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Upgrading from i7 4930K to i5 9400F. Worth it?

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Hi,

There is someone who is interested in purchasing my computer, and with that money I can purchase a new system. 

 

My pc specs: 

i7 4930K 

ADATA XPG DDR3 4GBx2 2133Mhz

Corsair H105 Water Cooler

ASUS P9X79

Sapphire R9 280X Dual X

 

And I want to buy these parts: 

CPU: i5 9400F Tray

CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 7 Pro

Motherboard: Gigabyte B365M HD3

RAM: Crucial 16GB 3200Mhz CL16 Ballistix Sport LT White 

GPU: a used GTX 1060 6GB / RX 580 8GB

 

The upgrade is without adding money, maybe $ 60 ~ 70 extra. 

Is it worth it? 

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nope not at all

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30 minutes ago, Xolin said:

Hi,

There is someone who is interested in purchasing my computer, and with that money I can purchase a new system. 

 

My pc specs: 

i7 4930K 

ADATA XPG DDR3 4GBx2 2133Mhz

Corsair H105 Water Cooler

ASUS P9X79

Sapphire R9 280X Dual X

 

And I want to buy these parts: 

CPU: i5 9400F Tray

CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 7 Pro

Motherboard: Gigabyte B365M HD3

RAM: Crucial 16GB 3200Mhz CL16 Ballistix Sport LT White 

GPU: a used GTX 1060 6GB / RX 580 8GB

 

The upgrade is without adding money, maybe $ 60 ~ 70 extra. 

Is it worth it? 

How much are they buying your system for?

 

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Only if you can match the thread count would this be worth while. 

 

So no.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Xolin said:

Hi,

There is someone who is interested in purchasing my computer, and with that money I can purchase a new system. 

 

My pc specs: 

i7 4930K 

ADATA XPG DDR3 4GBx2 2133Mhz

Corsair H105 Water Cooler

ASUS P9X79

Sapphire R9 280X Dual X

 

And I want to buy these parts: 

CPU: i5 9400F Tray

CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 7 Pro

Motherboard: Gigabyte B365M HD3

RAM: Crucial 16GB 3200Mhz CL16 Ballistix Sport LT White 

GPU: a used GTX 1060 6GB / RX 580 8GB

 

The upgrade is without adding money, maybe $ 60 ~ 70 extra. 

Is it worth it? 

How much money are you getting back for your system? 

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The only worthwhile upgrade there is the GPU. Instead of upgrading everything, just get the best GPU you can afford and upgrade the rest later on when it's worthwhile.

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depends on the purpose of the system

only an upgrade if for gaming

 

but then youre better off just upgrading your current system with a better GPU

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1 hour ago, EliteTM said:

How much are they buying your system for?

 

 

1 hour ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Only if you can match the thread count would this be worth while. 

 

So no.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

How much money are you getting back for your system? 

 

44 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

The only worthwhile upgrade there is the GPU. Instead of upgrading everything, just get the best GPU you can afford and upgrade the rest later on when it's worthwhile.

 

I’m getting about 500$ for this system, and it’s enough for a new system (without PSU and SSDs that I already have).  

 

I can buy another new system: 

i5 10400F

Freezer 7 Pro

Gigabyte B460M Gaming HD

Crucial 16GB 3200Mhz CL16 Ballistix Sport LT White 
A used GTX 1060 6GB / RX 580 8GB

 

Or 

Ryzen 7 2700 

Freezer 7 Pro

Gigabyte B450M DS3H

Crucial 16GB 3200Mhz CL16 Ballistix Sport LT White 
A used GTX 1060 6GB / RX 580 8GB


Or

Ryzen 5 3400G

Freezer 7 Pro

Gigabyte A520M DS3H

Crucial 16GB 3200Mhz CL16 Ballistix Sport LT White 
A used GTX 1060 6GB / RX 580 8GB

 

Is it worth it? 
I think one of the reasons I should make the upgrade is warranty. New parts have a warranty, and a warranty will protect me from problems with these parts.

