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AMD Radeon 6000 Stock "Seems Pretty Terrible" According to Hardware Unboxed

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UPDATE: Microcenter has said that RX6800 stock "will be extremely limited at launch."

https://videocardz.com/newz/microcenter-radeon-rx-6800-stock-will-be-extremely-limited-at-launch

Summary

Steve from Hardware Unboxed has spoke to several Australian retailers, and according to him, Radeon 6000 stock "seems pretty terrible." He says stock seems to be as terrible as the RTX 3080. This will differ from region to region although, as he has only talked to Australian retailers. Steve also says that AIB cards will come out November 25.

 

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(Availability) of these cards will be a hot topic when they release. So technically they are being released on the 18th (that’s when you are going to see our review) […] but I’m not really expecting you to buy one. I have spoken with quite a few retailers and stock seems pretty terrible, like RTX 3080 terrible. It will differ from region to region (I have only spoken to Australian retailers). […]

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The actual proper custom AIB cards that most of you are probably going to be interested in, they won’t be releasing for another week. So 25th they become available. Probably again in limited numbers. It won’t be until a few weeks before start seeing strong availability.

My thoughts

If this turns out to be true for all regions, then I guess it's going to be hard to buy a next-gen GPU until mid December at the earliest, which is a bummer. Also, so much for AMD saying they expect to have "great global availability at launch."

 

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 https://youtu.be/71zH0N8hrH0?t=484

 

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this is only the stock of cards in australia.

a relatively small country population wise, since he didn't state the actual stock and just says "seems pretty terrible" we don't know what exactly that means.  

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5 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

this is only the stock of cards in australia.

a relatively small country population wise, since he didn't state the actual stock and just says "seems pretty terrible" we don't know what exactly that means.  

Don't get your hopes up.

 

Ampere, PS5, Xbox, Zen 3, etc all this stuff sold out instantly and have had stock issues post launch, there's zero chance the 6000 series won't have the same issues. On top of that RDNA 2 chip production is likely dead last priority for AMD when they've got Zen3/Epyc, both consoles, and data center GPUs to make on 7nm.

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11 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

this is only the stock of cards in australia.

a relatively small country population wise, since he didn't state the actual stock and just says "seems pretty terrible" we don't know what exactly that means.  

I'm sure both of us know that every American and European unit will be accounted for the foreseeable future.

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1 minute ago, illegalwater said:

Don't get your hopes up.

 

Ampere, PS5, Xbox, Zen 3, etc all this stuff sold out instantly and have had stock issues post launch, there's zero chance the 6000 series won't have the same issues. On top of that RDNA 2 chip production is likely dead last priority for AMD when they've got Zen3/Epyc, both consoles, and data center GPUs to make on 7nm.

i don't buy cards at launch lol, i'll wait a few months for everything to be back in stock with msrp prices.

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wait so just the reference amd 6000 cards are releasing on the 18th and there is about the same stock as the 3080? just the founders or do they include the AIB cards also when talking about 3080? because if the stock of just the reference amd cards is about the same as all of the 3080s then this might be good news actually

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3 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

wait so just the stock amd 6000 cards are releasing on the 18th and there is about the same stock as the 3080? just the founders or do they include the AIB cards also when talking about 3080? because if the stock of just the stock amd cards is about the same as all of the 3080s then this might be good news actually

Good spot on that detail. Shall have to wait and see.

 

I was thinking, given that both AMD and nvidia launches are in a generally similar timescale, that both sides would likely have started planning the production numbers around the same time also, from similar data. That's not to say they would have come to the same conclusions on what numbers should be, but if demand now is higher than what would have been previously expected, then same shortage problems will be expected. The problems nvidia have gearing up additional production would likely affect AMD too, although AMD may have some small benefit from going 2nd.

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everything is going to be limited with stock this year. Even with AMD pushing to get 1 million zen3 CPUs sold before the end of this year they will be a hard thing to get.

also I wouldn't be surprised if outside of NA and Europe everyone else got a limited stock

 

if they truly felt limited they wouldn't have sampled every publication with 2 GPUs

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23 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

if they truly felt limited they wouldn't have sampled every publication with 2 GPUs

A couple hundred GPUs at most isn't going to make a meaningful difference.

