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Hello, Ive been thinking of raid 0ing my ssds for about a year, As its only a boot ssd, redundancy isnt necessary, I plan to install windows 10 pro, any advice of how to go forth 

 

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Difficult with no info. 

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As you're booting from it, you'll have to do it either through your motherboard's onboard RAID controller or buy a dedicated RAID card. 

 

Why do you want to RAID 0 your boot drive? 

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Just now, Kilrah said:

Difficult with no info. 

what infomation do you need, my board is a rog b450f and the ssds are 2x240gb a400s.

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1 minute ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

As you're booting from it, you'll have to do it either through your motherboard's onboard RAID controller or buy a dedicated RAID card. 

 

Why do you want to RAID 0 your boot drive? 

speed and to put all my games and applications in one convenient spot

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found this on the boards spec page: Support Raid 0, 1, 10

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4 minutes ago, Not Wills said:

speed and to put all my games and applications in one convenient spot

Currently no games benefit from fast ssds. Basically a generic budget decent sata drive vs the fastest nvme drive on the market results in no difference. Raid 0 also causes certain performance hits where performance is just worse mostly in random read and writes. Also it's pretty easy for it to get messed up at random leading to dataloss. So basically don't.

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Just now, Not Wills said:

speed and to put all my games and applications in one convenient spot

Speed for what? You'll see no benefit for everyday OS use or loading games or applications as all of these are primarily random read/write operations and RAID 0, on SSDs at least, primarily improves sequential read/write performance and doesn't help much in terms of random performance. You'll basically just be increasing the chances of data loss for no real benefit. It's not something I'd recommend. 

 

That said, I doubt you want to buy a dedicated RAID card for this, so you'd need to use your motherboard's built in RAID controller in the B450 chipset. Your board supports RAID 0, 1 and 10. Asus has a RAID configuration guide which will tell you how to set it up: https://dlsvr04.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_X470-PRO/E14091_RAID_Configuration_Guide_EM_V2_WEB.pdf

 

Onboard RAID has more problems outside of what RAID 0 already presents. If you ever need to switch motherboard, your RAID will need to be rebuilt, which means erasing all data that's on it (you can technically transfer the RAID array but it rarely works from board to board), if the controller dies, your data is gone. 

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You may find that your boot times are slower because the POST has to initialise the raid controller before it boots.

 

 

I'm an IT System Admin with 15+ years worth of XP, plus I've been tinkering computers since I was old enough to hold a screwdriver, so I usually know what I'm talking about.

 

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2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Currently no games benefit from fast ssds. Basically a generic budget decent sata drive vs the fastest nvme drive on the market results in no difference. Raid 0 also causes certain performance hits where performance is just worse mostly in random read and writes. Also it's pretty easy for it to get messed up at random leading to dataloss. So basically don't.

raid is cool, plus i throw large files around.

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1 minute ago, ObsidianAura said:

You may find that your boot times are slower because the POST has to initialise the raid controller before it boots.

 

 

I already have a delay because my board has to start up the intel gigabit lan controller.

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1 minute ago, Not Wills said:

raid is cool, plus i throw large files around.

Then go for it. You literally just said it was for games and programs which is the opposite of large files. If this is for video editing and whatnot then sure. But you have 2 low end ssds you'd be so far better off getting 1 good drive.

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3 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

Speed for what? You'll see no benefit for everyday OS use or loading games or applications as all of these are primarily random read/write operations and RAID 0, on SSDs at least, primarily improves sequential read/write performance and doesn't help much in terms of random performance. You'll basically just be increasing the chances of data loss for no real benefit. It's not something I'd recommend. 

 

That said, I doubt you want to buy a dedicated RAID card for this, so you'd need to use your motherboard's built in RAID controller in the B450 chipset. Your board supports RAID 0, 1 and 10. Asus has a RAID configuration guide which will tell you how to set it up: https://dlsvr04.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_X470-PRO/E14091_RAID_Configuration_Guide_EM_V2_WEB.pdf

 

Onboard RAID has more problems outside of what RAID 0 already presents. If you ever need to switch motherboard, your RAID will need to be rebuilt, which means erasing all data that's on it (you can technically transfer the RAID array but it rarely works from board to board), if the controller dies, your data is gone. 

ok, the instructions seam very detailed, what are the chances that i will screw something up really bad.

