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Upgrading my RIG (Advice needed on PSU)

Budget (including currency): Originally Planned 30k to 35k but due to lack of parts for the chosen GPU, i ended up at a price point of 60k which is the maximum i can afford to spend right now. Currency is Indian Rupee.

Country: India

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Entertainment only. AAA-rated pc games at 1080p resolution (High or Very-High but not Ultra graphic settings) on a 43-inch 4k tv (60hz refresh rate) sitting at about 3 metres distance from the display screen on a couch. In future I might try VR-games/movies.

 

More details: I want to upgrade my GPU.

My current computer has : 

GTX 750ti, i5-650 and 1x8gb ram on a Intel chipset "H" motherboard for which power is supplied through a corsair vs450w 80+ psu.

I know my current computer can technically support the GPU i have my eyes on, the "Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6G Graphics Card, 2X Windforce Fans, 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, Gv-N166SOC-6GD Video Card".

But to avoid cpu bottlenecking (i dont want FPS drops/limitations in games), I have decided to buy a new processor, mobo, ram as listed here:  Parts planned for purchase


I dont really care for things like noiseless operation, power efficiency, etc. features that come with PSUs that are 80+Bronze (or higher) certified and i know my current psu, the corsair vs450W 80+ White can easily handle my rig even after i upgrade the said parts.

However, i do see a Corsair vs650W 80+ bronze psu that is bundled with a very-similar (not exactly the same) corsair cabinet/case that i plan to buy (as listed above in pcpartpicker.com) at amazon.in

I could afford it, but it would be reaaaaally stretching it in terms of budget, as i have already gone up from my originally planned budget of 30k to 60k, but it's indeed something i can afford if i wanted to but at the same time i know i dont really need the psu upgrade. Not unless under heavy load, my upgraded rig's power output reaches 450W or higher. (which is not possible i believe, but i am slightly concerned about it since the graphics card's suggested psu wattage is 450W, i tend to use PSUs that r slightly higher than the recommended specs to be on the safe side).

I expect after the parts upgrade, my new rig's power output to be around 315W (this is with my other additional components installed, like a 1tb Western Digital Hard-Drive, mouse, keyboard and a 5.1 speakers....i literally have no other pc components that could very well possibly lead to a higher wattage consumption than around 315W )

My Question to the community is, should i get the 650W corsair power supply or is it not really something to worry about? I know having too low or too high psu wattage rating would lead to other issues but at the same time i also know that 450W to 650W PSUs shouldn't be an issue for this kinda build.

Just to make it clear, as i said before, i dont care for features like noiseless operation, power efficiency, etc. but what i DO care about is that, under heavy load or very light load, my current psu should be able to supply the necessary power consistently to the whole computer. (Light load being when my computer is in sleep mode and heavy load being when i have been gaming on very-high 1080p graphic settings on a cpu/gpu intense AAA-rated game for over 6-hours straight. I know for a fact under normal load, which would be when i am browsing the internet, watching a movie, social-media, etc. my current psu is sufficient).

 

Also, speaking of power, i tend to experience power fluctuations sometimes, (my home experiences Low voltage or high voltage because of which i use this UPS APC UPS ) and i know PSU has nothing to do with this, but i felt like it would be wise to point out that i use a UPS and why the usage of an UPS is necessary for clarity as this whole question is mainly about power supply.

Apologies that I typed so much for y'all to read 😅, I'm new to linus's forums, i have been a subscriber to his channel(s) since he worked for NCIX but i never joined the forums because there was no reason to do so up until now but now that i am finally here, i must admit i am fairly excited to interact with the community 😬

Thanks to whomever that reads all this with patience and replies asap to help me out as I would be making the purchase of all parts within the next 3 days from now so would be really nice to hear from y'all before that 😀

Gonna leave links below for all the parts that i plan to purchase in-case anybody wants to know ( the links that lead to individual products in the pcpartcpicker.com are incorrect as i dont plan to buy from newegg.com but instead from amazon.in):

Processor : i5-9400F
Mobo : MSI B365M PRO-VDH
RAM : Crucial Ballistix 2666 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G26C16U4B (Black)

Video Card : Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6G Graphics Card, 2X Windforce Fans, 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, Gv-N166SOC-6GD Video Card

