out already by then.

nvidia historically can get away with a price premium, or more correctly, AMD generally tried to undercut them. Where it will fit remains to be seen. If it really is a 3080 with more vram, the 6800XT would be the more obvious comparison point. If VRAM quantity is really the big thing for specific uses, 20>16 and even if the cores are on average slightly slower, this could be more attractive over a 6900XT.

Advanced congratulations to the two people who will be able to buy a 6900XT this year.

Brooksie359 · November 29, 2020

16 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

nobody needs a 3070 or 3080 with 10GB. Those are gaming cards only, those are for the people who want them.

some people will need these 20GB cards, these are the work cards.

If you are planning on playing at 4k then 10 gb of vram gets eaten up real fast and when it is all gone you take a big performance hit. I would say that the 16 gb that amd is doing makes more sense for a 4k card as it will be plenty for any game for quite some time. The main issue is that games are just creeping up on the 10gb of vram usage in newer games at 4k.

Kisai · November 29, 2020

44 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

If you are planning on playing at 4k then 10 gb of vram gets eaten up real fast and when it is all gone you take a big performance hit. I would say that the 16 gb that amd is doing makes more sense for a 4k card as it will be plenty for any game for quite some time. The main issue is that games are just creeping up on the 10gb of vram usage in newer games at 4k.

NN training require lots of RAM. Like a 6GB card will not cut it at all. Just to load one NN for processing, not training, that I've been experimenting with, pulls 4GB of VRAM before even running a single thing on it. Right now a lot of NN stuff being experimented with seems to err on the side of low-quality inputs to conserve video memory. Like the underlying software for generating deepfakes right now, can only deal with 512x512 images and takes about a week to train on previous generation 2080ti hardware. So if you wanted to increase that to 1024x1024, the memory requirements quadruple, and the training speed decreases by the same amount.

Games on the other hand, very much depends on the output settings. Sure, you could run an 8K or 4K game, but it's a case of diminishing returns, if a game model isn't complex enough, then a 720p optimized model will look exactly the same at 4K and 8K even with a 4K texture pack. Just the overall rendered output at 4K or 8K.