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Can I overclock a ryzen 3 3200g to 4ghz with stock cooler and will it make a difference?

As I said before on your last-one topic, you 'can' (not should) overclock it when it's needed. As long as it doesn't touch too high temps, it would be fine somehow, and you got a good airflow inside your case.

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The issue with the 3200g is it isn’t ryzen2, it’s ryzen+.  The number system implies it’s between a 3100 and a 3300 but it isn’t.  It’s a 2400 with a gpu.

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Try it and find out.

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2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

The issue with the 3200g is it isn’t ryzen2, it’s ryzen+ 

well zen+ cpus can also overclock pretty good

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3 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

The issue with the 3200g is it isn’t ryzen2, it’s ryzen+ 

Heck, still an overclockable AMD anyway lol

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1 minute ago, mahyar said:

well zen+ cpus can also overclock pretty good

Better than zen2, but they have issues with things like memory and other stuff.  A really good overclock on zen+ only gets one to nearly zen2 stock speeds.

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11 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

As I said before on your last-one topic, you 'can' (not should) overclock it when it's needed. As long as it doesn't touch too high temps, it would be fine somehow, and you got a good airflow inside your case.

I do NOT have good airflow 😂 I just have one intake fan 

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1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

Better than zen2, but they have issues with things like memory and other stuff.  A really good overclock on zen+ only gets one to nearly zen2 stock speeds.

well they are much better as people make them to be they aren't as bad as intel's 6th and 7th gen 

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2 minutes ago, Meandmycharacter said:

I do NOT have good airflow 😂 I just have one intake fan 

Wouldn't even to risk it, then. At least 1:1 intake-exhaust is the ideal one, afaik. The hot air can potentially accumulate inside the case if it don't have enough exhaust somehow.

Humor me, as you should do.

 

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Just now, dhannemon13 said:

Wouldn't even to risk it, then. At least 1:1 intake-exhaust is the ideal one, afaik. The hot air can potentially accumulate inside the case if it don't have enough exhaust somehow.

I don't have a exhaust fan but I do have a lot of holes in my case 😂 that works like exhaust 

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4 minutes ago, Meandmycharacter said:

I do NOT have good airflow 😂 I just have one intake fan 

$6 could fix that.  Sleeve bearing fans work fine as long as you keep them in the right orientation. 

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1 minute ago, Meandmycharacter said:

I don't have a exhaust fan but I do have a lot of holes in my case 😂 that works like exhaust 

Not enough pull for the hot air inside, somehow.

Humor me, as you should do.

 

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40GB IDE HDD + 1 TB old laptop SATA HDD, got bad sector unfortunately

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4 minutes ago, dhannemon13 said:

Not enough pull for the hot air inside, somehow.

A way to think about it is the difference between blowing through a tube and blowing into a bag with holes in it.  We’ve only seen one schleerin(sp?) photography piece out of gamersnexus but there’s a whole lot of cool things he can do with that mirror if he gets the time. 

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39 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Better than zen2, but they have issues with things like memory and other stuff.  A really good overclock on zen+ only gets one to nearly zen2 stock speeds.

As someone who run an overclocked Zen+ CPU as a daily driver i will share my experience:

Zen+ indeed has issues with memory,my 3466MHz CL16 kit is on the fence with the memory controller of my CPU.

It's very stable but if my PC shutdown unexpectedly my PC will refuse to boot and will disable XMP and then will boot fine.

Then i have to enable XMP again and it will boot normally,when you are on the fence it's a bit finicky.

If i would have gone with a 3600MHz kit my PC would have refused to boot with XMP enabled no matter what i do.

With 3466MHz i can at least boot with XMP (in some edge cases it's a bit problematic but nothing serious)

 

When it comes to CPU overclocking,4.1GHz is almost impossible without extreme cooling (unless you get a really good silicon)..

And not to mention that non X CPUs don't support XFR or any other form of PBO.

 

Disclaimer: 3466MHz may not work for you,It depends on the silicon quality of your CPU.

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I had that CPU and oc to 3.85, strangely it was easier to oc with the igpu on than with the igpu off.

 

I can't really say overclocking did much either way performance changed from 'weak' to 'still weak'... 

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2 hours ago, Vishera said:

And not to mention that non X CPUs don't support XFR or any other form of PBO.

 

 

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https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3491-explaining-precision-boost-overdrive-benchmarks-auto-oc

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:
2 hours ago, Vishera said:

And not to mention that non X CPUs don't support XFR or any other form of PBO.

 

 

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Also note that there are separate default PB limits for 105W and 65W TDP processors. When we installed a 3600 in our MSI Godlike, we got the 65W numbers; when we installed a 3900X, we got the 105W numbers. This means that the advantages PBO offers are subjective depending on the motherboard model, the processor model, the SPECIFIC processor, the cooling solution, the temperature of the room, and the alignment of the planets.

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3491-explaining-precision-boost-overdrive-benchmarks-auto-oc

 

 

 

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What i said doesn't apply to Zen 2.

 

Zen+

2600,2700 and other non X CPUs don't support XFR/PBO

2600X,2700X and other X CPUs support XFR/PBO

 

Zen 2

Everything supports PBO

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1 minute ago, Vishera said:

What i said doesn't apply to Zen 2.

 

Ah, ok, thanks for the clarification, guess I missed that part. 

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2 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Ah, ok, thanks for the clarification, guess I missed that part. 

Also XFR is an early version of PBO

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