Ryzen 5900x high temps

[walkerdeath]

Hello everyone!

 

I was able to get a ryzen 5900x in my hands to upgrade my poor i7-6700, but since that upgrade I'm having some trouble with the cpu temps, from idling on 30-40ºC with the intel I'm now idling from 45ºC to almost 60ºC. I tried formatting the pc and being fresh it was idling at 40ºC but after installing all the things I use it's doing all of this again. I'm now with 4 chrome tabs opened, a zoom meeting, slack and android studio (doing nothing) opened and the cpu is at 57ºC.

I don't know if I have something wrong, I hope someone cal help me!  Any help will be much appreciated!

 

My specs:

Ryzen 9 5900x

Msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi with 1.40 BIOS as of msi dragon center, but the version I installed was this "7C84v14"

32gb 4x8 corsair vengeance 3000Mhz

Zotac 1080ti extreme amp core edition

nfortec sagitta 1050w power supply (which I also noticed is making more noise since I upgraded the cpu)

DEEP COOL Castle 360 RGB V2 aio liquid cooler with thermal grizzly kryonaut 

Fractal design define 7

 

Thank you very much!

[Skiiwee29]

Higher idle temps, 45-55/60c is completely normal as is 10-15c swings in idle temps every few seconds is 100% normal with Ryzen 3000 and 5000 CPUs with the way they're tuned 

[Naijin]

2 minutes ago, walkerdeath said:

Hello everyone!

 

I was able to get a ryzen 5900x in my hands to upgrade my poor i7-6700, but since that upgrade I'm having some trouble with the cpu temps, from idling on 30-40ºC with the intel I'm now idling from 45ºC to almost 60ºC. I tried formatting the pc and being fresh it was idling at 40ºC but after installing all the things I use it's doing all of this again. I'm now with 4 chrome tabs opened, a zoom meeting, slack and android studio (doing nothing) opened and the cpu is at 57ºC.

I don't know if I have something wrong, I hope someone cal help me!  Any help will be much appreciated!

 

My specs:

Ryzen 9 5900x

Msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi with 1.40 BIOS as of msi dragon center, but the version I installed was this "7C84v14"

32gb 4x8 corsair vengeance 3000Mhz

Zotac 1080ti extreme amp core edition

nfortec sagitta 1050w power supply (which I also noticed is making more noise since I upgraded the cpu)

DEEP COOL Castle 360 RGB V2 aio liquid cooler with thermal grizzly kryonaut 

Fractal design define 7

 

Thank you very much!

What are your 100% load temps?

[Rooked]

That's normal. You know what they say about chrome tabs!

[boggy77]

ryzen runs hotter on idle than intel. what are your load temps?

[walkerdeath]

30 minutes ago, Naijin said:

What are your 100% load temps?

 

25 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

ryzen runs hotter on idle than intel. what are your load temps?

 

I'm sorry guys for replying late, I'm at work right now  I haven't really tried any games or anything to stress the cpu, I thought the higher temps on amd was a thing of the past, clearly I was wrong  I think I will have to tune the fans of the case acordingly as right now I have them to ramp up to max when the cpu gets to 60ºC and it's quite annoying, it does it more often than I'd like to....

Thank you very much guys!

[Naijin]

2 minutes ago, walkerdeath said:

 

 

I'm sorry guys for replying late, I'm at work right now  I haven't really tried any games or anything to stress the cpu, I thought the higher temps on amd was a thing of the past, clearly I was wrong  I think I will have to tune the fans of the case acordingly as right now I have them to ramp up to max when the cpu gets to 60ºC and it's quite annoying, it does it more often than I'd like to....

Thank you very much guys!

