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zen 3 vs zen 2 ryzen cpu choosing

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  1. 1. Which cpu should i go for?

    • Ryzen 7 3700x 8 cores Zen 2
    • Ryzen 5 5600x 6 core Zen 3


hi guys! im building a pc this novemeber as my first build and im stuck in  sticky situation to choose a cpu

firstly i currently am thinking of getting a ryzen 7 3700x becvause i want to stream and game with smoothness

but as you know there is the new 5800x which is 100 aud more

is it really worth it? is a newer generation 6 core 5600x zen 3 better than a 8 core 3700x zen 2 ? or should i stick with zen 2 8 cores for the bang for the buck?

 

 

thanks guys! any suggestions would be helpful!

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I don't have experience with streaming, but this might be a situation where more cores might be worth it over faster cores.

 

Whichever CPU you go for, assuming you have a new enough mobo, you can still replace the CPU if your demands are greater in future.

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5600X, and stream using your GPU (Nvidia's hardware encoder was already the way to go with Turing, hopefully AMD's will be at least on par with that with RDNA2).

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4 minutes ago, porina said:

I don't have experience with streaming, but this might be a situation where more cores might be worth it over faster cores.

 

Whichever CPU you go for, assuming you have a new enough mobo, you can still replace the CPU if your demands are greater in future.

well put, 80 percent of me is sticking with the 3700x 

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2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

5600X, and stream using your GPU (Nvidia's hardware encoder was already the way to go with Turing, hopefully AMD's will be at least on par with that with RDNA2).

do you think the faster cores and speed of the zen 3 ryzen 5 would be worth it with less cores?

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Just now, FEAR_malik said:

do you think the faster cores and speed of the zen 3 ryzen 5 would be worth it with less cores?

Since, from what I understand, this will be purely for gaming, I'd say so.

What GPU do you plan on getting for this system?

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1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

Since, from what I understand, this will be purely for gaming, I'd say so.

What GPU do you plan on getting for this system?

well, im also stuck on whether i should go full AMD with radeon big navi 6000 series or maybe even a nvidia 3070 

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Are you planning to get an Nvidia GPU?  Because if so, then just get a 3600 and use the Nvenc chip for streaming.  There's not much point to software encoding unless you're getting an AMD GPU, since they have a horrible hardware encoder.

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1 minute ago, FEAR_malik said:

well, im also stuck on whether i should go full AMD with radeon big navi 6000 series or maybe even a nvidia 3070 

Well by the time Zen 3 is out, reviews on the 3070 should already be out (since it launches about a week before Zen 3 iirc?).

We don't know anything about RDNA2 though, specifically when it'll launch. AMD did say a while back that their new GPUs will be available before the next-gen consoles, so if that's to be believed... maybe RDNA2 is coming out around the same time as Zen 3? 

 

2 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

There's not much point to software encoding unless you're getting an AMD GPU, since they have a horrible hardware encoder.

Eh, it's gotten a lot better with Navi from what I've heard (and after months of driver updates, of course). 

NVENC is still better, but it's not even close to being as bad as VCE on Polaris and Vega.

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Question for those with actual experience of streaming: if you use GPU encoding, is there still some overhead in the streaming process that would benefit from more cores? That was my assumption. My thinking was that more cores may offer the "smoother" experience, even if not the highest possible fps should you be CPU bound. I assume people don't stream faster than 60fps anyway, so having higher average fps potential isn't beneficial? 

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8 minutes ago, porina said:

I assume people don't stream faster than 60fps anyway, so having higher average fps potential isn't beneficial? 

Even if not for the viewers, it is beneficial on the streamer's/player's end, primarily if they're playing competitively.

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22 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Eh, it's gotten a lot better with Navi from what I've heard (and after months of driver updates, of course). 

NVENC is still better, but it's not even close to being as bad as VCE on Polaris and Vega.

The crashes have gotten better, but the support has gotten worse. AMD completely abandoned the OBS plugin.

13 minutes ago, porina said:

Question for those with actual experience of streaming: if you use GPU encoding, is there still some overhead in the streaming process that would benefit from more cores? That was my assumption. My thinking was that more cores may offer the "smoother" experience, even if not the highest possible fps should you be CPU bound. I assume people don't stream faster than 60fps anyway, so having higher average fps potential isn't beneficial? 

To a point, yes.  If you're using things like stream animations (such as a pop-up when someone subscribes), that still takes up some CPU power.  It's pretty small though.  If you are running your CPU at full load an animation is going to screw up your stream, but that's really only going to happen if you're using a 4C/4T CPU.

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