 

What do you think?

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3 minutes ago, Xolin said:

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $160.00
Motherboard Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $72.98 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL EVO SPEAR Phantom Gaming 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $54.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB MECH OC Video Card $259.99 @ B&H
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $567.96
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $547.96
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-09 02:11 EDT-0400  

 

CPU isn't a huge upgrade, but the GPU is.

 

You really wanna buy a used RX 580/GTX 1060? Despite them being the most popular mining cards of all time? I mean, it's your funeral, but I wouldn't recommend it.

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On 10/9/2020 at 9:13 AM, Aereldor said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $160.00
Motherboard Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $72.98 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL EVO SPEAR Phantom Gaming 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $54.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB MECH OC Video Card $259.99 @ B&H
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $567.96
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $547.96
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-09 02:11 EDT-0400  

 

CPU isn't a huge upgrade, but the GPU is.

 

You really wanna buy a used RX 580/GTX 1060? Despite them being the most popular mining cards of all time? I mean, it's your funeral, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Thank you, but I’m thinking of going with the Ryzen 7 2700 because it’s an 8C/16T chip. 4930K / 3600 both are 6C/12T. I think the extra cores/threads will make the CPU stay relevant for a longer time and that will make the upgrade more significant. 

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3 hours ago, Xolin said:

Thank you, but I’m thinking of going with the Ryzen 7 2700 because it’s an 8C/16T chip. 4930K / 3600 both are 6C/12T. I think the extra cores/threads will make the CPU stay relevant for a longer time and that will make the upgrade more significant. 

The 3600 is faster than the 2700, but do whatever makes you happy

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18 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

The 3600 is faster than the 2700, but do whatever makes you happy

In gaming it is, but with the GPU he's using there won't be much of a difference.

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15 minutes ago, Fatih19 said:

In gaming it is, but with the GPU he's using there won't be much of a difference.

No, it's faster overall, if only slightly. Productivity benchmarks for Cinebench, Premiere, and Handbrake at the beginning of this vid-

 

 

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1 hour ago, Aereldor said:

The 3600 is faster than the 2700, but do whatever makes you happy in the future


I don’t want to upgrade my CPU for at least 4-5 years. I want to buy the CPU that is more future-proof. 
 

Currently I’m running an i7 4930K, and I think the only reason that it is still (somehow) relevant is the fact that it has 2 extra cores. 
 

Is it possible to overclock the R7 2700?

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37 minutes ago, Xolin said:


I don’t want to upgrade my CPU for at least 4-5 years. I want to buy the CPU that is more future-proof. 
 

Currently I’m running an i7 4930K, and I think the only reason that it is still (somehow) relevant is the fact that it has 2 extra cores. 
 

Is it possible to overclock the R7 2700?

You've just got it in in your head that 8 cores is better than 6. By all means get an FX 8100, I guess it won't matter because more cores is better, even though its 8 cores together are slower than an Athlon 3000G's 2 cores.

 

The Ryzen 5 3600 is faster even in terms of multi core performance. Its 6 cores are as fast or slightly faster than the 2700's 8. Not per core, altogether. 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

You've just got it in in your head that 8 cores is better than 6. By all means get an FX 8100, I guess it won't matter because more cores is better, even though its 8 cores together are slower than an Athlon 3000G's 2 cores.

 

The Ryzen 5 3600 is faster even in terms of multi core performance. Its 6 cores are as fast or slightly faster than the 2700's 8. Not per core, altogether. 

 

 

 

 

Ok, I got it. 
And Is the 3600 faster than the 10400F?

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3 minutes ago, Xolin said:

Ok, I got it. 
And Is the 3600 faster than the 10400F?

Look up benchmarks yourself, it depends on the application.

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Instructions per clock matter. For example, an Intel desktop CPU from 6 years ago with 4 cores and 8 threads, at 3.0Ghz, will behave much worse than a current gen Intel desktop CPU with the same 4c/8t at 3.0Ghz. Every generation improves efficiency of a CPU core, even if by a little.

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