Well, a 5900x isn't really the most power efficient chip you can get. However, it should run cooler than an equivalent Intel chip, and at the same time consume less power.
AMD chips do produce more heat on idle (as @skiiwee29) stated, but not more or less than Intel does

[walkerdeath]

4 minutes ago, Naijin said:

Well, a 5900x isn't really the most power efficient chip you can get. However, it should run cooler than an equivalent Intel chip, and at the same time consume less power.
AMD chips do produce more heat on idle (as @skiiwee29) stated, but not more or less than Intel does

I get it, I just thought coming from an i7 that the temps would be more or less the same, but if it's normal then no worries, I'll just tune the fan speeds  Thank you very much!

[Skiiwee29]

6 minutes ago, walkerdeath said:

I get it, I just thought coming from an i7 that the temps would be more or less the same, but if it's normal then no worries, I'll just tune the fan speeds  Thank you very much!

1000 and 2000 series CPUs behaved more what you expected, but it drastically changed with 3000 and 5000 series and it has thrown a LOT of people for a loop, but its 100% normal. 

[Hamsandwich283]

Hi all,

Just to jump in on the conversation, I'm not sure but temps seem a bit high for me as well,

 

Question 1. I have the ryzen 7 5800x and I see conflicting numbers from bios to windows, is this normal?

 

BIOS idle

- CPU = 50°c / CPU package = 61°c

 

Windows ryzen master idle

- CPU = 32-35°c with the occasional spike to 40-45°c

 

I have tried 2 different coolers being a single fan Corsair AIO and a noctua NH-U12S with the noctua results being the best out of the 2 (above results), the AIO was about 5-10°c hotter

 

When I put the CPU under a full load across all cores in cenabench and CPU burner the temp quickly goes to 80°c then it creeps gradually up to 90°c (ryzen masters rated max for the CPU) just about as the Cenabench run ends.

 

My score seems to be about on par with what I see online so great, but those temps seem a bit to high to me

 

 

Single core run: it stays steady throughout the hole run at just below 60°c

 

Multiple core run:

 

Score:

[walkerdeath]

20 minutes ago, Hamsandwich283 said:

Hi all,

Just to jump in on the conversation, I'm not sure but temps seem a bit high for me as well,

 

Question 1. I have the ryzen 7 5800x and I see conflicting numbers from bios to windows, is this normal?

 

BIOS idle

- CPU = 50°c / CPU package = 61°c

 

Windows ryzen master idle

- CPU = 32-35°c with the occasional spike to 40-45°c

 

I have tried 2 different coolers being a single fan Corsair AIO and a noctua NH-U12S with the noctua results being the best out of the 2 (above results), the AIO was about 5-10°c hotter

 

When I put the CPU under a full load across all cores in cenabench and CPU burner the temp quickly goes to 80°c then it creeps gradually up to 90°c (ryzen masters rated max for the CPU) just about as the Cenabench run ends.

 

My score seems to be about on par with what I see online so great, but those temps seem a bit to high to me

 

 

Single core run: it stays steady throughout the hole run at just below 60°c

 

Multiple core run:

 

Score:

 

To also add more info on mine as I've just remembered reading your post, my temps in the bios are about 36ºC which was what most annoyed me, I thought that difference was because in the BIOS the cpu was just chilling, but seeing your cpu temp on BIOS is 50ºC or over it idk...

[skealton]

I have also a ryzen 5900x but couples with an rtx 3090.

It is cooled with an aio corsair 100hi in a push pull configuration on top and 3 120 ql120 side in intake, 2 artic bionix in bottom intake and a ql120 fan for rear exhaust. 

My Mother board is a asus rog crosshair viii hero. 

Everything in a lian li o11 dynamic xl case. 

I definitely get high idle temp at 65 in hw pro

Whereas in bios it is sitting between 47 and 52.

I have first notice that bios and hw monitor pro or ryzen master have using the same temp prob for the cpu temp. 

 

After after cinebench I peak to 80 degrees C. 

Mother board temps is at its peak at 33 and ram at 46 after a heavy load. Which seems OK for me.

Gpu gets to 69 degrees after 1 gour of intensive use at 100% load or

After intensive gaming session. 

Only concerne is the cpu temp. 

I would like it to be 5 to 10 degrees lower. 

Removing side panel gived me 3 degrees max.