Case/Cabinet (my current choice as i dont believe i require psu upgrade) : Corsair Carbide Series CC-9011050-WW Mid-Tower Steel Gaming Case with Red LED (Black)
Case/Cabinet+psu combo (if it's necessary to upgrade my psu to 650W) : Corsair Carbide SPEC-05 Mid-Tower Gaming Case with CV650 PSU (CC-9020125-UK) - Black (i have a universal power socket at my home already to go with this UK version of psu)


Cheers to y'all..
- Shiva666


 

 

 

 

 

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If they're still in stock, probably you'd want to go for Corsair CX550, it's on the B tier on the LTT PSU tier. I did research for days before for the good PSU for kind of similar build, and stumbled on it for the good one, unfortunately have to get the CX550M (kind of more expensive and unfortunately more 'worse' than the non-modular one) one since CX550 are all out of stock lol

 

Another options would be on the tier list, which @mahyar linked above.

15 minutes ago, Shiva666 said:

I know having too low or too high psu wattage rating would lead to other issues

Too low, yes, you'd *poof* that PSU. But too high, it's no problem at all except for the efficiency curve.

Humor me, as you should do.

 

Daily drivers:

 

Acer Aspire E5-475G

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4GB Micron DDR4 + 4GB Team Group DDR4 PC19200

120 GB WD Green M.2 SATA SSD + 480 GB Pioneer APS-SL3N SATA SSD

Windows 10 Single Language x64

 

Some old computer laying around as my HTPC

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 1.8GHz || (fake lol) NVIDIA GeForce GT730 2GB DDR3

Some random old motherboard. Works fine tho.

512 MB + 512 MB random DDR memory

40GB IDE HDD + 1 TB old laptop SATA HDD, got bad sector unfortunately

Linux Mint 20 Ulyana Xfce x64

Some old TCL CRT TV laying around + RCA to HDMI converter

 

Xiaomi Redmi Note 8

4GB RAM, 64GB Internal Storage 

64GB SanDisk Ultra (80MB/s Read) External Storage

MIUI 11 Global

Aukey Turbo Charger PA-U28 QC2.0 + Aukey CB-CD4 PVC Type-C Cable

 

Audio

Some random home-theater speakers I took freely from someplace and big-ass bass with old computer speaker amplifier. It sounds good af tho.

dbE DJ100 Headphone

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1 minute ago, Shiva666 said:

so my current psu, the "corsair vs450W 80+ White" would be insufficient?
Also, Thanks for the PSUs tier link, it was informative 😀

it is on edge of working but i suggest you to change it will limit your upgrade path

if it was useful give it a like :) btw if your into linux pay a visit here  and i will be thankful if you send me an opinion here  

 

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3 minutes ago, Shiva666 said:

so my current psu, the "corsair vs450W 80+ White" would be insufficient?
Also, Thanks for the PSUs tier link, it was informative 😀

Technically it's having around 135 W for remaining wattage 'space', so probably would be fine for that. But go higher would be better as the PSU load would be lower.

 

And as above said, it'd limit the upgrade path for the future upgrade, but if you don't plan to do it for some time, it's fine to stay on the 450W.

Humor me, as you should do.

 

Daily drivers:

 

Acer Aspire E5-475G

Intel Core i5-7200U 2.5 GHz (Turbo 3.1 GHz) || NVIDIA GeForce 940MX 2GB

4GB Micron DDR4 + 4GB Team Group DDR4 PC19200

120 GB WD Green M.2 SATA SSD + 480 GB Pioneer APS-SL3N SATA SSD

Windows 10 Single Language x64

 

Some old computer laying around as my HTPC

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 1.8GHz || (fake lol) NVIDIA GeForce GT730 2GB DDR3

Some random old motherboard. Works fine tho.

512 MB + 512 MB random DDR memory

40GB IDE HDD + 1 TB old laptop SATA HDD, got bad sector unfortunately

Linux Mint 20 Ulyana Xfce x64

Some old TCL CRT TV laying around + RCA to HDMI converter

 

Xiaomi Redmi Note 8

4GB RAM, 64GB Internal Storage 

64GB SanDisk Ultra (80MB/s Read) External Storage

MIUI 11 Global

Aukey Turbo Charger PA-U28 QC2.0 + Aukey CB-CD4 PVC Type-C Cable

 

Audio

Some random home-theater speakers I took freely from someplace and big-ass bass with old computer speaker amplifier. It sounds good af tho.

dbE DJ100 Headphone

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3 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

If they're still in stock, probably you'd want to go for Corsair CX550

if u mean this, Link then that is really expensive!!! 

