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Google sued by the Department of Justice over Antitrust laws

Summary

 The US Department of Justice is suing Google over monopolizing it’s power with internet searches. This is part of an investigation that has been going on for some time. If this suit follows through and wins, this can hurt Google’s advertising business.

 

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In its complaint, the Justice Department is expected to make sweeping allegations that Google (GOOG) has stifled competition to maintain its powerful position in the marketplace for online search, according to two people familiar with the matter. 

The Justice Department's expected suit against Google marks the most consequential step the US government has taken to hold Silicon Valley to account after Washington took a dramatic turn against the tech industry following evidence that major social media platforms were manipulated by foreign election meddling efforts in 2016. Since then, the top executives of major tech platforms have been repeatedly hauled before Congress to face questions about their responsibilities toward political speech; hateful content and misinformation; small businesses and local journalism; and competition. 
 
The looming case could pose an unprecedented risk to Google's wider advertising business, which brought in $134.8 billion in revenue last year, accounting for 84% of Google's total business.

 

 

My thoughts

 This is a very bold step of the US government to do on Google. As we heard a few days ago, this may break up Google by them having to sell parts of their business, i.e. Google Chrome, YouTube. I don’t know if this is going to be better or worse but we will have to see what goes down in this lawsuit.

 

Sources

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/tech/doj-google-antitrust-case/index.html

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/department-justice-announce-antitrust-lawsuit-google-search-engine/story?id=73713201&cid=clicksource_4380645_4_heads_hero_live_twopack_hed

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Here I will sum up everything -

nothing will happen to Google and they will make even more money in more unethical ways

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I mean their search engine is what Google really is in the essence. 

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I really hope this works.  And that they do it to other companies, too.  Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft (again), I like Apple but them too, etc.

 

YouTube is a tough one.  They have a near-monopoly of user-created video media, but breaking them up may have more negatives than positives.  Hard to say.  Prying them from Google would at least get them out of Google's toxic work culture, though, and force them to do their own thing.

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Advertisers went too far,I don't care even if they go bankrupt.

The advertisement industry is mostly evil,quick to bite into the privacy of innocent civilians and capitalize on it.

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33 minutes ago, The_Tuba_Titan said:

This is a very bold step of the US government to do on Google. As we heard a few days ago, this may break up Google by them having to sell parts of their business, i.e. Google Chrome, YouTube. I don’t know if this is going to be better or worse but we will have to see what goes down in this lawsuit.

I wouldn't count on the DOJ breaking Google up. People were convinced Microsoft would be split, too. You might see some significant regulation, but I wouldn't count on Android/Chrome/YouTube spin-offs. 

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52 minutes ago, The_Tuba_Titan said:

This is a very bold step of the US government to do on Google.

It may be bold but also necessary, google is way too powerful, probably more so than the us 'government', and obviously they're up to no good.

 

 

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1 hour ago, BuckGup said:

Here I will sum up everything -

nothing will happen to Google and they will make even more money in more unethical ways

I'm afraid that's true. This story is just a lame ass cover-up to make us think the Department of "Justice" actually care about us.

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22 minutes ago, Commodus said:

I wouldn't count on the DOJ breaking Google up. People were convinced Microsoft would be split, too. You might see some significant regulation, but I wouldn't count on Android/Chrome/YouTube spin-offs. 

The DOJ doesn't break companies up. They file the lawsuits and bring up the case to do so, but usually it's a judge that orders the break up. I also believe that Congress has the power to break companies up.

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1 minute ago, Random_Person1234 said:

The DOJ doesn't break companies up. They file the lawsuits and bring up the case to do so, but usually it's a judge that orders the break up. I also believe that Congress has the power to break companies up.

True, thanks for pointing that out. I should say that I don't expect this to lead to a judge breaking Google up. Now, Congress might, although Congress and its power could change quite a bit in the next few months...

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1 minute ago, Commodus said:

True, thanks for pointing that out. I should say that I don't expect this to lead to a judge breaking Google up. Now, Congress might, although Congress and its power could change quite a bit in the next few months...

