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I was looking at upgrading my PC with a Ryzen 7 5800x and a B550 Motherboard but.. I'm not impressed with AMD lately due to the Intel level of price where I can just buy an Intel CPU and overclock it.

 

Should I get the Ryzen 7 5800x or an Intel alternative? If so, which one? (Not a workstation)

"I don't know what your problem is, but it seems like you don't like me. Besides, I can't put you in any mood - you put yourself into a 'mood' when you take the little things personally."

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Wait until the independent reviews are out and then decide. Don't buy a new CPU or make a decision just on the marketing of AMD.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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Just now, Stahlmann said:

Wait until the independent reviews are out and then decide. Don't buy a new CPU or make a decision just on the marketing of AMD.

Yeah was planning on waiting until like December before I purchase.

"I don't know what your problem is, but it seems like you don't like me. Besides, I can't put you in any mood - you put yourself into a 'mood' when you take the little things personally."

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17 minutes ago, Krazes said:

I'm not impressed with AMD lately due to the Intel level of price where I can just buy an Intel CPU and overclock it.

Zen 3 will be much better than any intel cpu. that is why the price is also higher. atleast that is what AMD said, im impressed about the Zen 3 performance

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Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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14 minutes ago, Krazes said:

I was looking at upgrading my PC with a Ryzen 7 5800x and a B550 Motherboard but.. I'm not impressed with AMD lately due to the Intel level of price where I can just buy an Intel CPU and overclock it.

 

Should I get the Ryzen 7 5800x or an Intel alternative? If so, which one? (Not a workstation)

Looking at the prices of the 3 CPUs announced, the 5800x is the worst-priced. 5900x is the best bang for buck if you are looking at price/performance or price/core number. 

It's never a good idea to buy tech at launch. Either intel is gonna cut prices to remain competitive or Ryzen 5000 will drop a bit after launch or both.

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30 minutes ago, Krazes said:

Intel level of price where I can just buy an Intel CPU and overclock it.

If the numbers are only remotely true, that won't be the case. You won't squeeze another 15% only with standard ocs out of intel cpus

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12 minutes ago, Vals89 said:

Looking at the prices of the 3 CPUs announced, the 5800x is the worst-priced. 5900x is the best bang for buck if you are looking at price/performance or price/core number. 

It's never a good idea to buy tech at launch. Either intel is gonna cut prices to remain competitive or Ryzen 5000 will drop a bit after launch or both.

Just think 5900x would be rather overkill..

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Thanks lads will stay with Ryzen, currently got AMD Ryzen 5 1600 so it needs an upgrade. Don't wanna get Ryzen 9 though it's rather overkill imo

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2 minutes ago, Krazes said:

Thanks lads will stay with Ryzen, currently got AMD Ryzen 5 1600 so it needs an upgrade. Don't wanna get Ryzen 9 though it's rather overkill imo

Depends on what you are using your PC for and how an upgrade to Zen3 would fit with the rest of your components. Going from Ryzen 5 1600 to even a 5600x would be a massive upgrade both for gaming and productivity. But it's best to wait and see if AMD is going to release non-X CPUs or if intel is going to drop prices for their i7 and i9s. 

Even though 5000 series looks enticing, I'm not considering upgrading my 3600 any time soon, just because even now I don't utilize it fully. So if your 1600 serves you well, it's best to just save your money until a great deal comes up

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