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Just now, jaslion said:

Then go for it. You literally just said it was for games and programs which is the opposite of large files. If this is for video editing and whatnot then sure. But you have 2 low end ssds you'd be so far better off getting 1 good drive.

Well epic games has a fit when you plug in more drives, I do do some video editing but I use my pc as a skip for files.

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Just now, Not Wills said:

ok, the instructions seam very detailed, what are the chances that i will screw something up really bad.

The worst that can happen is you end up with corrupt data on your drives, which you don't seem to be worried about. 

I'm an IT System Admin with 15+ years worth of XP, plus I've been tinkering computers since I was old enough to hold a screwdriver, so I usually know what I'm talking about.

 

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Just now, ObsidianAura said:

The worst that can happen is you end up with corrupt data on your drives, which you don't seem to be worried about. 

no, if a drive dies ill just reinstall windows.

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1 minute ago, ObsidianAura said:

The worst that can happen is you end up with corrupt data on your drives, which you don't seem to be worried about. 

unless itll screw up my hdds that i use to back up stuff.

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6 minutes ago, Not Wills said:

ok, the instructions seam very detailed, what are the chances that i will screw something up really bad.

I'd recommend unplugging any other drives you have so you don't accidently include them in the array and wipe them. 

 

You can't really break anything other than lose data or corrupt data, but as you're putting them into RAID, you're going to have to wipe them anyway. If you only have the drives you want connected, you can't really mess it up. 

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1 minute ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

I'd recommend unplugging any other drives you have so you don't accidently include them in the array and wipe them. 

 

You can't really break anything other than lose data or corrupt data, but as you're putting them into RAID, you're going to have to wipe them anyway. If you only have the drives you want connected, you can't really mess it up. 

ok cool, ill put the latest install of windows on a usb stick and get to it.

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1 minute ago, Not Wills said:

unless itll screw up my hdds that i use to back up stuff.

You wont, basically you add specific drives the array when you do it, after they're put in the array you create a volume. I haven't used raid on a simple pc in about 10 years and back then you often had a pain getting windows to see the raid array and needed to use a floppy disk to preload the drivers. You'll be fine with windows 10 though.

 

The only chance you have of messing up your other drives is if you somehow accidentally add them to the raid array when you first build it. If you're that worried just unplug the data cables so that cant happen. Only other issue I can anticipate going wrong for you is if you have bitlocker turned on and you don't have the info ready for the new system. 

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1 minute ago, ObsidianAura said:

You wont, basically you add specific drives the array when you do it, after they're put in the array you create a volume. I haven't used raid on a simple pc in about 10 years and back then you often had a pain getting windows to see the raid array and needed to use a floppy disk to preload the drivers. You'll be fine with windows 10 though.

 

The only chance you have of messing up your other drives is if you somehow accidentally add them to the raid array when you first build it. If you're that worried just unplug the data cables so that cant happen. Only other issue I can anticipate going wrong for you is if you have bitlocker turned on and you don't have the info ready for the new system. 

yea il unplug them

 

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1 hour ago, Not Wills said:

speed and to put all my games and applications in one convenient spot

I'd leave your boot drive alone, and maybe RAID 0 your game library drive.  I have and it does provide a decent bump in load times for heavily modded games like Ark, Minecraft, Conan, etc.

 

Boot drive... wouldn't mess with it at all.

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4 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

I'd leave your boot drive alone, and maybe RAID 0 your game library drive.  I have and it does provide a decent bump in load times for heavily modded games like Ark, Minecraft, Conan, etc.

 

Boot drive... wouldn't mess with it at all.

I will kindly ignore your advice as I use one of the sdds as my game library.

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1 minute ago, Not Wills said:

I will kindly ignore your advice as I use one of the sdds as my game library.

Well then if you're just asking for advice on how to actually perform the RAID 0, see your motherboard manual for setting it up.

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