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They could have 500,000 GPUs and they will still sell out instantly. Especially since I've been hearing murmurs across various websites mining performance is going to be great AND bitcoin is approaching $20,000 again AND etheurum is almost at $500. You probably won't be able to buy a GPU for the next 3 months 

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2 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

everything is going to be limited with stock this year. Even with AMD pushing to get 1 million zen3 CPUs sold before the end of this year they will be a hard thing to get.

also I wouldn't be surprised if outside of NA and Europe everyone else got a limited stock

 

if they truly felt limited they wouldn't have sampled every publication with 2 GPUs

JaysTwoCents was saying that AMD hasn't been sampling the RX 6900XT to almost anybody.

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Just now, AluminiumTech said:

JaysTwoCents was saying that AMD hasn't been sampling the RX 6900XT to almost anybody.

I have yet to actually see one

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4 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I have yet to actually see one

AMD was saying they'd release them later so it's possible they haven't been sent to reviewers yet.

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1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

AMD was saying they'd release them later so it's possible they haven't been sent to reviewers yet.

Yeah they are on December 8th and I would expect it's just from the yield difference 

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It has been suggested that the PS5 and Xbox series has used up a huge amount of AMDs fab capacity at TSMC, causing the shortage of Zen 3 and likely 6800s.

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1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

JaysTwoCents was saying that AMD hasn't been sampling the RX 6900XT to almost anybody.

they aren't out for another month

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3 hours ago, BachChain said:

A couple hundred GPUs at most isn't going to make a meaningful difference.

its more like a few thousand. stock at 3000 launch was something like 30-50k. taking 1-2k is a major cut

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35 minutes ago, Monkey Dust said:

It has been suggested that the PS5 and Xbox series has used up a huge amount of AMDs fab capacity at TSMC, causing the shortage of Zen 3 and likely 6800s.

amd likely made the APUs earlier in the year. they've been buying up every bit of 7nm that they can. someone canceled some 7nm and apparently AMD within the hour bought it.

They've got a million zen 3 chips being pushed out before the end of the year.

 

AMD got 70,000 chiplets alone going into 1 supercomputer this year.

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But remember guys, Frank Azor said on Twitter that it wouldn't be a paper launch! So clearly there will be stock for everyone! /s

AMD really needs to stop their staff from saying this shit... Maybe they could hire a marketing team while they're at it!

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3 hours ago, BuckGup said:

bitcoin is approaching $20,000 again AND etheurum is almost at $500

people who buy new cards for mining are dead to me, why not go buy a fuck ton of used vega 64's?

or 2060 KO's (i dont actually know about these for mining just read something about them being good since its a 2080 chip)

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9 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

people who buy new cards for mining are dead to me, why not go buy a fuck ton of used vega 64's?

or 2060 KO's (i dont actually know about these for mining just read something about them being good since its a 2080 chip)

That's not how mining works. The reason people go for new cards is they are much faster at mining and use less power. It's like in the old days were a car reaching 100mph was peak engineering and now any old corolla can do it. Same goes for GPUs and ASICs for mining

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9 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

people who buy new cards for mining are dead to me, why not go buy a fuck ton of used vega 64's?

or 2060 KO's (i dont actually know about these for mining just read something about them being good since its a 2080 chip)

Unless you're living in your parents basement and not paying for your electricity, older cards are basically worthless as they can't mine fast enough to make a profit.

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2 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

That's not how mining works. The reason people go for new cards is they are much faster at mining and use less power. It's like in the old days were a car reaching 100mph was peak engineering and now any old corolla can do it. Same goes for GPUs and ASICs for mining

but when you can pick up two used vega 64's for the price of a rx 6800xt it doesn't make sense lol, i get that you make more return off of a 6800xt but the buy in cost is also something to factor in (at least i would)

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3 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

but when you can pick up two used vega 64's for the price of a rx 6800xt it doesn't make sense lol, i get that you make more return off of a 6800xt but the buy in cost is also something to factor in (at least i would)

Yeah but it doesn't scale how you think. A VEGA64 will cost like $285-$300 and you make maybe $1/day and use 200W. A 6800 will cost you $579 and the guesstimates put it at $3-$5/day at 130W. So buy a 6800 for $579 and mine on it for 3-6 months, break even, and then resell it for MSRP or above because there is no stock available. 

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