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Trident z royals 3200mz 4x8 crashes my pc all the time

I just got my Trident z royals today and when i installed them they work fine, my motherboard is a asus strix b450-f. it can support speeds up to 3200 mhz.

I looked up online and then i realized that the ram arent QVL tested with my cpu which is a Ryzen 7 2700.

When i try to lock the mhz to 3200 the pc wont even boot up, it gives me an error, now if i try to lower it a bit like 3000, it can work for some time but if i try downloading something on steam it crashes the pc immediately.

I also updated my bios, and it still doesnt work. 

When i try to set the ram to Auto under bios its speeds lock at 2133 mhz which is extremely bad. 

 

The CL is 16-19-19-39

 

Any tips?

or should i try sending them back?

 

 

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Have you tried using the XMP profiles in the bios or have you been overclocking the memory manually?

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yes i did try using the xmp profile which sets it to 3200, CL 16-19-19-39 and 1.35v voltage. It crashes it right away, even when i lower the mhz to like 3000mhz it crashes the system when i try doing something.

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13 minutes ago, LogicAngel said:

I just got my Trident z royals today and when i installed them they work fine, my motherboard is a asus strix b450-f. it can support speeds up to 3200 mhz.

I looked up online and then i realized that the ram arent QVL tested with my cpu which is a Ryzen 7 2700.

When i try to lock the mhz to 3200 the pc wont even boot up, it gives me an error, now if i try to lower it a bit like 3000, it can work for some time but if i try downloading something on steam it crashes the pc immediately.

I also updated my bios, and it still doesnt work. 

When i try to set the ram to Auto under bios its speeds lock at 2133 mhz which is extremely bad. 

 

The CL is 16-19-19-39

 

Any tips?

or should i try sending them back?

 

 

 

Ryzen 2000-series can't handle high frequency RAM very well....and even worse with Ryzen 1000-series.

Also, 2 DIMMs vs 4 DIMMs puts more stress / load on the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC).

 

Try this:

  1. Enable XMP (so the timings + voltage is automatically set for you)
  2. Manually drop the RAM multiplier to DDR4-3000 or DDR4-2933
  3. Save and Exist the BIOS

 

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Are you trying to combine memory kits?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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Okay so ive lowered it to 3000mhz and so far nothing has happened i have tried downloading a game on steam and it works fine right now and  i have google open. Last time i tried downloading on close to 3200mhz it just crashed right away. 

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Are you trying to combine memory kits?

No, i got a kit of 4 sticks Trident z royals 3200mhz

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oh right its 3600mhz sticks its cus my current motherboard doesnt support 3600mhz i just forgot xd

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1 minute ago, LogicAngel said:

my current motherboard doesnt support 3600mhz

technically it's the Zen+ CPUs used in testing of these boards that cannot do 3600MHz. With Zen 2 CPUs most B450 boards can reach 3600MHz.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

technically it's the Zen+ CPUs used in testing of these boards that cannot do 3600MHz. With Zen 2 CPUs most B450 boards can reach 3600MHz.

I have the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F GAMING, Socket-AM4 which supports 3200mhz

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1 minute ago, LogicAngel said:

I have the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F GAMING, Socket-AM4 which supports 3200mhz

I know, I'm saying the limit is on the CPU and not the board itself. You should see higher frequency options in the BIOS.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

I know, I'm saying the limit is on the CPU and not the board itself. You should see higher frequency options in the BIOS.

 Ah i understand, my bad. 

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What would be stable speeds the, cus 3000mhz it seems stable as for now. it hasnt crashed the system yet. 

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I just tried launching modern warfare and it still seems stable so far with everything i normally use running in the background aswell

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13 minutes ago, LogicAngel said:

What would be stable speeds the, cus 3000mhz it seems stable as for now. it hasnt crashed the system yet. 

That you have to test, seems like 3000 is your setup's stable point. Unless you're willing to touch the timings, lowering frequency bit by bit is the only way to improve stability

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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13 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

That you have to test, seems like 3000 is your setup's stable point. Unless you're willing to touch the timings, lowering frequency bit by bit is the only way to improve stability

I have found online that the cpu ryzen 7 2700 supports max 3000mhz image.png.d90844747e172899e922c4a3ae1b3d94.png

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Ah, up to 3200, i guess im gonna test that, but it doesnt make sense since my board supports 3200 and the cpu should be fine with it aswell but hey im not that good at understanding these such things so im sure there is a reason for it. 

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11 minutes ago, LogicAngel said:

Ah, up to 3200, i guess im gonna test that, but it doesnt make sense since my board supports 3200 and the cpu should be fine with it aswell but hey im not that good at understanding these such things so im sure there is a reason for it. 

AMD only promised I think 2666MHz for 4 dual rank (double sided) sticks (assume 64GB with 16GB sticks since 32GB sticks werent a thing for non REG DDR4) and 2933 for 2 single rank sticks, going further is considered an overclock and overclocks are never guaranteed.

 

12 minutes ago, LogicAngel said:

But its the 3rd gen, i did update my bios but does that increase my memory limit on the board? 

there's nothing you can really do to fix a hardware issue like the CPU's memory controller.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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