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As ASUS employee warns gamers that AMD 6800XT will be in very limited supply at launch, expected to sell out within minutes.

2 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Crucial and Hynix don't make any GDDR6 ?

They do but many get supply from Samsung, Nvidia being one of them.

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3 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Crucial and Hynix don't make any GDDR6 ?

Also note SK Hynix GDDR6 is on 21nm node and far less desirable than Samsung GDDR6 on 10LPP.

 

Micron was the initial GDDR6 supplier for Nvidia but they switch to Samsung, again because their GDDR6 is superior. Micron only supplies GDDR6X to Nvidia now, being that only they make it.

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3 hours ago, TrigrH said:

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Fail.

Seriously, continous evidence of AMDs pettiness and self-overhyping. Is it too much to ask that either they be responsible and not say shit they cant back up, or just to shutup and let the product speak.

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I guess like the 3000 series, it's been so long since a big GPU release. Combined with the 'optimistic' pricing of the RTX 20xx cards, there are a lot of people out there desperate for a GPU upgrade. Waiting to build inventory would have been nice, but I guess they really wanted them available for Christmas. It's disappointing, but not surprising. 

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I'm not surprised at all. Even laptop is hard to find nowadays here because of the pandemic. 

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12 hours ago, Monkey Dust said:

here are a lot of people out there desperate for a GPU upgrade.

I'd say there is more free government money out there and people have a lot more time on their hands so they play more games, play more games want better system.

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Hmm, well I do wonder how much effect in general memory may have. New PC hardware aside, new consoles and smartphones just eat it...

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On 11/7/2020 at 3:51 AM, Master Disaster said:

Why would as ASUS employee care how many cards AMD sell?

Right, why would an ASUS employee care about how many cards he sells?

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On 11/7/2020 at 4:51 AM, Master Disaster said:

Why would as ASUS employee care how many cards AMD sell?

Wait....what? 

 

Of course Asus is concerned about how many cards sell.  Asus are selling AMD chips in their cards.  

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I dont blame people from taking advantage of buying multiple gpu's and reselling for a profit. I blame people buying them at the marked up prices created the market for it to work so well. care hot take.....

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On 11/8/2020 at 6:48 PM, Energycore said:

Right, why would an ASUS employee care about how many cards he sells?

 

1 hour ago, miagisan said:

Wait....what? 

 

Of course Asus is concerned about how many cards sell.  Asus are selling AMD chips in their cards.  

Asus are selling AMD GPUs which they purchase as GPUs and use to build their own cards. Its of no relevance to ASUS how many cards AMD or any other AIBs sell.

 

The cards launching on release day will all be AMD cards, built entirely by AMD and sold by AMD directly (Frontier Edition cards). The custom AIB variants won't launch till a few weeks after launch day.

 

I could understand an ASUS rep trying to boost sales of ASUS cards but not AMD cards.

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12 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

 

Asus are selling AMD GPUs which they purchase as GPUs and use to build their own cards. Its of no relevance to ASUS how many cards AMD or any other AIBs sell.

 

The cards launching on release day will all be AMD cards, built entirely by AMD and sold by AMD directly (Frontier Edition cards). The custom AIB variants won't launch till a few weeks after launch day.

 

I could understand an ASUS rep trying to boost sales of ASUS cards but not AMD cards.

Honestly I don't think this is the case anyway. Zen 3 availability has also been very low. The world's fabs were not ready for this massive demand for high performance silicon, neither were the silicon mines.

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To be expected. AMD does not have a magic stick to prevent bots from placing order or to multiply their stock. Everything they said in regards to that is just a PR nonsense.

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This news shouldn't be surprising in the least, and anyone thinking AMD would have tons of stock at launch is either new to the space, or has their head so far into AMDs junk they won't see light for days.

 

There's many more parts to a GPU than there is to a CPU, so it's easier to have stock issues. There's a worldwide pandemic, which can result in supply shortages, difficulty simply shipping the items, as well as drastically increased demand (which in itself is multi pronged, as it accounts for both demand from people being stuck at home, as well as the large increase in performance).

 

Most GPU launches have had shortages of supply. In the state we're in, it really shouldn't be a shock that it's worse than usual.

 

On 11/7/2020 at 1:29 AM, Master Disaster said:

Then isn't it sensible to postpone for a few weeks, maybe a month and let some stock build up?

 

The bad press from postponing won't be as bad as the bad press from selling out in minutes then having cards on eBay for 2x the price.

 

Heck they could have simply announced a date 2 weeks later to begin with then nobody would have been any wiser.

Why? It's not like they haven't been building supply in the meantime. They knew their launch date, it's not a surprise to them, and waiting makes absolutely no sense. Just get what you have out the door and to customers. People crying that they can't spend hundreds of their dollars on a luxury item is pathetic.

On 11/7/2020 at 1:40 AM, The_Murdoch said:

You can't really ever have enough for a launch now adays... say you postponed for like 5 months and made more then you could ever need on release, one that's 5 months of delays that would be a huge advantage to competitors, also having too many they may not sell them all right away, also requires a larger initial investment before returns.
But really, that argument is reductio ad absurdum.
 

Really, Nvidia dropped the ball really really hard, even if they drop it a bit, it'll be still be better off than Nvidia, also, each day they aren't at market, there are more and more purchases of Nvidia products that will reduce their market size. So you can wait and build up what you can, but at some point, you just gotta shit or get off the pot. They must have decided that that was the date that would balance things out to a state that was acceptable to them.

Funny how you say Nvidia dropped the ball, yet AMD is heading in the same direction. It's simply demand outpacing supply.

IMO it makes absolutely no sense to wait. Just sell what you have.

On 11/7/2020 at 2:16 AM, TrigrH said:

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Fail.

At least he can cash in on that $10...
Really, though, if he sold the card he needs for work before he had a new one in hand, he deserves what he gets. It's the only way he'll learn.

On 11/7/2020 at 7:11 AM, Monkey Dust said:

I guess like the 3000 series, it's been so long since a big GPU release. Combined with the 'optimistic' pricing of the RTX 20xx cards, there are a lot of people out there desperate for a GPU upgrade. Waiting to build inventory would have been nice, but I guess they really wanted them available for Christmas. It's disappointing, but not surprising. 

I mean, if you're looking at higher end competitive AMD cards, it's been what...6? 7 years?

On 11/9/2020 at 3:06 PM, GodSeph said:

I dont blame people from taking advantage of buying multiple gpu's and reselling for a profit. I blame people buying them at the marked up prices created the market for it to work so well. care hot take.....

Basically the same premise with drugs.

Attacking the supply is rarely the answer, you have to take away the demand. There will always be supply.

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