Jump to content

Is 16gb good enough for gaming in the next 5 years or so?

Just wanted to know if I want to add more ram before ram gets expensive.

Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Time to bust out the crystal ball again...

 

We're in a weird place with ram where a couple games can use a ton of ram, and we're also on the cusp of a DDR5 release. There's gonna be a ton of used memory in the future so don't stress about buying ram right this second.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, IAEInferno said:

Just wanted to know if I want to add more ram before ram gets expensive.

It's cheap now, I would buy more.

 

Tho if you can tell me the month and year that RAM will get expensive, I will have a talk with my own crystal ball about how it's failing me.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

It's cheap now, I would buy more.

 

Tho if you can tell me the month and year that RAM will get expensive, I will have a talk with my own crystal ball about how it's failing me.

 

5 minutes ago, IAEInferno said:

Just wanted to know if I want to add more ram before ram gets expensive.

Buy enough, it will become lots cheaper once DDR5 gets mainstream. (at least according to my crystal ball 😛).

If you have 4 slots get 2x8GB then later you can upgrade by putting 4x8GB total in.

 

 

ps my crystal ball is still 8 bit. :D

When i ask for more specs, don't expect me to know the answer!
I'm just helping YOU to help YOURSELF!
(The more info you give the easier it is for others to help you out!)

Not willing to capitulate to the ignorance of the masses!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Heh... This seems relevant: 

68a75x1v2ez21.jpg

Fine you want the PSU tier list? Have the PSU tier list: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-103/

 

Stille (Desktop)

Ryzen 9 3900XT@4.5Ghz - Cryorig H7 Ultimate - 16GB Vengeance LPX 3000Mhz- MSI RTX 3080 Ti Ventus 3x OC - SanDisk Plus 480GB - Crucial MX500 500GB - Intel 660P 1TB SSD - (2x) WD Red 2TB - EVGA G3 650w - Corsair 760T

Evoo Gaming 15"
i7-9750H - 16GB DDR4 - GTX 1660Ti - 480GB SSD M.2 - 1TB 2.5" BX500 SSD 

VM + NAS Server (ProxMox 6.3)

1x Xeon E5-2690 v2  - 92GB ECC DDR3 - Quadro 4000 - Dell H310 HBA (Flashed with IT firmware) -500GB Crucial MX500 (Proxmox Host) Kingston 128GB SSD (FreeNAS dev/ID passthrough) - 8x4TB Toshiba N300 HDD

Toys: Ender 3 Pro, Oculus Rift CV1, Oculus Quest 2, about half a dozen raspberry Pis (2b to 4), Arduino Uno, Arduino Mega, Arduino nano (x3), Arduino nano pro, Atomic Pi. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, IAEInferno said:

Just wanted to know if I want to add more ram before ram gets expensive.

I don't know about the next 5 years, but if you mainly use it for gaming, web surfing or general office tasks, I'd say you're in pretty good shape with 16gb for at least the next year or so.

 

If I'm not mistaken, DDR5 will be coming out very soon, so DDR4 prices should drop. If you can afford it and plan on keeping your PC for awhile, then go for 32gb and you are set for quite awhile.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Honestly, what games do you play and what's your current RAM usage now?

 

I do not bother to close applications when I play, and I routinely play another game while raiding WOW, so extra RAM is nice.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Eh, 8gb is being saturated by games now, and 16gb can be filled on heaver games (think ms flight sim 2020). next 5, it might be saturated by most. Im not 100% sure on this, but if you can do 32 gb, and you dont want to upgrade in the next 2 years to desktop ddr5, I would go for 32gb of ddr4.

I could use some help with this!

please, pm me if you would like to contribute to my gpu bios database (includes overclocking bios, stock bios, and upgrades to gpus via modding)

Bios database

My beautiful, but not that powerful, main PC:

prior build:

Spoiler

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Everyone chastises me for having 32gb, at first it was a flex, now it's unironic proofing.

17 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

I routinely play another game while raiding WOW, so extra RAM is nice.

Yesss haha

春の八王子、君はもういない。独り八王子、君はいないから。春の八王子、君はもういない。独り八王子、君はいないから。

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

58 minutes ago, IAEInferno said:

Just wanted to know if I want to add more ram before ram gets expensive.

