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16 minutes ago, Tommwith2ms said:

Oh okay that makes sense, I was assuming you were talking about 1080p at 100 render scale

this is 1080p at 100% render scale. Just without AA.

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On 10/26/2020 at 4:05 AM, CheeseGod said:

Before I say anything here is my build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9zCgTC

 

I swapped out my 1080ti ftw3 for the 3080 xc3 ultra. There was barely any improvements in any of my games, some have suffered performan issues. I used to get about 160fps on average in mw 2019 with my 1080, now I'm only getting 170fps on average. I even tried minecraft and my pc was struggling until I turned the render distance down and made the game look like Cartoon. The temps for both my gpu & cpu are very low, under 65c. I'm not sure if its because my cpu isn't good enough or if its because I'm playing at 1080p, I don't understand how upgrading to a higher res will improve my fps but some people have told me that, others tell me that isn't the case. I included a screenshot of gpu z while I was playing. One other thing is I have my card in my x8 slot, would moving it to the x16 slot improveme my performance at all and if so by how much? 

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Nothing out of the ordinary here. You aren't being bottlenecked or anything. It's just the usual here. One core is running at 100% probably and thus it cannot feed the gpu data any faster. This then means that there simply cannot be more fps pushed. Since it's modern warfare this is pretty common. Upgrading the cpu is pointless as your 8700k is still one of the best in single core performance and the game doesn't scale past 8threads.

 

Basically what you are seeing is normal. Most game developers basically aim to get the game running at 60fps as easy as possible and thats it. Anything more that you get is on you. This is why I always just recommend you stick with at most a 120-144hz monitor as you can push most games to those fps but will struggle to reach 240fps in a huge amount (not counting esports titles those are made with the intention of crazy high fps being an option).

 

Also the 3080 is a card aimed at 1440p and up. It simply is way too strong for 1080p. It doesn't even have to break much of a sweat to game at that resolution. Your 1080ti was in the same boat too. Still overkill for 1080p.

 

So what it all comes down to is games in general not being optimized to run at crazy high fps no matter the system you have. So do yourself a favor and if you get a monitor skip all the marketing bs and whatnot and just get yourself a good 1440p 144hz display. Unless you are a pro gamer you really will not notice a difference between 144hz and 240 or 360hz. That and most games can never even get to those fps no matter how low you get the settings or how powerful your single core performance is.

 

Also to anyone saying you need to upgrade your cpu. Don't bother your current one is still very very good for gaming.

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1080p is the problem here. between 1080 ti and 3080 there is barely any difference at 1080p. at 4k 3080 is much better than 1080ti. at 1440p 3080 is better than 1080ti but not as much as at 4k

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On 10/27/2020 at 5:36 AM, jaslion said:

Nothing out of the ordinary here. You aren't being bottlenecked or anything. It's just the usual here. One core is running at 100% probably and thus it cannot feed the gpu data any faster. This then means that there simply cannot be more fps pushed. Since it's modern warfare this is pretty common. Upgrading the cpu is pointless as your 8700k is still one of the best in single core performance and the game doesn't scale past 8threads.

 

Basically what you are seeing is normal. Most game developers basically aim to get the game running at 60fps as easy as possible and thats it. Anything more that you get is on you. This is why I always just recommend you stick with at most a 120-144hz monitor as you can push most games to those fps but will struggle to reach 240fps in a huge amount (not counting esports titles those are made with the intention of crazy high fps being an option).

 

Also the 3080 is a card aimed at 1440p and up. It simply is way too strong for 1080p. It doesn't even have to break much of a sweat to game at that resolution. Your 1080ti was in the same boat too. Still overkill for 1080p.

 

So what it all comes down to is games in general not being optimized to run at crazy high fps no matter the system you have. So do yourself a favor and if you get a monitor skip all the marketing bs and whatnot and just get yourself a good 1440p 144hz display. Unless you are a pro gamer you really will not notice a difference between 144hz and 240 or 360hz. That and most games can never even get to those fps no matter how low you get the settings or how powerful your single core performance is.

 

Also to anyone saying you need to upgrade your cpu. Don't bother your current one is still very very good for gaming.

I'm just curious though, why is my performance worse than the 1080ti? Also I know a guy that gets 250fps easily at 1080p with a 3080 + i9 10900k, you say its not much of an upgrade yet I'm still stuck at 120fps in war zone. Sometimes it dips to 90. 

Here's a video https://youtu.be/CbYijfysNA0

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On 10/26/2020 at 8:43 PM, Tommwith2ms said:

How are you hitting 300? I can run 1080p low settings on a 10850 (@5.2) and a 2080ti (+120 clock +300mem) 32gb ram @3600 and still not cracking 200. Ran terrible on my last build also

Let me know if you ever figure this out

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1 hour ago, CheeseGod said:

Let me know if you ever figure this out

You never stated if you ever moved your card to the x16 slot. If not, give that a try and let us know if you see any difference.

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