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AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT "Big Navi 21 XT/XL" Ostensibly Confirmed to Run @ 2.2-2.4GHz Clock Speeds + 255W (TGP) & 16GB GDDR6 (Updated)

Hope for them to actually start putting work in their driver's for us 3D/CAD developers.

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2 hours ago, porina said:

It wont, that misunderstanding comes from differences in how AMD and nvidia state power. See my previous link for a better description.

It might; at the end of the day, with difference in how each company measures TDP (and now, apparently, something called "TGP"), what they report and how they break it down, and the rumor nature of some of the information, we'll only know once reviews with a common methodology for all cards are out.

But I have to agree with his point about how we went from "AMD will melt the polar icecaps!" to "if Intel/Nvidia performs, who cares about power consumption, right?"

Mindshare would be mindshare, I guess,聽It's not something I will lose sleep over. And with supply being it is, it may not matter much, especially for those of us away from civilization 馃槢

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Pretty stoked about this release! This could be the reason for Nvidia's aggressive marketing and pricing!

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1 minute ago, DoctorNick said:

Pretty stocked about this release! This could be the reason for Nvidia's aggressive marketing and pricing!

We'll know in 8 days.

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1 minute ago, Deli said:

We'll know in 8 days.

Correct. Might be a good time to stock up, so to say.

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What aggressive pricing?聽

It's easy to tell you I'm selling you stuff for really cheap... EXCEPT IT ISN'T AVAILABLE FOR YOU SORRY ABOUT THAT!聽

It's just a scam at this point...聽

(and no, I'm not really salty, I'm not interested in low vram cards... So I'm waiting for refresh)聽

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7 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

and your point? this could be on a 7nm+ node

See my comments below for my furthar thoughts in light of additional info. But yes it will be in 7nm+ AFAIK, the problem is the 5700XT was on 7m, 7nm+ is not that big a power usage improvement over 7nm to allow for that kind of bump in both frequency and CU count whilst keeping the power usage so low.

5 hours ago, porina said:

https://www.igorslab.de/en/amd-radeon-rx-6000-the-actual-power-consumption-of-navi21xt-and-navi21xl-the-memory-and-the-availability-of-board-partner-card-exclusive/

Haven't seen above posted yet.

tldr:

Difference between AMD chip level power consumption and nvidia board level, if you account for this, they're same ball park

Sapphire, Asus, limited cards mid-November. Other companies, end November.

PCB design similar to old navi, implies 8x 2GB chips, not 16x 1GB, don't need major board redesign.

Thanks for the info. I still have my doubts about the frequency though.聽

Where talking twice the CU's of he 5700XT at 30% more frequency, (which will produce more than a 30% increase in power consumption as power use allways scales faster than frequency), on an at best claimed 30% power usage increase. Even with the 7nm+ efficiency gains i'd expect AMD to be very hard pressed to squeeze the double CU count in at a mere 30% power usage spike. Squeezing in any kind of frequency uptick as well just sounds completely bogus.

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2 hours ago, Deli said:

We'll know in 8 days.

Pretty sure Nvidias knows very well what is coming which is why they went so aggressive. They for sure have better sources than the public

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5 hours ago, BlackManINC said:

Meh, its all rumors until confirmed by AMD independent reviewers. I'm tired of rumors, its time we start getting some real news.聽

fixed.

Judge the product by its聽own merits,聽not by the Company that created it.

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21 minutes ago, CarlBar said:

Where talking twice the CU's of he 5700XT at 30% more frequency, (which will produce more than a 30% increase in power consumption as power use allways scales faster than frequency), on an at best claimed 30% power usage increase. Even with the 7nm+ efficiency gains i'd expect AMD to be very hard pressed to squeeze the double CU count in at a mere 30% power usage spike. Squeezing in any kind of frequency uptick as well just sounds completely bogus.

Speculation elsewhere that the highest boost clocks might only be seen in lighter workloads. Highest boost clocks can be hard to reach. Look at CPUs for parallel, single core boost sounds great, but all cores loaded, you're way down.