People were asking this question 8 years ago, when half the people on this forum said 16 GB Is overkill and get 8 GB, while the smart people got 16 GB of DDR3 and enjoyed never dealing with running out of RAM.

 

There are far too many people everywhere who want to live on the bare edge of the cliff and getting barely enough PSU they need for their system, barely enough RAM, and the only thing they care about is lots of storage.  Then they wonder why their PSU's shut off when they put in their RTX 3090's's, and they run around asking if they can put an 8 pin into 2x8pin split into a RTX 3080 because their PSU is too old.  Yikes.

 

Get the 32 GB of RAM.  Get it while the getting's good.  DDR4 has never been this cheap and you can get some really good deals (like 32 GB of 3200 for $90), provided you aren't trying to find kits that will overclock to 4400 mhz.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Eh, 8gb is being saturated by games now, and 16gb can be filled on heaver games (think ms flight sim 2020). next 5, it might be saturated by most. Im not 100% sure on this, but if you can do 32 gb, and you dont want to upgrade in the next 2 years to desktop ddr5, I would go for 32gb of ddr4.

The usage goes high even for games like Squad. The game alone uses 8gbs on average, with total usage being 14-16 gbs on average. I can't imagine it not using virtual memory at 16 gbs, especially with only 8gbs. I'm glad I have 32 gbs of ram. 

System Specs

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte AMD X570 Auros Master
  • RAM
    G.Skill Ripjaws 32 GBs
  • GPU
    Red Devil RX 5700XT
  • Case
    Corsair 570X
  • Storage
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 2TB - HDD Seagate B arracuda 1TB - External Seagate HDD 8TB
  • PSU
    G.Skill RipJaws 1250 Watts
  • Keyboard
    Corsair Gaming Keyboard K55
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Trinity
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, MewMew said:

Everyone chastises me for having 32gb, at first it was a flex, now it's unironic proofing.

Yesss haha

 

I just didn't want to leave some of the DIMM slots empty  ._.

 

On topic, 16GB should be enough for a couple more years.

5 years? That's projecting a little too far to say.

 

Just like in 2010 ~ 2013 when 8GB DDR3 "was plenty" ... yet 2018 ~ 2020 comes around.

Intel Z390 Rig ( *NEW* Primary )

Intel X99 Rig (Officially Decommissioned, Dead CPU returned to Intel)

  • i7-8086K @ 5.1 GHz
  • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master
  • Sapphire NITRO+ RX 6800 XT S.E + EKwb Quantum Vector Full Cover Waterblock
  • 32GB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4-3000 CL14 @ DDR-3400 custom CL15 timings
  • SanDisk 480 GB SSD + 1TB Samsung 860 EVO +  500GB Samsung 980 + 1TB WD SN750
  • EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod Cables
  • Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL
  • Ekwb Custom loop + 2x EKwb Quantum Surface P360M Radiators
  • Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Corsair K70 (Red LED, anodized black, Cheery MX Browns)

AMD Ryzen Rig

  • AMD R7-5800X
  • Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC
  • 32GB (16GB X 2) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600
  • Gigabyte Vision RTX 3060 Ti OC
  • EKwb D-RGB 360mm AIO
  • Intel 660p NVMe 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB + WD Black 1TB HDD
  • EVGA P2 850W + White CableMod cables
  • Lian-Li LanCool II Mesh - White

Intel Z97 Rig (Decomissioned)

  • Intel i5-4690K 4.8 GHz
  • ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero Z97
  • Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7950 EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition ACX 3.0
  • 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz
  • Corsair A50 air cooler  NZXT X61
  • Crucial MX500 1TB SSD + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version]
  • Antec New TruePower 550W EVGA G2 650W + White CableMod cables
  • Cooler Master HAF 912 White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips

AMD 990FX Rig (Decommissioned)

  • FX-8350 @ 4.8 / 4.9 GHz (given up on the 5.0 / 5.1 GHz attempt)
  • ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX
  • 12 GB (4 GB X 3) G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 @ 1866 MHz
  • Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 + Sapphire Dual-X HD 7970 in Crossfire  Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire *NONE*
  • Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull
  • Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD
  • Corsair TX850 (ver.1)
  • Cooler Master HAF 932

 

<> Electrical Engineer , B.Eng <>

<> Electronics & Computer Engineering Technologist (Diploma + Advanced Diploma) <>

<> Electronics Engineering Technician for the Canadian Department of National Defence <>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

5 years? That's projecting a little too far to say.

