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MBR or GPT for new 860 EVO formatting?

GamerBlake

Hey guys I just got a 2TB 860 EVO SSD and I just installed it but when I went to format it I got this message.

 

Which one should I pick? 🤔 

 

Thanks!

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U should use GPT.

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Just now, Jimkirk363 said:

U should use GPT.

Are you 100% sure? Because it does note that “The GPT partition style is not recognized by all previous versions of Windows.” So it sounds like Windows is recommending not to use that one. But if you’re 100% sure I will.

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3 minutes ago, GamerBlake said:

Are you 100% sure? Because it does note that “The GPT partition style is not recognized by all previous versions of Windows.” So it sounds like Windows is recommending not to use that one. But if you’re 100% sure I will.

Unless you specifically need to use MBR, you should always use GPT. MBR at this point is obsolete in any system that's running UEFI and a semi-recent OS, which is basically everything at this point. 

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4 minutes ago, GamerBlake said:

Are you 100% sure? Because it does note that “The GPT partition style is not recognized by all previous versions of Windows.” So it sounds like Windows is recommending not to use that one. But if you’re 100% sure I will.

Use gpt unless you hvae a reason to. It has more features aswell, like >4 patitions, and dual tables incase something happens to one of them.

 

By old versions of windows, they mean windows 2000 or ME. 7, vista, xp and 8.1 will all read that disk fine.

 

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4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Use gpt unless you hvae a reason to. It has more features aswell, like >4 patitions, and dual tables incase something happens to one of them.

 

By old versions of windows, they mean windows 2000 or ME. 7, vista, xp and 8.1 will all read that disk fine.

 

Ohh ok thanks! I just clicked GPT so hopefully everything goes smooth. 🤞 

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5 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

Unless you specifically need to use MBR, you should always use GPT. MBR at this point is obsolete in any system that's running UEFI and a semi-recent OS, which is basically everything at this point. 

Ah ok thanks so when in doubt use GPT?

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3 minutes ago, GamerBlake said:

Ah ok thanks so when in doubt use GPT?

Yes. GPT is better than MBR in every measurable way. 

 

The only time you'd need to use MBR is when you require some form of legacy support such as a system that only supports BIOS and not UEFI. Even then, you'd only need MBR for the boot drive, data drives could still be GPT and work no issue. To give you an idea how out of date MBR is, it doesn't even support drives over 2TB in size as it cannot address it. MBR is basically entirely obsolete now with same pretty rare exceptions.

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2 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

Yes. GPT is better than MBR in every measurable way. 

 

The only time you'd need to use MBR is when you require some form of legacy support such as a system that only supports BIOS and not UEFI. Even then, you'd only need MBR for the boot drive, data drives could still be GPT and work no issue. To give you an idea how out of date MBR is, it doesn't even support drives over 2TB in size as it cannot address it. MBR is basically entirely obsolete now with same pretty rare exceptions.

Ahhh I didn’t know all that. So what’s the point of Windows even asking this question? Why not just format all drives as GPT and then require people who need MBR to do it a different way so people don’t get confused and pick MBR if they don’t know better and have noone to ask.

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5 minutes ago, GamerBlake said:

Ahhh I didn’t know all that. So what’s the point of Windows even asking this question? Why not just format all drives as GPT and then require people who need MBR to do it a different way so people don’t get confused and pick MBR if they don’t know better and have noone to ask.

It asks you when you initialise the disk. It should default to GPT IIRC.

 

I'd assume because the majority of people who are doing stuff in disk management are assumed to know what it means, or if someone doesn't know, they can ask. There's a bunch of initial setup stuff that Microsoft assumes a certain level of knowledge for, likely because the tools are mostly used by powerusers or IT professionals. It can be annoying on the server side of things as you have to read through entire documentation from MS in order to get to one simple command/section. 

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21 hours ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

It asks you when you initialise the disk. It should default to GPT IIRC.

 

I'd assume because the majority of people who are doing stuff in disk management are assumed to know what it means, or if someone doesn't know, they can ask. There's a bunch of initial setup stuff that Microsoft assumes a certain level of knowledge for, likely because the tools are mostly used by powerusers or IT professionals. It can be annoying on the server side of things as you have to read through entire documentation from MS in order to get to one simple command/section. 

 I understand they’re assuming a certain level of tech knowledge, but I mean I’m pretty tech oriented (enough to build my own PC at least 🤷🏻‍♂️ ) but I still didn’t know this so I can only imagine a really technically illiterate person being told they should speed up their computer for cheap by replacing their HDD with an SSD only to go purchase and install it and be stuck.

 

Like maybe they could put (recommended for most users) next to GPT or something? I imagine someone who needs MBR would know they weren’t going to use GPT anyway.

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