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Youtube making ads non-optional, will not pay non-partners

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 YouTube will run ads on some creator videos, but it won’t give them any of the revenue

 

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Hi guys !!  ( this is not Austin ;) ), just saw on the verge that youtube will start  pushing ads in channels who did not meet the requirements for monetization. Let me give you guys some context. I have a Veterinary channel that was never intended for monetization, it is a very small channel with a dedicated base of viewers, it highlights surgery techniques, some news about our vet hospital. It makes me not very confortable knowing that youtube can start running ads, my viewers might thinks i´m making a buck out of it, when in fact youtube is getting money out of my work. What do you guys feel about this tech new ? 

 

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https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/18/21573937/youtube-ads-creators-partner-program-revenue-terms-of-service-update

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Just make it clear that you dont get anything out of it? Tbh it doesnt sound so bad knowing that hosting on YT is free even though there's a cost of running those servers. I do worry about how many ads they'll add in, 5mins per ad is so bad I might as well watch TV for example.

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Isn't great but seems logical. After all people are uploading and hosting large amounts of data to their servers for free, and that costs them money.

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Youtube then:

"We can't run ads on certain content because it hurts the brand image of the advertiser"

 

Youtube now:

"Sike"

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The wording sounds like they're telling everyone that they can run ads, not that they will. It seems unlikely to me they'll suddenly slap ads on every video that the creator can't monetize, or isn't monetized by a claim or some garbage like that, but YouTube is a business so I don't think I'll exactly blame them if they do

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Hah YT n adds ok tho

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Remember how every "free image hosting" site inevitably became more and more overcrowded with ads?

Yeah, sooner or later Google is going to decide it has already spent enough money in preventing the appearance of other video hosting sites and it's time to reap the profits, no exceptions. 

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Youtube recently updated it's Terms of Service, hinting at what is likely to come in the coming years, more ads.

 

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YouTube says it will start showing adverts on more videos, but won't necessarily pay the video-maker a cut. The company currently shares ad revenue with video-makers who are enrolled in its partnership scheme. YouTube says it will start putting ads on some videos from channels that are not part of its partnership scheme. It could also mean viewers see a higher number of ad. YouTube's Partner Programme is something that has to be applied for, and is only available to channels that have more than 1,000 subscribers and have clocked up 4,000 hours of people watching in a year. YouTube's own explanation of the application process says applications are put in a queue to be reviewed by humans, which can take more than a month. "YouTube's already making inordinately large amounts of money," "It's another policy change that seems likely to rankle with ordinary creators, who have often felt aggrieved that YouTube capitalises on their content without properly compensating them - or recognising their contribution to the success of the platform." Putting ads on all videos, regardless of earning potential, may be an attempt to push viewers to pay for YouTube's £11.99 a month ad-free premium product. The changes are being rolled out in the United States, with YouTube saying the new terms will "become available" for creators elsewhere next year. "The sheer number of creators trying to become popular on YouTube means there's always someone else willing to replace an unhappy creator who wants out,"

 

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While I can understand Youtube wanting to make more money, just like any business wants to. I hope they at least give creators the option to disable them on memorial videos, serious subject matters, and other videos in which ads would be frowned upon. I don't think they will however, as even TV networks do such a thing with regular content. 

 

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even more ads? youtube interrupts video's every 5 to 10 minutes to play ads in my experience, which is super annoying. i'm a big believer in supporting creators, so i don't enable adblock on it, but it's getting ever more tempting. having your video randomly interrupted for an ad every 5 or 10 minutes when you watch a lot of long content (30 minutes or longer) like me, it gets super annoying. 

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2 minutes ago, Ashley xD said:

even more ads? youtube interrupts video's every 5 to 10 minutes to play ads in my experience, which is super annoying. i'm a big believer in supporting creators, so i don't enable adblock on it, but it's getting ever more tempting. having your video randomly interrupted for an ad every 5 or 10 minutes when you watch a lot of long content (30 minutes or longer) like me, it gets super annoying. 

you get 2 force 6 second unskippable ads at the beginning and one ever 3 to 5 minutes. that's what i mostly get everywhere except LTT videos

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Just now, Franck said:

you get 2 force 6 second unskippable ads at the beginning and one ever 3 to 5 minutes. that's what i mostly get everywhere except LTT videos

that's plenty imo. like, it's at the limit of my patience already as it is. even more ads would be incredibly annoying. 

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I'm curious to what they will say is ad-friendly safe for non-partners compared to what a partner would post and be deemed not ad-friendly. I have a hunch they'll show ads on whatever yet continue to bully creators 

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If you people think ads are annoying, you haven't seen how persistently annoying Youtube is if you're watching it without being logged in. Haven't been using anything Google for years now and because Youtube has absolute and total monopoly, I'm forced to use it. But I don't need or want to be logged in. And it'll relentlessly bitch about cookies and then about logging in and if you block this nonsense it'll start and stop every video, making viewing experience such incredible chore, especially on lower end devices that take relatively long to load the damn videos. Google, stop being so obnoxiously annoying. Damn. How many times do we have to say NO means NO eh?

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Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

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Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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I'm just surprised it took them this long.

Hosting videos take a lot of money, putting ads on videos that are not monetized makes a shit ton of sense on a business standpoint. 

Thus far, they are at least blockable with ublock. Unlike with Twitch, which has unskippable ads now.

 

13 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

If you people think ads are annoying, you haven't seen how persistently annoying Youtube is if you're watching it without being logged in. Haven't been using anything Google for years now and because Youtube has absolute and total monopoly, I'm forced to use it. But I don't need or want to be logged in. And it'll relentlessly bitch about cookies and then about logging in and if you block this nonsense it'll start and stop every video, making viewing experience such incredible chore, especially on lower end devices that take relatively long to load the damn videos. Google, stop being so obnoxiously annoying. Damn. How many times do we have to say NO means NO eh?

I have to say, I have not experienced this at all on Android, using the Vivaldi browser to access Youtube (not logged in by default, unlike with Chrome).
I just click a video, watch it all, click the next video, watch it all... search for videos, go on various channels... never once got interrupted to ask me to log in or anything of the sort, unless I press the Sign Up button up top or the Library page. Which you shouldn't be pressing anyway.

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They hit the nail  right on the head, but they still dont realize that the nail they are hitting goes into their own coffin......

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1 hour ago, Ashley xD said:

even more ads? youtube interrupts video's every 5 to 10 minutes to play ads in my experience, which is super annoying. i'm a big believer in supporting creators, so i don't enable adblock on it, but it's getting ever more tempting. having your video randomly interrupted for an ad every 5 or 10 minutes when you watch a lot of long content (30 minutes or longer) like me, it gets super annoying. 

How you liking them Google Pixel 5G ads? 15 seconds of non-skippable brilliance. LIKE THE NIGHT PORAIT MODE. LIKE IT. I SAID LIKE IT. 

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this on top of what they just did with midroll ads. Really YT?

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For those that dont know, YT recently turned on midroll ads on all videos that had them turned off, and you have to go back and turn them off manually one by one.

 

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I actually find AdGuard to be much better. Easier to set that incredibly clunky uBlock with really stupid default list selection which I don't like at all. Plus, AdGuard has Stealth Mode which features few extra privacy features. I didn't like AdGuard before, but it's actually really nice.

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monopoly.  Monopoly never changes...

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