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Nvidia Will Temporarily Stop Selling 3080/3090's on Their Online Store

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Nvidia will temporarily stop selling 3080/3090 FE's on their online store. They will still be sold in the US on Best Buy.

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We have heard your feedback regarding the NVIDIA online store and are working to improve the experience.

In the meantime, we will be selling our GeForce RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 Founders Edition through other partners. In the US, you can shop for Founders Edition at Best Buy - GeForce RTX 3080 and GeForce RTX 3090 . In Europe, we continue to review Founders Edition fulfillment options.

I guess they're at least doing something to combat the bots.

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/402196/nvidia-store-update-geforce-rtx-3080-and-rtx-3090-/

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Can someone explain more about the bots? How can bots buy anything to make out of stock? Since when can bots have creditcards and legit addresses?

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Just now, CTR640 said:

Can someone explain more about the bots? How can bots buy anything to make out of stock? Since when can bots have creditcards and legit addresses?

you put your credit card and address/addresses in the setup

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People can't scalp your product if you don't sell your products in the first place.

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1 minute ago, spartaman64 said:

best buy is the worst store so i hate this.

They honored my 5 year warranty on my tv and replaced it with a new one after 4 years. Said the replacement doesn't qualify for the 5 year warranty again. But the guy at the register didnt know that so I tacked on another 5 year warranty onto the replacement. :) . so im good with them lol

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It just dawned on me that the Nvidia forum post says that 3080/3090 FE's won't be available in Europe temporarily. Not even from a third party.

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1 hour ago, CTR640 said:

Can someone explain more about the bots? How can bots buy anything to make out of stock? Since when can bots have creditcards and legit addresses?

The "bots" here are automated tools that just do the equivalent of clicking the "buy" button for you -- its still real payment information being used. The reason bots are used is because they can react to an item going up for sale or going back in stock almost instantly, and certainly much faster than a human could.

 

In some cases, these bots simply emulate the mouse and keyboard input, but in many cases you can actually bypass an online storefront's GUI entirely and directly send a network request that would have been generated if a buy button was clicked -- bypassing a lot of code and potentially buying an item before it even is listed.

 

In either case, the bot can sometimes complete dozens of purchases before you have even refreshed your webpage.

 

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Personally, I wouldn't mind, except that these bots are used to get items in very high demand to then turn around and re-sell them at a massive markup. It deprives actual individual customers from buying an item at MSRP, and for huge market segments of limited stock items like designer sneakers or concert tickets, these bots are buying up the entire supply -- meaning the only way a true customer can get the product is from these "scalpers".

 

These bots are essentially allowing a middleman to insert themselves between you and the merchant, extracting extra money without contributing anything in return.

 

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There are two ways to fix it: increase supply, or make botting ineffective.

 

The first is the best and most foolproof option because it is solving the underlying economics. If enough product is available, then people can ignore the re-sold items and the botters are stuck with inventory they cannot profit on. Eventually, the lack of income forces botters out of the market. Of course, increasing supply is not an instantaneous option. Thus, in the meantime, there is option 2:

 

Botting can be made much harder, to the point of being effectively impossible. The problem is that for every bot you can turn away, a merchant must make it more tedious to buy the item. Its therefore a tradeoff of making it reasonably easy enough to purchase an item, but not so easy that anyone with decent technical knowledge can just code up a bot for your site in an afternoon.

 

The tools used to deter botting include CAPTCHAs, order limits, API obfuscation or tokenizing (to force going through the site itself), and ID verification. There can also be more complex behavior analysis, where the website captures things like mouse movements right before and after a purchase is made and then uses some heuristic to decide if the purchase was made by a human. All of these options are actually available as off-the-shelf tools, though large merchants develop their own to make it harder for a potential bot to discover the "right" behavior.

 

Nvidia is likely pausing their storefront to implement one or two of these options.

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6 hours ago, Qub3d said:

There are two ways to fix it: increase supply, or make botting ineffective.

There are three ways - you forgot about adjusting the price.

 

Although there are indeed two: making bots ineffective will only make scalping less efficient, but it doesn't remove it. As long as you try to enforce a price for which there is excess demand, there will be scalping.

The only way to control a price on Nvidia's side is to adjust supply to the point were the market equilibrium price matches the target price. If they can't / don't actually want to alter supply, then the price will be entirely determined by demand, and all they are doing is allocating the inevitable rents generated by "MSRP" sales.

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Are AMD GPU worth buying...I have 2070rtx but should i in future give Amd a try

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7 hours ago, Random_Person1234 said:

It just dawned on me that the Nvidia forum post says that 3080/3090 FE's won't be available in Europe temporarily. Not even from a third party.

That's because it never was, it was Nvidia online store only for Europe so they have to find someone to do it.

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2 minutes ago, leadeater said:

That's because it never was, it was Nvidia online store only for Europe so they have to find someone to do it.

Same thing in the U.S. except that they’re now selling them through Best Buy. By saying “not even from a third party” I meant that Nvidia currently doesn’t have a  seller in Europe that will replace them while they fix their store.

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14 minutes ago, KingRfg said:

Are AMD GPU worth buying...I have 2070rtx but should i in future give Amd a try

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1 minute ago, Random_Person1234 said:

Depends on how good Big Navi is and if it has driver issues like before. 

Alright ill look to that mate ...Thx

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what stopping? they still haven't released the damn card worldwide at all, it's not even released in India its like 11th of Oct, the card released last month 16th

in India it still shows this fucking thing 

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even MSI India is scalping their own cards on Amazon India 

https://www.amazon.in/MSI-GeForce-3080-10G-320-bit/dp/B08HM4V2DH/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2IZ0AW0G85LO3&dchild=1&keywords=rtx+3080&qid=1602405262&sprefix=rtx+30%2Caps%2C297&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.in/MSI-GeForce-3080-3X-10G/dp/B08HM4M621/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IZ0AW0G85LO3&dchild=1&keywords=rtx+3080&qid=1602405262&sprefix=rtx+30%2Caps%2C297&sr=8-1

 

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2 minutes ago, Rohith_Kumar_Sp said:

what stopping? they still haven't released the damn card worldwide at all, it's not even released in India its like 11th of Oct, the card released last month 16th

in India it still shows this fucking thing 

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18 minutes ago, Morgan Everett said:

They were never for sale in Britain, as far as I'm concerned. 

Overclockers, ebuyer and scan all had a few if I remember correctly.

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