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CWellB
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Hi everyone, I have been looking around at 2tb drives and have settled on the SX8200 pro...

 

https://www.amazon.ca/XPG-SX8200-Gen3x4-3000MB-ASX8200PNP-2TT-C/dp/B07TY2TN64/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

 

As I am not in anyway an expert on this I am hoping the community could offer any reasons not to purchase this drive. Based on my understanding I think it's a good choice but I appreciate the wisdom that comes from this community. Thank you, anyone, that takes the time to read and respond with any opinions.

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It's inexpensive, fast, not a bad purchase. There are slightly cheaper options:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/dDVG3C/adata-swordfish-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-aswordfish-2t-c

That you could consider but the 8200 isn't bad.

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SX8200 Pro's problem is Adata constantly changing the controller and NAND used on it, which means benchmark results no longer and apply and in fact, performance does change. For example, the SSD launched with the SM2262EN controller but recently, changed to SM2262 which is only rated for 60% the write speed and effectively makes the SSD an SX8200. Shady brand for sure.

 

Bad news for Canadians though, cheapest PCIe 3.0 x4 SSD at 2TB that's good (so 3GB/s for read and writes roughly with DRAM cache) is the Crucial P5 at $321 followed by the HP EX950 at $338.

 

8 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

It's inexpensive, fast, not a bad purchase. There are slightly cheaper options:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/dDVG3C/adata-swordfish-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-aswordfish-2t-c

That you could consider but the 8200 isn't bad.

Swordfish is rated for 1800MB/s read and 1200MB/s write, so more like a PCIe 3.0 x2 SSD.

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17 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

SX8200 Pro's problem is Adata constantly changing the controller and NAND used on it, which means benchmark results no longer and apply and in fact, performance does change. For example, the SSD launched with the SM2262EN controller but recently, changed to SM2262 which is only rated for 60% the write speed and effectively makes the SSD an SX8200. Shady brand for sure.

 

Bad news for Canadians though, cheapest PCIe 3.0 x4 SSD at 2TB that's good (so 3GB/s for read and writes roughly with DRAM cache) is the Crucial P5 at $321 followed by the HP EX950 at $338.

 

Swordfish is rated for 1800MB/s read and 1200MB/s write, so more like a PCIe 3.0 x2 SSD.

Edited: added question

Thank you! Extremely valuable wisdom, exactly the reason I asked here!

 

If I may ask you, what are your thoughts on this alternative?

 

WD Black SN 750 2tb

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1927_1930&item_id=134013

 

Also I just looked into the SX8200..

 

Is it safe to assume the revised 8200 pro would still get 3k read speed and at least 1.6k write speeds? Please excuse my ignorance, in which use cases would I notice the lower write speed? I am wondering if it's primarily the 3k read speed that I would be benefitting from (loading games/gaming in general). If the write speed isn't as important, the 280$ 8200pro still seems like an option.

 

Unless of course (as I expect) there is more to it than this.

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5 minutes ago, CWellB said:

Thank you! Extremely valuable wisdom, exactly the reason I asked here!

 

If I may ask you, what are your thoughts on this alternative?

 

WD Black SN 750 2tb

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1927_1930&item_id=134013

Even better, which it'd better be with that price.

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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