Maybe an asus rog default profile I have t seen ? 

My settings in bios are stock except for xmp.

[naike]

I also have the x570 tomahawk, 5900x paired with an rtx 3080.

Like you, I see very high idle temps, it basically never goes under 39c, with ~24c ambient.

It seems one of the issues is that my CPU is always boosting at 3.9-4.3GHz even when just looking at the desktop in windows without anything "extra" running in the background. I've never seen it even hit 3.7GHz lol.

I've tried disabling some features like the nVidia overlay and such, but it has not brought down the CPU boosting, windows is on the balanced profile.

 

For now, I can live with it, and I'll wait for a new BIOS update to see if it calms things down.

Unless you have other suggestions obviously.

 

Edit: The CPU clock was how windows reported it, in HWMonitor it seems all cores are at 3.55GHz not 4GHZ, so windows is reporting it incorrectly.

Also Ryzen Master sometimes reports the CPU temps to be around 10c lower than any other program.

[ozzpala]

@naike ive got the exact same motherboard as you however im running a 5600x, just wondering what you load cinebench r20 temps are? and do you have PBO enabled in bios as mine sets auto automatically but if I manualy enable it I get higher scores and boost however temperature tops at 79 degrees 

[naike]

14 hours ago, ozzpala said:

@naike ive got the exact same motherboard as you however im running a 5600x, just wondering what you load cinebench r20 temps are? and do you have PBO enabled in bios as mine sets auto automatically but if I manualy enable it I get higher scores and boost however temperature tops at 79 degrees 

My temps in CB r23 were around 65-68c in the MC and SC benchmarks, average over both runs was 66c according to HWiNFO.

The scores were 20,085 MC and 1583 SC.
I'm using the Arctic LF II 360 as my CPU cooler, top mounted with a relatively silent fan profile (max speed during benchmarks was 740rpm).
I control the pump with a separate header.

 

I did not enable any performance modes in windows and I've left the CPU/RAM settings completely at stock (besides enabling virtualization and XMP).
So PBO is still at auto.

[mirai99]

I am also observing high idle temps.

It is literally 55c idle, 65c full load...
X570 Tomahawk, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280, no overclock


Can it be cause XMP on my RAM is 1.45v?

[Valentyn]

I'm getting completely messed up idle temps on my 5950X with Noctua D15s. I'm idling in the 70's

I get LOWER temps under load than on idle on the desktop. it's the CPU voltage, and the Windows power plans. It's jacking the voltage on the desktop when "idling", then when I apply load to the CPU. Cinebench, gaming, AID64, the voltage normalises, and temps are great.

I get lower temps under max load, and the CPU ACTUALLY idles on the Power Saver plan in Windows, but not on Balance and Performance.

 

 

[pqnsquared]

On 12/21/2020 at 10:53 AM, Valentyn said:

I'm getting completely messed up idle temps on my 5950X with Noctua D15s. I'm idling in the 70's

I get LOWER temps under load than on idle on the desktop. it's the CPU voltage, and the Windows power plans. It's jacking the voltage on the desktop when "idling", then when I apply load to the CPU. Cinebench, gaming, AID64, the voltage normalises, and temps are great.

I get lower temps under max load, and the CPU ACTUALLY idles on the Power Saver plan in Windows, but not on Balance and Performance.

 

 

I can totally second you on your findings. I thought that the new Epic Games Store problem might be the issue, but that wasn't the case. It's when I go into any power plan other than power saver, that the 5950x idles at 50 to 60C. Do you have a work around other than changing the Power Plan to Power Saver?

[Valentyn]

9 hours ago, pqnsquared said:

I can totally second you on your findings. I thought that the new Epic Games Store problem might be the issue, but that wasn't the case. It's when I go into any power plan other than power saver, that the 5950x idles at 50 to 60C. Do you have a work around other than changing the Power Plan to Power Saver?

Robert Hallock said their might be a parasitic background app.

So I removed any RGB control software, and Epic games launcher.