This might be getting too political, but a sub-committee of Congress recently released a report calling tech companies monopolies and compared them to oil barons and railroad tycoons. That report was from the Democrat controlled House and was mainly supported by Democrats, so if they gain a majority in government in the coming months, there might be a chance Congress breaks up the tech companies.

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Which part of the “US justice department”?  The administration has been using its legal clout as a threat a lot lately.  This could be actual legal enforcement or it could be a play for favorable treatment.

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1 minute ago, Random_Person1234 said:

 there might be a chance Congress breaks up the tech companies.

The issue is Google can just throw 20 million at some senators and congress members and get what they want. Or like the Facebook trials have absolutely no idea how technology works

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2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Which part of the “US justice department”?  The administration has been using its legal clout as a threat a lot lately.  This could be actual legal enforcement or it could be a play for favorable treatment.

According to reports the Attorney General closely followed this case, and they wanted to get this case out before the election.

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8 minutes ago, Random_Person1234 said:

This might be getting too political, but a sub-committee of Congress recently released a report calling tech companies monopolies and compared them to oil barons and railroad tycoons. That report was from the Democrat controlled House and was mainly supported by Democrats, so if they gain a majority in government in the coming months, there might be a chance Congress breaks up the tech companies.

That's what I was thinking. It's not really political at all to state which way a new administration and Senate might turn — just a reflection of reality based on publicly stated goals.

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25 minutes ago, Random_Person1234 said:

The DOJ doesn't break companies up. They file the lawsuits and bring up the case to do so, but usually it's a judge that orders the break up. I also believe that Congress has the power to break companies up.

In the end, breaking up companies is a tool, and it may or may not be the best tool for this job. But there certainly is a job to be done here, so it's good to see some attention brought to it.

 

15 minutes ago, Random_Person1234 said:

This might be getting too political, but a sub-committee of Congress recently released a report calling tech companies monopolies and compared them to oil barons and railroad tycoons. 

I didn't know that, but I was about to make that analogy myself :D It seems we repeat the same mistakes with every new sector that pops up in the economy.

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Google do have a pretty clear monopoly on the search and browser market

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My Desktop: Don’t have one 

My Phone: An Honor 8s (although I don’t recommend it)

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My Console: A Regular PS4

My Tablet: A Huawei Mediapad m5 

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Carrot and Stick. Nothing will happen with Google. This is just a way of Washington DC to blackmail their lobbyists into payout out more to stave off any such punishment.

 

Great headlines. Nice hope. But in the end, the results will be an empty smelly fart.

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can you make a case that google is breaking antitrust laws by buying small companies and then shutting them down yes but their search engine really? thats one of the few legitimate part of the company they got to that position because their search engine is superior to everyone else. 

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2 hours ago, Sandro Linux said:

Google do have a pretty clear monopoly on the search and browser market

So use a different one?  How is it googles fault they have the best search engine? Use yahoo, bing, duck duck go, etc if you don't like them.  

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10 minutes ago, miagisan said:

So use a different one?  How is it googles fault they have the best search engine? Use yahoo, bing, duck duck go, etc if you don't like them.  

The lawsuit states the Google "has maintained its monopoly power through exclusionary practices that are harmful to competition."

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14 minutes ago, Random_Person1234 said:

The lawsuit states the Google "has maintained its monopoly power through exclusionary practices that are harmful to competition."

Ok such as? I want to see the complaints, because I am fairly certain MICROSOFT and their Bing search engine would have sued a long time ago and won if this was the case.  

 

This is purely political if they are going after their search engine.  

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28 minutes ago, miagisan said:

So use a different one?  How is it googles fault they have the best search engine? Use yahoo, bing, duck duck go, etc if you don't like them.  

I use DuckDuckGo and Firefox

My Laptop: A MacBook Air 

My Desktop: Don’t have one 

My Phone: An Honor 8s (although I don’t recommend it)

My Favourite OS: Linux

My Console: A Regular PS4

My Tablet: A Huawei Mediapad m5 

Spoiler

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Sandro Linux said:

I use DuckDuckGo and Firefox

So you have other options.  See, not a monopoly forced upon you by limited choice of service.  You can freely choose to use another search engine.  Just because the others aren't popular or work as well, is not googles fault.  

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