 

Thank you for saying the thing i was afraid to say.

春の八王子、君はもういない。独り八王子、君はいないから。春の八王子、君はもういない。独り八王子、君はいないから。

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Yep. Hardware RAM is only needed for the system really. V-RAM using M.2 is actually better.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

40 minutes ago, Kurnn said:

Yep. Hardware RAM is only needed for the system really. V-RAM using M.2 is actually better.

WTF?

When i ask for more specs, don't expect me to know the answer!
I'm just helping YOU to help YOURSELF!
(The more info you give the easier it is for others to help you out!)

Not willing to capitulate to the ignorance of the masses!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Well playing my one game now on 1080p not completely maxed out used 11. So in 5 years and many options for games out there I doubt 16 would be preferred. But it will be “enough”, that goes without saying.

Main RIg Corsair Air 540, I7 9900k, ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero, G.Skill Ripjaws 3600 32GB, 3090FE, EVGA 1000G5, Acer Nitro XZ3 2560 x 1440@240hz 

 

Spare RIg Lian Li O11 AIR MINI, I7 4790K, Asus Maximus VI Extreme, G.Skill Ares 2400 32Gb, EVGA 1080ti, 1080sc 1070sc & 1060 SSC, EVGA 850GA, Acer KG251Q 1920x1080@240hz

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

On 10/27/2020 at 12:11 AM, Dedayog said:

Honestly, what games do you play and what's your current RAM usage now?

 

I do not bother to close applications when I play, and I routinely play another game while raiding WOW, so extra RAM is nice.

I am an aspiring streamer/youtuber. Content is scuffed tough KEK. I use OBS when I record or stream and I somehow experience micro stutters all the time when I play. I check the cpu usage and GPU usage and cpu usage doesn't go up to 90% and gpu usage goes up to 98% at most. I don't know what's causing the micro stutters. 

 

I'm using a ryzen 5 2600 at stock with 3000mhz 2x8gb cl16 ram XMP and an RTX 2070 Super on a 32"3440x1440p monitor 100hz. Fps is around 60-80 at ultra settings on battlefield V.

Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

On 10/26/2020 at 12:09 PM, Falkentyne said:

People were asking this question 8 years ago, when half the people on this forum said 16 GB Is overkill and get 8 GB, while the smart people got 16 GB of DDR3 and enjoyed never dealing with running out of RAM.

 

There are far too many people everywhere who want to live on the bare edge of the cliff and getting barely enough PSU they need for their system, barely enough RAM, and the only thing they care about is lots of storage.  Then they wonder why their PSU's shut off when they put in their RTX 3090's's, and they run around asking if they can put an 8 pin into 2x8pin split into a RTX 3080 because their PSU is too old.  Yikes.

 

Get the 32 GB of RAM.  Get it while the getting's good.  DDR4 has never been this cheap and you can get some really good deals (like 32 GB of 3200 for $90), provided you aren't trying to find kits that will overclock to 4400 mhz.

Actually back in 2012 Geeks were telling people who DIY Computers to get 16GB because it gotten cheap... Then in 2013, a year later RAM went up and HDDs become scarce due to some flood in Thailand...

 

Getting 32GB for a new build seems high to me. Unless doing Content Creation or Video Editing.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Rams cheap. If you're building now and aren't on a tight budget, just get 32 and forget about it.

 

Bonus points: get 4x8 RGB and populate all your DIMMs for those sweet, sweet aesthetics, and never worry about it again.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

My System: i7-13700KF // Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix // MSI MPG Z690 Edge Wifi // 32GB DDR5 G. SKILL RIPJAWS S5 6000 CL32 // Nvidia RTX 4070 Super FE // Corsair 5000D Airflow // Corsair SP120 RGB Pro x7 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w //1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Teamgroup MP33/2TB Seagate 7200RPM Hard Drive // Displays: LG Ultragear 32GP83B x2 // Royal Kludge RK100 // Logitech G Pro X Superlight // Sennheiser DROP PC38x

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×