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6 minutes ago, Teddy07 said:

Pretty sure Nvidias knows very well what is comming which is why they went so aggressive. They for sure have better sources than the public

I feel the same way. Given the price gap between 3080 and 3090 is so big. If Jensen wants, he can easily sell 3080 at $1000. Still will sell like hot cakes.

The reason why they are so restrained in term of price. A very high possibility will be the new AMD GPUs are going to be very competitive.

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2 hours ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

But I have to agree with his point about how we went from "AMD will melt the polar icecaps!" to "if Intel/Nvidia performs, who cares about power consumption, right?"

See this post I made about AMD's GPUs before. The same applies to all brands:

On 6/30/2018 at 1:22 PM, LAwLz said:

Not only that, but it's kind of ignoring why Vega's power consumption is bad.

If Vega had higher performance than the 1080 Ti, then the power consumption wouldn't big as big of a deal. When you're using a lot of power, and the result is mediocre performance, it is worth pointing out. In the case of the monitor, there isn't really anything even close to competing in terms of performance. Does it use a lot of power? Absolutely, but nothing else delivers the performance of the Swift monitor at a lower power draw.

(Pulling numbers out of my ass to make a point)

Imagine 3 cards.

1) Draws 100 watts and gives you 100 FPS.

2) Draws 200 watts and gives you 100 FPS.

3) Draws 200 watts and gives you 300 FPS.

Even though card 2 and 3 draws the same amount of power, card 2 will be the one getting the most shit for the power draw. Why? Because card 3 brings higher performance with the higher power draw. The reason why people would question card 2 and not 3 is because they will think the power draw doesn't justify the result. It's using more power do to the same work, as the competing product.

Personally, I don't think power draw is THAT important (even for GPUs). But when one manufacture does more with less, you can't really brush it off as completely irrelevant.

Drawbacks should be justified, not dismissed.

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3 hours ago, Teddy07 said:

Pretty sure Nvidias knows very well what is coming which is why they went so aggressive. They for sure have better sources than the public

Aggressive with what? Non existing vaporware graphic cards? Only place I've even seen them was in reviews. And that's it.

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AMD's GPU division has disappointed me one to many times. I will believe it when I see it

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AMD's GPU division has disappointed me one to many times. I will believe it when I see it

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If it鈥檚 close to the 3080 performance wise, costs under $700 I鈥檒l be happy, the card can consume 400 watts idgaf. I want a competitive card from amd with stable聽drivers

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8 hours ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

I want a competitive card from amd

amd: alright coming right u-

8 hours ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

with stable聽drivers

amd: :/

really hoping they defy all odds and dont suck for once. XFX and sapphire's flagships are always so god damn sexy and ampere cards look pretty eh across the board. i mean ffs why would i want tire tracks on my 750 dollar card (tuf)? were they ran over with genuine vegan oxygen-free tires?

hell, even the reference design for amd looks really nice this time around, very similar to the turing founders cards which were also clean looking. aint no room for clown lips and wildly uninspired rgb bricks on such expensive cards

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Isn't the real problem still drivers?聽

I just want 1080p 60fps *stable* and so far the 2 amd cards I recently tested could not provide that (reviews and such are highly misleading as the usually talk about *average* framerates and or use 1000$ cpus...)聽

And every time I was told "well, *that* game is unfortunately optimized for Nvidia"聽

Which if we're honest means 2 things:

A) that's pretty much nearly all games that are 'optimized' for Nvidia and聽

B) AMD drivers just aren't good (which includes stuff like recording which can easily cost you 20 fps just like that whereas Nvidia recording cost about 2-3 fps)聽

So what I'm asking here is what on gods green earth makes you think AMD will ever be able to provide functional, competitive drivers instead of trying to brute force everything (and in my opinion fail at doing that)?聽

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@Mark Kaine

1 can hope amd gets the drivers together. I loved the 5700xt when it worked right, but that was a big if and forced me to nvidia.聽

If they can make a card 50% faster then the 5700xt for $500 or under they鈥檒l be ok. Should be able to compete with the Rtx 3070. For $500 tho I鈥檒l buy a rtx 3070 instead. Luckily we don鈥檛 have long to go and at the end of the day I鈥檒l buy the 3070 or whatever equal amd card in that price range.聽

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