Zen 3 announcement discussion

[nick name]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

the 8 core maybe, but the 6 core and 12 core models both allow somewhat defective die (only 6 core per CCX needed)

Don't forget that the 3900X has one good CCX and one not-so-good CCX.  

[mahyar]

2 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

nah the prices are too high for a rip intel.

they have to something amd also conquered gaming so i have some hope in alder lake 

[SupaKomputa]

2 minutes ago, nick name said:

From AMD on Reddit:

 

 

When would motherboard partners announce the support (usually)?

[germgoatz]

2 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

nah the prices are too high for a rip intel.

 

3 minutes ago, germgoatz said:

a lot of people choose intel because of higher gaming performace and dont take pricing into consideration at all

 

[mahyar]

Just now, germgoatz said:

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well they lost that market too 

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, nick name said:

Don't forget that the 3900X has one good CCX and one not-so-good CCX.  

not two painful-to-throw-away CCX?

[hollyh88]

6 minutes ago, mahyar said:

they have to something amd also conquered gaming so i have some hope in alder lake 

they didnt even up the core count. so even more price increases is just insane. 300 for a 5600x? 450 bucks for an 8 core? what the fuck. thats intel style pricing lol

[SupaKomputa]

 

DOA Tiger Lake!

Source anandtech

[mahyar]

Just now, hollyh88 said:

they didnt even up the core count. so even more price increases is just insane. 300 for a 5600x? 450 bucks for an 8 core? what the fuck. thats intel style pricing lol

5900x is a good competitor to 10900k 

[mahyar]

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

 

DOA Tiger Lake!

Source anandtech

this why i said i have some hope in alder lake

[drumn_bass]

So looks like there will not be a 5700x, right? I guess it makes sense since most reviews shower that the difference between 3700x and 3800x was only about 2-3% in performance, so if they decided to simplify and just keep one successor, the one with a higher number just looks better on the store shelf. 5800x.

[SupaKomputa]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

not two painful-to-throw-away CCX?

Problem with this, there might not be enough low end stuff, if the yield is good.

[SupaKomputa]

4 minutes ago, mahyar said:

this why i said i have some hope in alder lake

Raja koduri : why did i leave.

[mahyar]

4 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Problem with this, there might not be enough low end stuff, if the yield is good.

so they dont have plans to release lower end stuff if yields are good?

[mahyar]

1 minute ago, SupaKomputa said:

Raja koduri : why did i leave.

joking

[drumn_bass]

3 minutes ago, mahyar said:

so they don  t have plans to release lower end stuff if yields are good?

They will likely just keep selling 3000 series parts to the lower end market.

[wujoh]

Intel is madddd lool

[mahyar]

4 minutes ago, wujoh said:

Intel is madddd lool

well it was a bit disappointing 

[SupaKomputa]

11 minutes ago, mahyar said:

so they dont have plans to release lower end stuff if yields are good?

probably they wait until they could find some defected chips to bin. This could take a long time.

Such a waste to sell a healthy 8 cores and disable 4 just to sell them as Ryzen 3.

I think in the next 6 months we wont see any R3 lineup.

[Jurrunio]

23 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

they didnt even up the core count. so even more price increases is just insane. 300 for a 5600x? 450 bucks for an 8 core? what the fuck. thats intel style pricing lol

At least $550 for a 12 core is only a slight increase over the previous $500 12 core, credits to AMD

 

18 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Problem with this, there might not be enough low end stuff, if the yield is good.

Then why is the 8 core so bloody expensive? Would expect a small price gap in this case, it really doesnt make sense. There has to be a 5600 and 5700X coming soon

[hollyh88]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

At least $550 for a 12 core is only a slight increase over the previous $500 12 core, credits to AMD

 

yeah thats the only nice thing. 
i was planning on getting an upgrade (made a post in the cpu section). and was gonna go for the 5800x. but.. now i may as well get a 3800xt right? since its literally 100 bucks cheaper then the 5800x and at 1440p gaming would it really make a difference? 

 

heck ill even save money since i dont have to get a new mobo (didnt wanna one way bios brick my current one)

[SupaKomputa]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

At least $550 for a 12 core is only a slight increase over the previous $500 12 core, credits to AMD

 

Then why is the 8 core so bloody expensive? Would expect a small price gap in this case, it really doesnt make sense. There has to be a 5600 and 5700X coming soon

I think they won't have a problem selling underclocked 8 or 6 cored version.

With 8ccx there might be no 4 core part to sell in the near future.

[mahyar]

2 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

probably they wait until they could find some defected chips to bin. This could take a long time.

Such a waste to sell a healthy 8 cores and disable 4 just to sell them as Ryzen 3.

I think in the next 6 months we wont see any R3 lineup.

what about apus

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

I think they won't have a problem selling underclocked 8 or 6 cored version.

With 8ccx there might be no 4 core part to sell in the near future.

tbh if you're satisfied with 4 cores, just get a 3300x. It already has Zen 3's "all cores in one CCX" advantage and is cheap.

[SupaKomputa]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

tbh if you're satisfied with 4 cores, just get a 3300x. It already has Zen 3's "all cores in one CCX" advantage and is cheap.

True, i think they will go on selling older parts.