Like, the psu i have currently (corsair vs450W 80+ white) was priced at around 3.5k INR when i bought it few months ago..the 650w psu that i have my eyes on costs 7.8k WITH the computer cabinet/case that i need (its a bundle offer) so there is simply no way i can afford a psu that costs me 20k INR 😅

 

6 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

Too low, yes, you'd *poof* that PSU. But too high, it's no problem at all except for the efficiency curve.

right, 👌

 

9 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

I did research for days before for the good PSU for kind of similar build, and stumbled on it for the good one, unfortunately have to get the CX550M (kind of more expensive and unfortunately more 'worse' than the non-modular one) one since CX550 are all out of stock lol

i see! hope the psu that ur looking for comes in stock asap...that is if u still need to buy it that is..

 

10 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

Another options would be on the tier list, which @mahyar linked above.

yeah right, to be honest, i am afraid my only two choices are :

A) i either keep my current psu as is to not go even more above on the amount of money i need to spend, because i have really done that more than enough lol but it would mean my current computer will not have a psu in it anymore, and i'd have to pack it up and store it away till i can buy a psu for it.

or

B) since the bundle offer for the 650w psu i listed before means i get it for a steal-price, and since i need a case/cabinet anyway, this choice would mean i need to pay a little bit of extra money to get the 650w psu which would enable to me give my current computer to my siblings, so that they can game on it 😆
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the only real reason i wanted to ask advice regarding this wasn't cuz i wanted to know which psu i wanna get but was cuz i wanted to know whether my current psu would be sufficient or not, cuz any money i can save at this point is really good...but if my current psu is insufficient, i can spend a little-bit extra to get the 650w psu in the bundle offer. 

So the 80+ certifications are not really that important at this point, but what is important, is the fact that 450w vs. 650w (both of them, even tho are white rated, still from corsair, so quality wise there is no downside in between them)

As @mahyar suggested before, a 500w bronze rated psu i guess i could  look for, but it wouldn't have be around the 3.5k price range, meaning all of them would be 80+ White...so in that case, there would be no point in upgrading just 50w (from 450w to 500w), so the only choices are that i either keep the 450w and save money or get 650w bundle, leading to a bit extra money being spent but giving me the option to keep my current computer in working condition.

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23 minutes ago, mahyar said:

it is on edge of working but i suggest you to change it will limit your upgrade path

actually that's the thing, i dont really plan to upgrade anything major after today for at least a year...and i think i can upgrade psu then if need be (if that is the only real issue here)

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1 minute ago, Shiva666 said:

if u mean this, Link then that is really expensive!!! 

Like, the psu i have currently (corsair vs450W 80+ white) was priced at around 3.5k INR when i bought it few months ago..the 650w psu that i have my eyes on costs 7.8k WITH the computer cabinet/case that i need (its a bundle offer) so there is simply no way i can afford a psu that costs me 20k INR 😅

 

right, 👌

 

i see! hope the psu that ur looking for comes in stock asap...that is if u still need to buy it that is..

 

yeah right, to be honest, i am afraid my only two choices are :

A) i either keep my current psu as is to not go even more above on the amount of money i need to spend, because i have really done that more than enough lol but it would mean my current computer will not have a psu in it anymore, and i'd have to pack it up and store it away till i can buy a psu for it.

or

B) since the bundle offer for the 650w psu i listed before means i get it for a steal-price, and since i need a case/cabinet anyway, this choice would mean i need to pay a little bit of extra money to get the 650w psu which would enable to me give my current computer to my siblings, so that they can game on it 😆
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the only real reason i wanted to ask advice regarding this wasn't cuz i wanted to know which psu i wanna get but was cuz i wanted to know whether my current psu would be sufficient or not, cuz any money i can save at this point is really good...but if my current psu is insufficient, i can spend a little-bit extra to get the 650w psu in the bundle offer. 

So the 80+ certifications are not really that important at this point, but what is important, is the fact that 450w vs. 650w (both of them, even tho are white rated, still from corsair, so quality wise there is no downside in between them)

As @mahyar suggested before, a 500w bronze rated psu i guess i could  look for, but it wouldn't have be around the 3.5k price range, meaning all of them would be 80+ White...so in that case, there would be no point in upgrading just 50w (from 450w to 500w), so the only choices are that i either keep the 450w and save money or get 650w bundle, leading to a bit extra money being spent but giving me the option to keep my current computer in working condition.

you can use your current psu and then save for upgrade it is a "ok" psu but if you found a good deal change it

if it was useful give it a like :) btw if your into linux pay a visit here  and i will be thankful if you send me an opinion here  

 

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25 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

Technically it's having around 135 W for remaining wattage 'space', so probably would be fine for that. But go higher would be better as the PSU load would be lower.