Issue was still somewhat present, turned out when DropBox, and iCloud Drive are syncing lots of files it will also peg the CPU;

Although afterwards it's now fine.

iCue, Asus Armory / Aura Sync, and Epic were my main issues. I'm now running the latest AMD chipset drivers, windows 10 20H update, and balanced power plan.
Idle temps are now fine.

 

 

 

[Calin1996]

I have the same problem. I did a fresh Windows install, no apps running, 60c with Windows Balanced plan. The only fix I’ve found was downloading the Ryzen power plans from 1mus(don’t know the name). Now it idles at 3.6ghz, 0,95v, but with a lot of spikes to 4.9gh, 60c in 2 seconds. I’ve tried everything to solve it but nothing changed..

I have a Asus Crosshair Hero Viii wi fi, 36gb Vengence 3600mhz, Rtx 3090. In Bios it stays at 3600mh with 1,38v! At 55c. I don’t know if I just return it or wait for a bios update.

[KulkieT]

i have ryzen 5600 and my idle is aroudn 30-31 C,what cooler do u use ? mine is noctua 14s

maybe dragon center messes up ypur power management ,and force cpu to maximum performance wo break

 

now i saw noctua u12 s,,,,you bougth not sufificient cooler ,for 5600 would be 65w just ok but for 5800/5900 u need more cooling 

[mangekyo]

On 11/10/2020 at 10:23 AM, Skiiwee29 said:

Higher idle temps, 45-55/60c is completely normal as is 10-15c swings in idle temps every few seconds is 100% normal with Ryzen 3000 and 5000 CPUs with the way they're tuned 

How sure are you about this? My 5900x is idling around 60c and having some random temperature bursts. Problem is, it makes my fans jump from quiet to crazy all the time. Its really annoying. 

[caffeinedesign]

i think there isn't any reason to worry about temps

i worried with 76° while playing cyberpunk 2077, but doing a research i found various article quoting this:

 

 

Quote

 

"Yes. I want to be clear with everyone that AMD views temps up to 90C (5800X/5900X/5950X) and 95C (5600X) as typical and by design for full load conditions. Having a higher maximum temperature supported by the silicon and firmware allows the CPU to pursue higher and longer boost performance before the algorithm pulls back for thermal reasons," Hallock said.

"Is it the same as Zen 2 or our competitor? No. But that doesn't mean something is 'wrong.' These parts are running exactly as-designed, producing the performance results we intend," Hallock continued.

 

 

[Asryan]

Hi, I've just tried some oc with curve + pbo + dark hero switch here are the settings i've used

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For the curve, i'm not sure I understood it i put -20 on best cores, -25 on second, -30 on the others. However my idle temps RISED a lot, i'm close to 60c idle, what could i to do fix that

When using a 4.6 / 1.2v profile, temps are only around 40c?

[alazhar]

On 12/12/2020 at 1:35 PM, naike said:

I also have the x570 tomahawk, 5900x paired with an rtx 3080.

Like you, I see very high idle temps, it basically never goes under 39c, with ~24c ambient.

It seems one of the issues is that my CPU is always boosting at 3.9-4.3GHz even when just looking at the desktop in windows without anything "extra" running in the background. I've never seen it even hit 3.7GHz lol.

I've tried disabling some features like the nVidia overlay and such, but it has not brought down the CPU boosting, windows is on the balanced profile.

 

For now, I can live with it, and I'll wait for a new BIOS update to see if it calms things down.

Unless you have other suggestions obviously.

 

Edit: The CPU clock was how windows reported it, in HWMonitor it seems all cores are at 3.55GHz not 4GHZ, so windows is reporting it incorrectly.

Also Ryzen Master sometimes reports the CPU temps to be around 10c lower than any other program.

Hello, I know this is 6 months late but I just built my new pc ( Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3080Ti in Aorus x570 Master MB) I seem to get the exact seem issue where I am idle at the desktop and after 15 minutes or so the clock speed is running at full speed. Has they foun any fix to this yet?