May I Address Some Insensitivity?

[KageSong]

Okay. So Linus likes to say "my rights end where yours begin". He also likes to make fun of people who use stones for spiritual purposes. Some of you may already see that disappointment, but let me clarify.

 

I am Pagan, which is an umbrella that includes many religions that are officially recognized by many governments. Many Pagans use stones for spiritual means just as Christians prayer, and Buddhists meditate. I think it's far past time to realize that even though these comments are meant to tease about a fad, they are as insensitive as saying "It's silly to go to church and pray".

 

Thank you for your time. I'd like to see discussion on this topic, but it's mainly just a rant.

[Rocketdog2112]

For me, it's always been " Your rights end where mine begin". As far as religions and/or beliefs go, follow and practice what you are free to do. Just don't step on my toes stating what or who I follow/pray to doesn't exist. In the end, we will all know the truth.

[Andreas Lilja]

This thread will end well.

[KageSong]

7 minutes ago, Rocketdog2112 said:

For me, it's always been " Your rights end where mine begin". As far as religions and/or beliefs go, follow and practice what you are free to do. Just don't step on my toes stating what or who I follow/pray to doesn't exist. In the end, we will all know the truth.

I can get behind this. That's my problem that upsets me every time Linus starts teasing about shunganite.

[KageSong]

2 minutes ago, Andreas Lilja said:

This thread will end well.

I'm actually hoping some people will take it seriously. The more sensitive we are to others beliefs, the better the world can be.

[comander]

 

2 hours ago, KageSong said:

I'm actually hoping some people will take it seriously. The more sensitive we are to others beliefs, the better the world can be.

I'm going to overgeneralize this a bit and fall back on analogies. You do certainly have some valid points. 

Hypersensitivity CAN be bad. VERY VERY bad. Hypersensitivity can ruin lives for no real benefit. 

The analog in the health sciences would be allergic reactions and autoimmune disorders. 
There is a VERY real argument for gradual exposure therapy. It can literally be a matter of life or death and it's generally easier than trying to make the entire world accommodate you (or limiting yourself greatly).

 

At the end of the day, there are tradeoffs in how situations are handled. You should be free to live your life, and Linus should be free to live his. You are likely not compelled to listen to him. Learn to handle "adversity" with grace. Your great great grandparents would laugh knowing that their progeny is more worried about being slighted than starving. You are not going to be crucified, excluded from economic opportunity or shunned. 
 

I am willing to bet that you have the capacity to overcome whatever adversity you perceive here and I'll argue that you have a responsibility to yourself and others to be the best/strongest you possible. (multiple aspects define good/strong, resilience is just one)

[Kylan275]

I mean, I try not to be dismissive of people's beliefs, but I don't know what the quote about rights has to do with anything. It's not an issue of rights/freedom. The freedom to practice and believe what you want includes the freedom to not believe in it and think it's BS. That doesn't mean expressing that opinion is always the best thing to do, but it's an issue of tact and respect, not rights. Dismissiveness of religion isn't a denial of freedom. 

[handymanshandle]

Maybe it's the cynic in me, or maybe it's the "It's a Friday and I'd rather be posting about a rabbit" mood, but why care so much about someone else's personal beliefs? 

[fpo]

1 hour ago, KageSong said:

I'm actually hoping some people will take it seriously. The more sensitive we are to others beliefs, the better the world can be.

I never noticed his statements you proclaim.  

 

They're probably jokes. If not, who cares? 

 

This is prolly b8. 

[TetraSky]

Welcome to the internet. Sorry your beliefs and feelings are not being validated by others.

[piratemonkey]

And? Linus is Linus. You don't need to listen to him if you don't want to. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if you think that everyone should think the same thing and believe the same thing you do, maybe reevaluate the whole rights thing. and remember, a joke is a joke. and as long as the enjoyment derived from it is more than the offensiveness, I see no problem.

2 hours ago, KageSong said:

they are as insensitive as saying "It's silly to go to church and pray".

I see no problem with anyone saying that, nor saying something like that about your Pagan belief

[SansVarnic]

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