 

i see..

 

25 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

And as above said, it'd limit the upgrade path for the future upgrade, but if you don't plan to do it for some time, it's fine to stay on the 450W.

right, true...and 👌thanks for your input mate :) 

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3 minutes ago, Shiva666 said:

i see! hope the psu that ur looking for comes in stock asap...that is if u still need to buy it that is..

 

Heck, already bought the CX550M as it's kind of urgently needed anyway lol, and it's actually still a fine PSU (although kind of expensive but I hope it's worth it since the old one died just for 3 years) either.

 

6 minutes ago, Shiva666 said:

the only real reason i wanted to ask advice regarding this wasn't cuz i wanted to know which psu i wanna get but was cuz i wanted to know whether my current psu would be sufficient or not, cuz any money i can save at this point is really good...but if my current psu is insufficient, i can spend a little-bit extra to get the 650w psu in the bundle offer. 

I'd stay on the current one for the sake of the money tbh.

Humor me, as you should do.

 

Daily drivers:

 

Acer Aspire E5-475G

Intel Core i5-7200U 2.5 GHz (Turbo 3.1 GHz) || NVIDIA GeForce 940MX 2GB

4GB Micron DDR4 + 4GB Team Group DDR4 PC19200

120 GB WD Green M.2 SATA SSD + 480 GB Pioneer APS-SL3N SATA SSD

Windows 10 Single Language x64

 

Some old computer laying around as my HTPC

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 1.8GHz || (fake lol) NVIDIA GeForce GT730 2GB DDR3

Some random old motherboard. Works fine tho.

512 MB + 512 MB random DDR memory

40GB IDE HDD + 1 TB old laptop SATA HDD, got bad sector unfortunately

Linux Mint 20 Ulyana Xfce x64

Some old TCL CRT TV laying around + RCA to HDMI converter

 

Xiaomi Redmi Note 8

4GB RAM, 64GB Internal Storage 

64GB SanDisk Ultra (80MB/s Read) External Storage

MIUI 11 Global

Aukey Turbo Charger PA-U28 QC2.0 + Aukey CB-CD4 PVC Type-C Cable

 

Audio

Some random home-theater speakers I took freely from someplace and big-ass bass with old computer speaker amplifier. It sounds good af tho.

dbE DJ100 Headphone

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1 minute ago, mahyar said:

you can use your current psu and then save for upgrade it is a "ok" psu but if you found a good deal change it

i see, ok then..i shall think really hard on it. I am gonna make this purchase and pay my bank for it on monthly installments, hence the reason i am being so very extra careful on how much extra i spend on a already doubled budget than originally planned lol.

Because my siblings already have a even lower-end computer currently than my current rig, i just thought it would be nice if i could give them my current computer as for them it would be a decent upgrade. But considering the little bit of extra cost that comes with it, i'd have to ask myself whether my current computer needs to be in a working condition or not for the next 10+ months.

Anyway, thanks for your input mate :) am glad to know my current psu is sufficient ! 

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1 minute ago, dhannemon13 said:

Heck, already bought the CX550M as it's kind of urgently needed anyway lol, and it's actually still a fine PSU (although kind of expensive but I hope it's worth it since the old one died just for 3 years) either.

i see! 

 

2 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

I'd stay on the current one for the sake of the money tbh.

yeah, exactly my thoughts right now :D 
its not much, like monthly installments that i need to pay my bank back without the 650w corsair psu is gonna be 2.6k INR and WITH the 650w psu, it would be 2.8k INR..

issue is, that extra 200 that i save, on the long run would be nice cuz its a 24 month loan on which i need to make all of the parts purchase using credit card. So that is 4800 INR saved + some extra interest based rate. I know it would be nice if i could get the 650W now but oh well, it is what it is eh :) 

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i'll wait and see for replies from few more people (cuz i am simply interested to hear from various people) till the very last minute i actually buy the parts (which would be like in the next 2 days) after which i'll mark this post as solved

:) 

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